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  • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

    Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
    What would like to know about Goths? Landover has extensive information on this group compiled by our Christian Sociologists.
    I know a lot about goths, I am one afterall, and I've studied the subculture for quite some time.
    "A she-goff who claims to not be a witch is the worst kind of contradiction."

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    • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

      Originally posted by roserougesang View Post
      I know a lot about goths, I am one afterall, and I've studied the subculture for quite some time.
      Then clearly you don't need to be told anything else about their sinful ways. Why not start learning about JESUS instead?
      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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      • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

        Oh look. It's Fallen Angel's retarded younger brother.
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        • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

          Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post
          Oh look. It's Fallen Angel's retarded younger brother.
          If he's Fallen Angel's younger brother, how can you tell if he's retarded?

          Looks just like her posts, only with more icons than unintelligible yammering.

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          • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

            You people are pathetic. You tell me I`m retarded, yet you make up this forum to make fun of people who are different then you. You people disgust me. Who are you to say that gothic people worship the devil? This is just some bullshit you`ve made up, gothic people don`t worship the devil. You, my friends, are ****ing retarded.

            And I`ve bet I`ve got more intelligence then you`ll ever have. Please think twice before you slander me, thanks.

            Gothic people do not slit their wrists, there`s a thing called "EMO" for that, kthnx.


            What the hell happened to "GOD LOVES EVERYONE!"?
            What about love? I don`t think making fun of someone who doesn`t have the same belief as you saying true to your so called great God.

            Blaming goths for a school shooting, wow. I bet to you that any shooting comes from somone who you might consider "normal" to society.

            You people aren`t christians, you`re not. How can you honestly sit at your computer desk and type those words and still be a christian? Is this something God would do? I seriously doubt it.

            You have your beliefs, and why not let others have theirs? Is it write to accuse someone you have no knowledge of, never met, seen, or anything, of worshiping the devil?

            I think you people have a crucifix shoved too far up your asshole to realize this is wrong, you`re wrong, you`re not a, so claimed, "christian"

            I assure you, wearing black doesn`t mean you worship the devil. I mean hell, my best friend wears black, but not a lot, she`s different, wouldn`t be considered "normal" to you people, but you`d put her into that group, but she`s a christian, ZOMG WOWOWOOWOWW.

            You people are too quick to judge.

            I can find so many things with your religion, it`s gross.
            Adam and Eve, for one thing, there kids must`ve be incest to populate the world. That`s wrong in the bible.

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            • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

              Have you ever read the Bible, Ix?

              Originally posted by g0thix View Post
              You people are pathetic. You tell me I`m retarded, yet you make up this forum to make fun of people who are different then you. You people disgust me. Who are you to say that gothic people worship the devil? This is just some bullshit you`ve made up, gothic people don`t worship the devil. You, my friends, are ****ing retarded.
              Please provide evidence to back up your claim that goths do not worship the Devil.
              What the hell happened to "GOD LOVES EVERYONE!"?
              Please show us where the Bible says that God loves everyone.

              God hates most people; He only loves those who follow Him, and who follow Him in exactly the way He prescribes. He's very particular that way.

              Have you ever read the Bible?
              What about love? I don`t think making fun of someone who doesn`t have the same belief as you saying true to your so called great God.
              There is no "making fun" going on here. We're giving warning signs to parents that their child may be a devil-worshipping goth, losing his or her eternal soul to hellfire. Does that sound like "making fun" to you, boy?
              Blaming goths for a school shooting, wow. I bet to you that any shooting comes from somone who you might consider "normal" to society.
              Why don't you look up the cases of Columbine and other school shootings, and tell us how "normal" the shooters were. Evidence to back up your claims, please.
              You people aren`t christians, you`re not. How can you honestly sit at your computer desk and type those words and still be a christian? Is this something God would do? I seriously doubt it.
              What is a Christian?

              A Christian is one who follows ALL of God's Word. Not the nice parts about love, and not just the convenient parts. ALL of it. That is what we do. Yes, we are True Christians, but very few others are.
              You have your beliefs, and why not let others have theirs? Is it write to accuse someone you have no knowledge of, never met, seen, or anything, of worshiping the devil?
              God tells us in His Holy Word that anyone who does not follow Him will go to Hell. How loving would we be if we stood idly by and let people like you go merrily forward in life, down the broad road to eternal punishment for your finite sins, without at least trying to give you warning?
              I think you people have a crucifix shoved too far up your behind to realize this is wrong, you`re wrong, you`re not a, so claimed, "christian"
              Apparently, you can't tell the difference between a Christian and a Catholic; this may be part of your problem. Only Catholics use crucifixes, because Catholics celebrate the crucifixion, rather than the resurrection, of Jesus.
              I assure you, wearing black doesn`t mean you worship the devil. I mean hell, my best friend wears black, but not a lot, she`s different, wouldn`t be considered "normal" to you people, but you`d put her into that group, but she`s a christian, ZOMG WOWOWOOWOWW.
              Catholic priests wear black, and they sodomize altar boys AND worship the devil. Does your best friend sodomize altar boys?
              You people are too quick to judge.
              What discussions have you had with us, and how many threads did you actually read, and how much of the Bible have you read, before you made this post?

              Yeah, I thought so. Yet you say WE are too quick to judge? Hypocrite.
              I can find so many things with your religion, it`s gross.
              Adam and Eve, for one thing, there kids must`ve be incest to populate the world. That`s wrong in the bible.
              Please show us exactly where the Bible says incest is wrong.

              When you look and can't find that -- because it's not there -- please show us where incest is permitted or encouraged.

              I'll give you a starting point:

              Adam and Eve

              Lot and his daughters

              Noah's sons/their wives (after the Flood)

              Judah and his daughter-in-law

              As expected, you come ranting about what the Bible says, when you have no idea what the Bible says. You know a bunch of fairy tales about infinite love told you by some pastor or other who just wanted you to throw some dollars in the collection plate!

              I suggest you start off by going to www.landoverbaptist.org/quizlist.html and taking a few Bible quizzes, to see where your learning is deficient.

              Based upon your above post, you don't know much, if anything, about the Bible (beyond the title).

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              • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                (John 3:16; 1 John 2:2; Romans 5:8). This love in not conditional – it is based only on the fact that God is a God of love (1 John 4:8,16). God’s love for all of mankind results in the fact that God shows His mercy by not immediately punishing people for their sins (Romans 3:23; 6:23). If God did not love everyone, we would all be in hell right now. God’s love for the world is manifested in the fact that He gives people the opportunity to repent (2 Peter 3:9). However, God’s love for the world does not mean that He will ignore sin. God is also a God of justice (2 Thessalonians 1:6). Sin cannot go unpunished forever (Romans 3:25-26).


                So
                you`re telling me God hates everyone, right?
                You clearly have no knowledge of the bible, don`t tell me I need to read it.

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                • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                  Originally posted by g0thix View Post
                  (John 3:16; 1 John 2:2; Romans 5:8). This love in not conditional – it is based only on the fact that God is a God of love (1 John 4:8,16). God’s love for all of mankind results in the fact that God shows His mercy by not immediately punishing people for their sins (Romans 3:23; 6:23). If God did not love everyone, we would all be in hell right now. God’s love for the world is manifested in the fact that He gives people the opportunity to repent (2 Peter 3:9). However, God’s love for the world does not mean that He will ignore sin. God is also a God of justice (2 Thessalonians 1:6). Sin cannot go unpunished forever (Romans 3:25-26).


                  So
                  you`re telling me God hates everyone, right?
                  You clearly have no knowledge of the bible, don`t tell me I need to read it.
                  At no point did I say that God hates everyone. I said He hates those who do not follow Him. Read the rest of the Bible (as stated above, not just the parts you like), and you will soon learn this.

                  Go take some Bible quizzes, you may just learn something.

                  Finally, if you will cut and paste something, attribute it to the author. You didn't write that, and posting it as though you did is plagiarism. That's stealing.

                  And you're stealing from someone who lies by not telling the whole truth about God's Word. If you're going to quote someone, quote someone who tells the truth, not lies and says what you want to hear.
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                  • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                    Originally posted by g0thix View Post
                    (John 3:16; 1 John 2:2; Romans 5:8). This love in not conditional – it is based only on the fact that God is a God of love (1 John 4:8,16). God’s love for all of mankind results in the fact that God shows His mercy by not immediately punishing people for their sins (Romans 3:23; 6:23). If God did not love everyone, we would all be in hell right now. God’s love for the world is manifested in the fact that He gives people the opportunity to repent (2 Peter 3:9). However, God’s love for the world does not mean that He will ignore sin. God is also a God of justice (2 Thessalonians 1:6). Sin cannot go unpunished forever (Romans 3:25-26).


                    So
                    you`re telling me God hates everyone, right?
                    You clearly have no knowledge of the bible, don`t tell me I need to read it.
                    We're telling you God doesn't love everyone. For instance, He hates all workers of iniquity (sinners).
                    And if you don't recognise that, then YOU have no knowledge of the Bible.
                    Because that's EXACTLY and LITERALLY what it says.

                    The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
                    Thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
                    Psalm 5:5
                    If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                    A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                    Proverbs 9:12-13

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                    • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                      Originally posted by roserougesang View Post
                      I know a lot about goths, I am one afterall, and I've studied the subculture for quite some time.
                      Well let's make a little summary here. The thread has had 19,740 views with 713 replies. I have yet to see any cogent, intelligent, and compelling replies as to why any human being should spend the limited time they have in this mortal life living it as a Goth. There is nothing holding anyone back here, so let's hear it.
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                      brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
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                      • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                        Originally posted by davaca View Post
                        what's that supposed to mean?
                        She obviously seems to be rather dumb (which has nothing to do with her being gothic, she just seems dumb), but exactly why makes that her Belgian?

                        It seems she's is about the worst kind of cliché, childish goth around. No offence to real goths, but I hate such children...
                        And it's Belgium, my dear...
                        Originally posted by roserougesang View Post
                        No offence to Fallen Angel but I do agree with you. The proper term to describe her would be 'Mallgoth'

                        Mallgoth: Conforms to the media stereotype of Goth, listens to crappy nu-metal bands and pretends to be obsessed with death.

                        Luckily it's just a phase for most....

                        They give us 'True Goths' a bad name
                        y do u have to be so mean too me????????? im not stupid n ive been trying to get better at typing..........i can even quote more than 1 ppl which isnt something n00bs can do........ so u dun like the music i listen too oh well........even the cristians here who r mean to every1 see how mean u are.......
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                        • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                          It seems to me that the Old Testament has a different perspective than the New Testament. In the NT (the parts that come to mind, time I read the Bible again anyhow) it's stated more that God loves all, whereas in the OT, vice versa.
                          Gets pretty confusing for me too, but all the same; just because God loves all doesn't mean he can't punish them either, which might be interpreted as hatred. Could anyone compare both testaments on their views, perhaps?

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                          • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                            Originally posted by Apollyon View Post
                            It seems to me that the Old Testament has a different perspective than the New Testament. In the NT (the parts that come to mind, time I read the Bible again anyhow) it's stated more that God loves all, whereas in the OT, vice versa.
                            Gets pretty confusing for me too, but all the same; just because God loves all doesn't mean he can't punish them either, which might be interpreted as hatred. Could anyone compare both testaments on their views, perhaps?
                            u should try being wiccen............ the godess loves every1 n doesnt punish ppl but if u cast evil it comes back n hurts u 3 times..............
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                            • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                              evil majick i was talking about but i cant edit my post.............if u cast evil majick its really bad for u..........n i have too wait really long b4 i can make another post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!3 minutes!!!!!! but thats ok coz the pasters were nice to take me off moderation..............(sorry i made u mad paster eckzeil)..........
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                              • Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

                                Originally posted by Fallen Angel View Post
                                u should try being wiccen............ the godess loves every1 n doesnt punish ppl but if u cast evil it comes back n hurts u 3 times..............
                                Er, yes, have a rainbow. First of all, it's wiccan. Second, I'm more of an empirical agnost, so godesses really don't appeal to me that much, as does the superstition of things coming back threefold. And last but not least, I'd hate to be associated with all the posers out there who say they're wiccan, gothic (the pictures in the beginning of this thread were simply hilarious ), or whatever else there is, it just seems so "I'm trying to be accepted by people on the margin of society".

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