[James Hutchins]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

1st - goth doesn't automaticly equal godless or satanic, there are plenty of goths who are christians, also buddhists, muslims, hindus, etc.

2nd - If god is real, and he created everything, didn't he create black aswell? get a clue you mormons.

1 Yes it does. You cannot be a 'Goth' and be a Christian. Goths eat babies you know.
2 Of course He did, He gave us nigras to serve. By the way, we are Baptists, not Mormons.

[Original Gothster]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

1st - goth doesn't automaticly equal godless or satanic, there are plenty of goths who are christians, also buddhists, muslims, hindus, etc.

2nd - If god is real, and he created everything, didn't he create black aswell? get a clue you mormons.

Goths are one thing, junkies. Goth and heroin go together like Judy Garland and pills. I don't know a single old school goth that isn't either chasing the dragon, trying to kick, or dead.

So live it up baby goth, while you can. Get used to waking up in your own vomit and piss!

[Serenity Moon]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Goths are one thing, junkies. Goth and heroin go together like Judy Garland and pills. I don't know a single old school goth that isn't either chasing the dragon, trying to kick, or dead.

So live it up baby goth, while you can. Get used to waking up in your own vomit and piss!

Original Gothster, this J. again. You are not a true goth if you believe that. I am a Perky Goth, and I am not a junkie. Don't talk crap about something you don't know about. I would consider learning more about the subculture. Your opinion about Goths is invalid.

[Gothfurry]

What is WRONG with you people?

Did the Bible not say to love your neighbor as yourself? WOW, you people are being very shallow and stereotypical. See, this is why most people hate us Christians, it is because of you shallow bastards who judge everyone before you actually sit down and talk to them. If you think goths are all Satan worshiping folks than you're wrong. I am goth yet I am christian, Lutheran to be exact. I do not cause self harm because I find that illogical, I don't mope around and complain. I AM A HAPPY PERSON. Yet I accept ALL of God's creations as they want to be, unlike you filthy creatures. Ever heard of self expression? If they want to worship a different spirit other than God THAN LET THEM, what harm is it doing to you? My cousins are a good example; Mormon. I HATE Mormonism. Yet that doesn't stop me from caring about my cousins even thought they disagree a lot with me because of my loose religious beliefs and what I choose to wear. I think you people should all just stop hating GOD'S CREATIONS because even you are not perfect. We ALL deserve to die, even you, even I.

[Original Gothster]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Original Gothster, this J. again. You are not a true goth if you believe that. I am a Perky Goth, and I am not a junkie. Don't talk crap about something you don't know about. I would consider learning more about the subculture. Your opinion about Goths is invalid.

I've been busy, but this little bitch deserves a reply. So, you're a "perky goth"?

WTF?

That makes exactly - 0 - sense. Are you also a white coon? Or maybe a straight faggot? Girly, I was a goth when you were sucking your mama's tits. So STFU about what I do and don't know. I'm trying to find my way to Jesus here, but you little wanna be Twiliight fans really piss me off.

[Original Gothster]

Re: What is WRONG with you people?

Did the Bible not say to love your neighbor as yourself? WOW, you people are being very shallow and stereotypical. See, this is why most people hate us Christians, it is because of you shallow bastards who judge everyone before you actually sit down and talk to them. If you think goths are all Satan worshiping folks than you're wrong. I am goth yet I am christian, Lutheran to be exact. I do not cause self harm because I find that illogical, I don't mope around and complain. I AM A HAPPY PERSON. Yet I accept ALL of God's creations as they want to be, unlike you filthy creatures. Ever heard of self expression? If they want to worship a different spirit other than God THAN LET THEM, what harm is it doing to you? My cousins are a good example; Mormon. I HATE Mormonism. Yet that doesn't stop me from caring about my cousins even thought they disagree a lot with me because of my loose religious beliefs and what I choose to wear. I think you people should all just stop hating GOD'S CREATIONS because even you are not perfect. We ALL deserve to die, even you, even I.

So let me get this straight. You're a happy, Lutheran goth. Can I ask you one question? What the hell does that even MEAN?

You believe in Jesus, and you're happy all the time. So . . . how exactly is that goth? Becuase you dye your hair and shop at Hot Topic? M'kay . . . Not!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: What is WRONG with you people?

Ever heard of self expression?

and what I choose to wear.

Can someone please explain to me how wearing black lace and looking like a prostitute (or a real bad pimp) is any sort of self expression?

Unless it's being suggested that something so superficial as clothing or hairstyle expresses anything beyond the most meagre stratum of "self" I really can't see the point of reading a thread and then posting stuff that's been posted over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in which case if that's considered originality then the differences between one slight detail in the goth uniform and all the others (indistinguishable for most people) probably is regarded as "self expression" — but it isn't.

Self expression is developing a new musical instrument (Ondes Martenot, say) creating a new genre of art (cubism) inventing the motor car etc., etc., and there is a huge list of such expressions of individual endeavour!



. . . . . . . . . . Maurice Martenot 1928. . . . . . . . . . . . . Pablo Piocasso 1910 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Karl & Bertha Benz 1886


Now if you look for pictures of those people, you'll see that they're wearing clothes (probably - not sure about Picasso though) but is that even slightly important? Absolutely not! That doesn't mean their expressions of individuality in engineering, music, art or anything else are edifying - many of them are not (the invention of LSD might come into the unedifying category even though it was an profound expression of individual creativity in chemistry: Hoffmann is not remembered for his hat but for his bicycle ride - what he did, not what he wore).

I CORINTHIANS 10
21 Yee cannot drinke the cup of the Lord, and the cup of deuils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lords Table, and of the table of deuils.
22 Doe we prouoke the Lord to iealousie? are we stronger then he?
23 All things are lawfull for me, but all things are not expedient: All things are lawfull for mee, but all things edifie not.
©1611

These are simple statements of fact. I am not offering opinion. God is quite clear about devils and the so-called "goth" culture adores them. Just check out any of their jewellery stalls: upside-down crosses, inverted pentagrams, gargoyles — although why they'd need to hang a pewter gargoyle around their neck when they've gone out of their way to look as much like one as they can is a mystery to me.

So yes, Gothfurry. I have heard self expression and it is not the only thing entirely absent from your demonic subculture
is it.

No. It is not.

[Gothfurry]

Re: What is WRONG with you people?

So let me get this straight. You're a happy, Lutheran goth. Can I ask you one question? What the hell does that even MEAN?

You believe in Jesus, and you're happy all the time. So . . . how exactly is that goth? Becuase you dye your hair and shop at Hot Topic? M'kay . . . Not!

Because I enjoy heavy metal, blood, horror and am fascinated with unholy dealings. I am constantly writing unholy stories such as seraphs becoming blood thirsty vampires and horror and sorrow. I also have a mild condition of schizophrenia and most of those characters are violent and unforgiving heathen bastards. , I a have quite a Grim outlook on life, but I am happy. Not much sense is made I know. Even though my life basically sucks I still look forward to the future and that is what brings me happiness because I will finally be at rest in heaven.

[Deaner]

Re: What is WRONG with you people?

I am constantly writing unholy stories such as seraphs becoming blood thirsty vampires and horror and sorrow. I also have a mild condition of schizophrenia and most of those characters are violent and unforgiving heathen bastards. , I a have quite a Grim outlook on life, but I am happy.

Stay the fuck away from me weirdo.

Are the flashing light people around?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What is WRONG with you people?

Because I enjoy heavy metal, blood, horror and am fascinated with unholy dealings. I am constantly writing unholy stories such as seraphs becoming blood thirsty vampires and horror and sorrow. I also have a mild condition of schizophrenia and most of those characters are violent and unforgiving heathen bastards. , I a have quite a Grim outlook on life, but I am happy. Not much sense is made I know. Even though my life basically sucks I still look forward to the future and that is what brings me happiness because I will finally be tortured forever in hell.

Spelling error corrected.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Because I enjoy heavy metal, blood, horror and am fascinated with unholy dealings. I am constantly writing unholy stories such as seraphs becoming blood thirsty vampires and horror and sorrow.

Oh, I get it!

You're an unoriginal, talentless twat who regurgitates the same tired tropes you've seen in the horror novels of mediocre authors and movies of barely passable directors and screenwriters . . . but yours are a rung or two lower on the quality ladder, right?

Writing down a bunch of words recycling a passe plotline isn't creative self-expression. I'd be willing to bet you don't even get paid for it, so you don't have the productivity of a William Wallace Cook sort (a production fiction writer of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, look him up) to fall back on. You just vainly spew uninteresting drivel, thinking it's literature.

Buy a clue, kid.

[LibitinaSaranyu]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Just wondering...is this considered gothic poetry?

This darkness
Deep but dazzling
Has its grip on my heart
And when the dazzle dies
There my stone heart will lie
Broken inside
Lost the want for life…
Try to escape the hurt
The pain of living
Give in
Give up
Lie down for an eternal rest
Away from the monotonous
Hateful, painful chorus of life
Never love again
The agony too much to bear…
Give in
Give up
Take a step back
Look into a meaningless life,
Dead eyes,
Shredded soul,
Trampled spirit,
Flower that never got the chance to bloom


or this one?

Where my journey through decadence takes shape
Where the voices of revulsion recede into nothingness
Resting its sturdy screams for another time
Bickering aimlessly with my conscious
All the while collecting memories with its bag of sorrow
To mourn my useless existence on a blank canvas
Vividly arranging my torment from distortion
Grasping my spear in the side
Breaking the thoughtless barrier between myself and bliss
The debris falling from the cloud above me
As the coarse stroke of destiny turns into a tender touch
Breeding a multitude of emotions in the process
Where I stalk carefully through a forest of catastrophe
Cascading every notion, where my pen plays guardian

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[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Just wondering...is this considered gothic poetry?

Who gives a crap if it's gothic poetry? Why do you copypaste random stuff with sarcasm smilies in this forum anyway?

[LibitinaSaranyu]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Who gives a crap if it's gothic poetry? Why do you copypaste random stuff with sarcasm smilies in this forum anyway?

Because its my poetry and i wanna know if i need to go see a counselor

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Because its my poetry and i wanna know if i need to go see a counselor

If you consider it even yourself as a sarcasm, then I think you know the answer already.