[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

If you read what your pastor wrote to me, and countless others in this forum, you might understand the anger i have. why dont you go and highlight some of the things said to me instead of just posting my words?

You see my friend, this anger and paranoia is a direct result of smoking the skunk. It's an illegal narcotic for a reason, praise Jesus.

Will you hold hands with me and ask God for help with your chemical dependancy? Wouldn't life be so much more enjoyable if you didn't have to sneak around alleys late at night to get your next fix? I've been there.

In Christ

[Bill R. Briscoe]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

If you read what your pastor wrote to me, and countless others in this forum, you might understand the anger i have. why dont you go and highlight some of the things said to me instead of just posting my words?

Because I know exactly where they are coming from? Their source material is laid out plainly before me and is very easy to follow. Take your biblical quote for example. When Christ said to love your brother, he meant your brother in Christ. I do love all of the True Christians™ on this forum, and would never think of hating them. That would go against God himself!

You on the other hand, seem to have a mishmash religion of hypocrisy and cherry-picked bible verses. Not to mention a profane obsession with drugs and anal sex. The Bible does not tell me to love you. The Bible commands me to judge you, and rebuke you.

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."

Galatians 4:6 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

Get right with Christ: Accept him wholly and unconditionally. Follow his every word, and allow him to enter you gently or aggressively, whichever he chooseth.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

From your pastor: Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!


1 John 4:20-21

If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother.

Oh my, are you the Pastor's brother? Obviously you're not his spiritual brother, we've seen that much. So I presume you're his biological brother.

Otherwise, I don't understand why you would have quoted a passage that pretty clearly only talks about brothers.

[jesseblachowski]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

You see my friend, this anger and paranoia is a direct result of smoking the skunk. It's an illegal narcotic for a reason, praise Jesus.

Will you hold hands with me and ask God for help with your chemical dependancy? Wouldn't life be so much more enjoyable if you didn't have to sneak around alleys late at night to get your next fix? I've been there.

Its a narcotic because the government says so. Alcohol is legal and ruins more lives than any other substance, therefore its legal and not a sin, right?

And i have no chemical dependencies, i quit drinking energy drinks which consumed more money was a stronger habit than any other substance on earth. Was it a sin for me to drink caffeine?

I use to smoke alot of pot in an alley too, that doesnt mean i do anymore. i quit because it became a habit.

When anything becomes a habit, its not good for you, that goes for eating fast food too often.

If i want to become closer to God, ill find a pastor who has a clear mind ulike you guys..

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Its a narcotic because the government says so.

No, its illegal because the government says so. Its a narcotic because of what the word narcotic means.

Have all those marijuana cigarettes affected your brain?

[jesseblachowski]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Get right with Christ: Accept him wholly and unconditionally. Follow his every word, and allow him to enter you gently or aggressively, whichever he chooseth.[/QUOTE]


Okay your right. Telling others their going to burn in hell, are obsessed with anal sex, and taking the bible out of context is exactly what Jesus would do. Because Jesus doesnt want others to be saved, he just wants christians to put down "unsaved" men instead of helping them be closer to God.

Im glad things are cleared up BUD

[jesseblachowski]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

No, its illegal because the government says so. Its a narcotic because of what the word narcotic means.

Have all those marijuana cigarettes affected your brain?

nar·cot·ic/närˈkätik/


Noun:A drug or other substance affecting mood or behavior and sold for nonmedical purposes, esp. an illegal one




So alcohol does not affect mood or behavior? Its sold for non medical purposes only!

The only thing that seperates alcohol and marijuana is the law BUD.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I suggest you find a better dictionary:

nar·cot·ic

   /nɑrˈkɒtɪk/ Show Spelled[nahr-kot-ik] Show IPA
noun 1. any of a class of substances that blunt the senses, as opium, morphine, belladonna, and alcohol, that in large quantities produce euphoria, stupor, or coma, that when used constantly can cause habituation or addiction, and that are used in medicine to relieve pain, cause sedation, and induce sleep.

2. anything that exercises a soothing or numbing effect or influence: Television is a narcotic for many people.


#mid1{border-top:solid 1px #E4E4E4;border-bottom:solid 1px #E4E4E4;padding-bottom:8px;padding-top:8px;}adjective 3. of or having the power to produce narcosis, as a drug.

4. pertaining to or of the nature of narcosis.

5. of or pertaining to narcotics or their use.

6. used by, or in the treatment of, narcotic addicts.

[Bill R. Briscoe]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Okay your right. Telling others their going to burn in hell, are obsessed with anal sex, and taking the bible out of context is exactly what Jesus would do. Because Jesus doesnt want others to be saved, he just wants christians to put down "unsaved" men instead of helping them be closer to God.

Informing you of the fact you are going to hell is not putting you down. It's informing you of the Truth®. I think this is a distinction you are failing to see. We are telling you to abandon your lifestyle and find Christ. If you are ashamed of your own lifestyle and see God's condemnation as "putting you down", maybe it's time for some self reflection, hmm?

Im glad things are cleared up BUD

If you are trying to dispel the claim that you are a dope-smoking mongrel, you might want to avoid using a well known pseudonym for the drug itself. Using a nickname is something friends do, and marijuana is no friend of mine! It's very telling of your perverse nature.

I'm sure you'll continue whining about your hurt feelings, so I'll end it here. I will pray you see the Light of Christ and start repenting immediately. May you find Glory in all that is God and his Word. I won't waste my breath any further.

Praise Him!

[jesseblachowski]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I suggest you find a better dictionary:

nar·cot·ic

   /nɑrˈkɒtɪk/ Show Spelled[nahr-kot-ik] Show IPA
noun 1. any of a class of substances that blunt the senses, as opium, morphine, belladonna, and alcohol, that in large quantities produce euphoria, stupor, or coma, that when used constantly can cause habituation or addiction, and that are used in medicine to relieve pain, cause sedation, and induce sleep.

2. anything that exercises a soothing or numbing effect or influence: Television is a narcotic for many people.


#mid1{border-top:solid 1px #E4E4E4;border-bottom:solid 1px #E4E4E4;padding-bottom:8px;padding-top:8px;}adjective 3. of or having the power to produce narcosis, as a drug.

4. pertaining to or of the nature of narcosis.

5. of or pertaining to narcotics or their use.

6. used by, or in the treatment of, narcotic addicts.

I didnt take the time to get the best results, you did though. So why are you so against marijuana, when this computer that your on right now has similar affects when it comes to obsession?
Obsession is the only thing i can find in the bible that is seen as unholy as far as drug usage goes. I want to know where it says that marijuana or similar drugs are sinful. Prove me wrong because i came to this site for help.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Prove me wrong because i came to this site for help.

The only help for you is to let the Holy Spirit into your crusty, sin-infested soul and accept Jesus as your LORD and Master before it's too late.

[jesseblachowski]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Informing you of the fact you are going to hell is not putting you down. It's informing you of the Truth*®. I think this is a distinction you are failing to see. We are telling you to abandon your lifestyle and find Christ. If you are ashamed of your own lifestyle and see God's condemnation as "putting you down", maybe it's time for some self reflection, hmm?



Telling me im going to hell, and that you and Jeseus will love to watch me burn for eternity is a nasty sin, your assuming that your a better christian.

And why is it that everytime you post "True Christian" and/or "Truth", you have a trademark symbol following it? Thats like saying these words have been paid for by advertisement. Does this site need advertisement?

Abandon your church and find one that better suits the truth.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

So alcohol does not affect mood or behavior? Its sold for non medical purposes only!


The only thing that seperates alcohol and marijuana is the law BUD.

Apples and oranges, my friend. Alcohol, when used correctly, simply relaxes a man at the end of a stressful day. I often have several cocktails in the evening before Bible Study and find that it helps me focus on my priorities and role within the Christian home. Mrs. Porter is usually quite quick to agree.

1 Corinthians 11:3 "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."

1 Corinthians 11:8 "For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man."

1 Corinthians 11:9 "Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man."

Marijuana, on the other hand, makes one a giggling idiot without any normal moral inhibitions. I've already shown you how it leads to homosexuality. One is tempted to try any number of perversions when under the influence of THC.

Just say no, my friend.

In Christ

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Telling me im going to hell, and that you and Jeseus will love to watch me burn for eternity is a nasty sin, your assuming that your a better christian.

Why is that a nasty sin? Where in the Bible do you find the command to ignore the Great Commission?

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I didnt take the time to get the best results, you did though. So why are you so against marijuana, when this computer that your on right now has similar affects when it comes to obsession?
Obsession is the only thing i can find in the bible that is seen as unholy as far as drug usage goes. I want to know where it says that marijuana or similar drugs are sinful. Prove me wrong because i came to this site for help.

Friend,
I can see that you are struggling through many issues here. You seem to be fighting the Will of God, hopelessly straining to find something, anything that you can use to prove that we are wrong. I assure you that you won't find any. As I once heard, sometimes it is best just to try to relax and enjoy it, otherwise you might get yourself roughed up. It won't hurt much if you don't fight it.

Moving on, I think we are headed down the wrong track here, discussing the Mary Jane. I think you'll find that we very much agree with the United States Federal Laws regarding the use of illegal narcotics. As we note that no drugs were mentioned in the Bible and certainly Jesus never partook, we have our proof that these drugs should not be used by anyone. In fact, there have been studies that prove that the ingesting of drugs can hinder one's relationship with the one True God! The Indians on their reservations smoke themselves silly and look where that got them. All they have to look forward to is the great casino in the sky (I am kidding, of course -- they aren't going up anywhere ).

Relax friend. Instead of trying to come here to "prove us wrong", why don't you take a breath and tell us a bit about yourself. What are your favorite Bible verses? What ministries are you involved in? We here at Landover are far better at discussing rational topics like religion and Jesus than we are in the intricacies of drug policy!

I will pray for you my friend. I feel that you are of great value to Jesus. In fact, you remind me of the story of Paul (then called Saul):

5And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

7And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

8And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.

It seems as though you are fighting against the Lord's Will just as Saul/Paul did so many years ago! But you find it difficult, as one would expect when you are struggling with the Almighty