[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Did I miss anything?

First off, all I said was that your reincarnation claim is pretty lean on the science, that includes ALL the "evidence" from EVERY crackpot. Don't worry, so is evolution and the big bang, these kinds of THEORIES just don't hold up to scrutiny.

Second, why would you ever want to be a gothic anyway? Aren't they all unpopular white trash drug addicts? What an aspiration!

Yours in Christ
AM

Yet again, why don't you try READING my posts. I have not cried. Stop calling everyone you cannot fight with logic a crybaby. Second, stop assuming everyone who disagrees with something in the version of the bible you are reading is on drugs or mentally ill. Evolution has been proven as well, way more-so than your bible.

And why wouldn't I want to be Goth? There is nothing wrong with it. Please read my responses. The Goth community does NOT support the drug scene. I like Goth Rock; therefore, I am Goth. And my family is working middle class descended from a knighted family, not white trash. A lot of Goths are models and/or run their own businesses or manage others. That is not white trash. Most Goth fashion is expensive unless you shop at thrift stores, and the more elaborate things can rarely be found there. I thought white trash was poor...I didn't know the poor could afford $100+ dollar corsets and $300+ gowns.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Yet again, why don't you try READING my posts. I have not cried. Stop calling everyone you cannot fight with logic a crybaby. Second, stop assuming everyone who disagrees with something in the version of the bible you are reading is on drugs or mentally ill. Evolution has been proven as well, way more-so than your bible.

And why wouldn't I want to be Goth? There is nothing wrong with it. Please read my responses. The Goth community does NOT support the drug scene. I like Goth Rock; therefore, I am Goth. And my family is working middle class descended from a knighted family, not white trash. A lot of Goths are models and/or run their own businesses or manage others. That is not white trash. Most Goth fashion is expensive unless you shop at thrift stores, and the more elaborate things can rarely be found there. I thought white trash was poor...I didn't know the poor could afford $100+ dollar corsets and $300+ gowns.

I don't care how you spend the money you "earn" from johns, The Bible has been proven so many times, just read through our forums, likewise for the disproof of evolution. It's all there, do your research you lazy gothball.

Also I never said poor, why don't you stop stereotyping and being so judgmental.

Yours in Christ
AM

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

True, since he has so far failed to provide ANY evidence.



Nope. Pagan is a heathen, just like a catlick or mudslime is a heathen. Every non-Christian is a heathen.

You might want to invest in a dictionary. Pagan is a religion, or rather an umbrella term for pre-Christian religions. A heathen is an uncivilized person. Modern Pagans are not heathens, and the idea that a lot of Pre-Christian Pagans were heathens was a misconception of the church.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You might want to invest in a dictionary. Pagan is a religion, or rather an umbrella term for pre-Christian religions. A heathen is an uncivilized person. Modern Pagans are not heathens, and the idea that a lot of Pre-Christian Pagans were heathens was a misconception of the church.

Definition of PAGAN

1
: heathen 1; especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I don't care how you spend the you "earn" from johns, The Bible has been proven so many times, just read through our forums, likewise for the disproof of evolution. It's all there, do your research you lazy gothball.

Also I never said poor, why don't you stop stereotyping and being so judgmental.

Yours in Christ
AM

Again, please do some research. Goths are not prostitutes, not are Pagans. Goths have legitimate legal businesses. As I said, many are models. That is NOT prostitution, and is a legal profession. Many others have their own businesses, these would be designing/selling clothing, jewelry, and other wares, usually at Goth festivals, clubs, Medieval/Renn festivals, and other historical re-enactments, as well as having websites for their particular businesses.

The bible was written by man and mistranslated many times by other men. It has not been proven. The only thing that there has been evidence of, is that Sodom and Gomorrah like cities MAY have existed and been destroyed, by NATAURAL disasters, and that there was probably a great flood. These types of disasters/myths have also been found in religions besides Christianity, so you can not say for a fact that they are proof that the bible's myths are the correct ones and say the Greek ones are not.

And "white trash" means "poor white person."

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Definition of PAGAN

1
: heathen 1; especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)

Did you bother looking up the definition of "heathen?" Because it clearly says "uncivilized." As I said, Pagans being supposedly uncivilized was often a misconception of the church. How many Pagan religions and cultures have you researched? Because when the Christians called them uncivilized in the Medieval era, they meant that these people did not bathe (which is amusing considering Christian Europe did not believe much in bathing either), that they did not have laws, etc., Yet the Romans were known for having bath houses, aqueducts, etc., and they had much cleanlier habits than the so-called civilized world. The Norse also had bath houses, and they had a court of law.

However, by heathen YOU simply mean Pagan than fine. That's not an insult.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Again, please do some research. Goths are not prostitutes, not are Pagans. Goths have legitimate legal businesses. As I said, many are models. That is NOT prostitution, and is a legal profession. Many others have their own businesses, these would be designing/selling clothing, jewelry, and other wares, usually at Goth festivals, clubs, Medieval/Renn festivals, and other historical re-enactments, as well as having websites for their particular businesses.

The bible was written by man and mistranslated many times by other men. It has not been proven. The only thing that there has been evidence of, is that Sodom and Gomorrah like cities MAY have existed and been destroyed, by NATAURAL disasters, and that there was probably a great flood. These types of disasters/myths have also been found in religions besides Christianity, so you can not say for a fact that they are proof that the bible's myths are the correct ones and say the Greek ones are not.

And "white trash" means "poor white person."

That is a meaning for it

white trashn. Offensive Slang 1. Used as a disparaging term for a poor white person or poor white people.
2. Used as a disparaging term for a white person or white people perceived as being lazy and ignorant.

And since when does owning a business make you not white trash, or being a model not make you a prostitute



what about
Gia Carangi

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

That is a meaning for it

white trashn. Offensive Slang 1. Used as a disparaging term for a poor white person or poor white people.
2. Used as a disparaging term for a white person or white people perceived as being lazy and ignorant.

And since when does owning a business make you not white trash, or being a model not make you a prostitute



what about
Gia Carangi

You do realize that slang definitions of words, regardless of what an internet dictionary says, should not be considered correct? Anyway, I am clearly not ignorant, obviously well educated, and am far from lazy, considering I run my own business, take care of a 4 year old, and babysit for a living.

Owning your own business does not make you white trash because A. A slang definition is not necessarily a real definition, and someone who runs a business is usually not poor. As I said, a poor person cannot afford an $100+ corset. B. It is a bit hard to run a business and yet be uneducated, which is the CORRECT definition of ignorant, and be lazy.

Also, how does being a model make one a prostitute? A model is posing for pictures, not having sex for money.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You do realize that slang definitions of words, regardless of what an internet dictionary says, should not be considered correct?

You do realize that was the definition of a slang word and not the other way around, and that you are not correct, right?

Anyway, I am clearly not ignorant, obviously well educated, and am far from lazy, considering I run my own business, take care of a 4 year old, and babysit for a living.

I don't think it's so clear, as for lazy... you can't even do a little research to back up your extraordinary claims of "reincarnation" plus for all I know your supposed child could be suffering malnutrition

Owning your own business does not make you white trash because

Never said it did, quite the contrary, I said

And since when does owning a business make you not white trash

Not "Owning your own business makes you white trash" see the difference?

A. A slang definition is not necessarily a real definition, and someone who runs a business is usually not poor.

See above, plus what about all those businesses that fail over long periods?

As I said, a poor person cannot afford an $100+ corset.

Unless they save the money from their johns, or neglect their kids' needs

B. It is a bit hard to run a business and yet be uneducated, which is the CORRECT definition of ignorant, and be lazy.

Yet not impossible, like reincarnation is. Plus being ignorant just means you don't know something, it's not necessarily an umbrella term meaning uneducated. For instance I am ignorant of what it's like to whore myself at goth concerts, while you are not.

Also, how does being a model make one a prostitute? A model is posing for pictures, not having sex for money.

Oh so it's their minds people are staring at? Plus you are taking what I said out of context.
Exodus 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.


What I meant is being a model and being a prostitute are not mutually exclusive. You can do both, in fact many do.

Prostitution in the Fashion Industry

Your move Godmocker

Yours in Him
DAM

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You do realize that was the definition of a slang word and not the other way around, and that you are not correct, right?



I don't think it's so clear, as for lazy... you can't even do a little research to back up your extraordinary claims of "reincarnation" plus for all I know your supposed child could be suffering malnutrition



Never said it did, quite the contrary, I said



Not "Owning your own business makes you white trash" see the difference?



See above, plus what about all those businesses that fail over long periods?



Unless they save the money from their johns, or neglect their kids' needs



Yet not impossible, like reincarnation is. Plus being ignorant just means you don't know something, it's not necessarily an umbrella term meaning uneducated. For instance I am ignorant of what it's like to whore myself at goth concerts, while you are not.



Oh so it's their minds people are staring at? Plus you are taking what I said out of context.
Exodus 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.


What I meant is being a model and being a prostitute are not mutually exclusive. You can do both, in fact many do.

Prostitution in the Fashion Industry

Your move Godmocker

Yours in Him
DAM

I will not do the research because I do not need you to belief in it, as I said. That is for you to decide.
My child is certainly not malnourished? Why would he be? He is healthy and well-taken care of. Do you think
social workers would allow a malnourished child to stay with a mother who is neglecting him?

Someone who owns a successful business cannot be white trash. It's impossible. I don't know of any Goth who
has had a business that has failed over the long term. The people I'm talking about have been in business for
years. Besides, according to you, white trash means unintelligent and lazy. You cannot run a successful business
if you are unintelligent and lazy. And anyone who can make a business last even a few years, is clearly not lazy.
Especially when they are designing and making their own products, as well as booking their own gigs.

Prostitutes who can save money are ones who are not on drugs, in which case, they would probably be making
enough that they would not need to save. Obviously if Goths are prostitutes, they're not on drugs, or they
would never save any money, and could not afford expensive clothing. However, Goths are not prostitutes, so
this really is irrelevant. We do not have "johns." And why would Goths neglect their child's needs? Any Goth
who did that would be reported to social services if another Goth found out about it because the subculture
does not support child suffering. And by the way, I have NEVER paid more than $32 for a corset. I am still
young and not quite as successful as most yet.

No one is "whoring" themselves at Goth concerts. People go to Goth concerts to listen to music, dance, meet the
bands, get their autographs, meet other Goths, discover the opening bands, and buy band merch. Goth concerts and
clubs are not prostitution rings, though apparently Overlea High School has one. One consisting of so-called
Christians. As I've said many times, I have never accepted payment for sex. The only person I even have it
with is my betrothed.

Starring at someone is not having sex with them. Goth models are usually clothed. Some do nude photography as well,
which I disapprove of, but many do not. Even those that are not clothed, that's pornography not prostitution.
Most are actually well-clothed. They model jewelry, hair pieces, hats, shoes, clothing.

True, there are some prostitutes who model. However, the Goth community is not one giant prostitution ring.
There might be some Goth prostitutes out there. Considering there are probably thousands of Goths in the world,
it wouldn't surprise me if there were a few. But most Goths are not prostitutes and I have never met one who is.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

If "goth" is based on music, why are there deaf goths?

_https://www.songkick.com/concerts/17511089-deptford-goth-at-deaf-institute

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

If "goth" is based on music, why are there deaf goths?

_https://www.songkick.com/concerts/17511089-deptford-goth-at-deaf-institute

If there are any "deaf" Goths, they must be on like my friend Kristin. Or I suppose they could be like Beethoven after he lost his hearing, and enjoy the vibrations of the music. A Goth is a fan of Goth Rock. If you cannot be a fan of it, you aren't Goth. Stop lumping everyone in black in with Goths. It's not one in the same. Also, the place you are linking is a bar, not an actual institute for the deaf.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

If there are any "deaf" Goths, they must be on like my friend Kristin. Or I suppose they could be like Beethoven after he lost his hearing, and enjoy the vibrations of the music. A Goth is a fan of Goth Rock. If you cannot be a fan of it, you aren't Goth. Stop lumping everyone in black in with Goths. It's not one in the same. Also, the place you are linking is a bar, not an actual institute for the deaf.

Just keep narrowing that category and making excuses.

We'll be here with God and Jesus when your all tuckered out

Numbers 10:9 And if ye go to war in your land against the enemy that oppresseth you, then ye shall blow an alarm with the trumpets; and ye shall be remembered before the Lord your God, and ye shall be saved from your enemies.


YiC
DAM

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

One way for parents to identify whether children are being hypnotised into this satanic culture is by noticing jewellery. Has your daughter seen a "cool" brooch? Does it look like this?



Her desire is to mock Jesus. Satan uses geometry to promote witchcraft and the goth embraces black magic (there is no other variety) to laugh at God.

Next it will be the "fun" temporary tatoo.



"Oh, all the other girls will be wearing one," she may well bleat (or words to that effect). Probably they will be, and so you will know that she has taken up with the grindcore crowd. Sit her down and question her.

"Why do you want a demonic tatoo?"

— I don't know

"Where were you last night?"

— Nowhere

"Who were you with?"

— I don't know

"We are so disappointed in you. Didn't we teach you not to lie?"

—

JOHN 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. KJV

Of course she knows where she was. She is lying. Jesus knew all about necromancy and black nuns. It's nothing new and your daughter should be reminded of this.

"Jesus knows where you were and saw what you did. How do you think Jesus feels?"

— I don't know

"Why do you always wear black?"

— It's a form of self expression

"No it isn't. Self expression is writing a book" (don't mention painting at this satge but be aware the sort of stuff she'll be obsessing over).

EXAMPLES

Notice how these images venerate death, adore destruction and ruin? Many goth sites self identify as unholy or as dark or devil inspired. Their words, not mine. Nowadays there is quite a lot of graffiti around so just by paying attention to which examples of this destructive art-form attract her attention as you drive along you will see the extent to which demons are in control. Stop the car.

"Why were you looking at that?"

— I wasn't

"Yes you were: I saw you" (she is lying again).

—

Remind your daughter (or son) of the passage from John's Gospel. Of course as you zero in on the true cause of all this the devils will become uncomfortable. By getting out and approaching the graffito these devils will respond to the "art" of their master. Bind those demons in Jesus' name right there, in prayer. It is her (or his) eternity at stake here and although there may be opposition to what you are doing in the longer term you will be thanked for what you do.

MATTHEW 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. KJV

None of the above is opinion from me. It is a simple record of the sorts of stuff these wretches themselves claim, supported as always with actual images and comments from the goths about how they see the world. It is in sharp contrast with what Jesus teaches us and no Christian could ever be any sort of "goth" which The Pastors will confirm is a glorification of SATAN and the fast track to HELL FOREVER.

Parents wishing to confirm that gothics do indeed self-describe like this will find many more resources by searching the different terms I've used or by searching for "goth art" or something but be warned: this culture is satanic so prepare to be revolted. I know I was.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

For the life of me, I'll never understand why goth people feel compelled to eat babies, drink the urine of the undead and summon demons. Does your bastard son, born from your whoring relations with a minion of the Devil, realize he is merely being fattened up for a 10/31 feast?