[Gamertard]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

How I stack up to this stupid thing

1-Frequently wears black clothing. (Yep, really cute ones with bows and things)
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. (Well, EXCUSE ME for liking a band)
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish. (Does Mascera count?)
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols. (First off, Ankhs are a sign of LIFE in the ANCIENT EGYPTIAN culture. Second off, if you wanna talk about weird, how does Wearing-a-dead-guy-nailed-to-a-cross measure up?)
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos. (I'm getting a bat wing and an angel wing to demonstrate the good and evil within me. Oh, and one to commemorate my dead grandmother.)
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Does foreign music count?)
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically. (You've never been to an Anime Expo, have you?)
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports. (So I'm not active. So?)
9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan. (I read fantasy novels and Harry Potter)
10-Takes drugs. (Asprin?)
11-Drinks alcohol. (I'm 21?)
12-Is suicidal and/or depressed. (Doesn't everyone have bad days?)
13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.) (No, actually. It's because they think that the world is a lie and pain reminds them that they are alive)
14-Complains of boredom. (Well, of course if you take all the fun stuff away, they won't have anything to do.)
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little. (Those are actually physical problems. I should know. Even after eight hours of sleep, I'm still tired)
16-Is excessively awake during the night. (I work better at night.)
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.) (Um, no. It's bright and hurts my eyes. People with light eye colors handle sunlight worse than those with darker eyes)
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy. (Perhaps to work on homework...)
19-Spends large amounts of time alone. (Again. Homework.)
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) (No, meditation is to find Inner Peace. I use it to calm myself after a stressful day.)
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult. (Isn't that just a normal sign of growing up?)
22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this. (Ok, it's bad, I know. But when someone is shoving their religion down my throat, I'm not exactly going to be nice to them. No matter who they are. I mean, I have my beliefs and you have yours. Butt out.)
23-Misbehaves at school. (terrible, but kids want to test limits)
24-Misbehaves at home. (Spank them. Not out of anger, and no more than, say, 3.)
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this. (Oh, I'm good then. I only eat Count Chocula.)
26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.) (Hey, vampires are a cool myth. Ever read Anne Rice?)
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) (...so suddenly the Disney channel is off limits.)
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature. (It can be used as anger managment. I know it prevents me from, say, going and killing the person I'm mad at. Better than killing living people.)
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer. (Again, homework and research)
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. (...)
31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner. (How ELSE are you suposed to dance? Like sticks?)
32-Expresses an interest in sex. (....no comment)
33-Masturbates. (Stress reliever anyone?)
34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual. (What the hell is wrong with loving another person?)
35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism. (Oh yes, Buddhism is sooooo dangerous. It practices that you should never hurt others for whatever and to forgive those who do wrong to you.....sound familiiar?)
36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth". (No comment)
37-Claims to be a goth. (Again, no comment)



Ok, so according to this, I'm a goth. Even though I'm happy with my lot in life, you would never catch me dead with a Ouji board, or hurting myself. Nice. Yet another way to STEROTYPE America...

What happened to TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WISH TO BE TREATED and LOVE THY NEIHBOR?????

Oh, and the raccist Obahma-Spider-Demon? Yeah, whatever. And did you know that McCain wants to take away Women's Rights? HE DOESN'T NEED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT!!!!!

[Rita]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Is this serious? I'm gonna tell you something so you don't look even more like someone who belongs in a mental-ward to someone of importance.

Confusious says: Do not judge that which you do not comprehend.


-some people wear black because its "slimming" as in it makes fatasses look skinnier
-Rock bands have nothing to do with the devil. They are simply a genre, or a FLAVOR, that people enjoy.
-some people wear excessive makeup because they feel that they are not pretty, so its to "counter" what they see in the mirror
-You are retarded. Ankhs have nothing to do with Satan. Ankh is the religious symbol of ancient Egyptians. Not of Satan.
-Piercings of the lips, nose, and ears is a normal, cultural thing. How is the devil related, I ask?
-Define "anti-social music genre" for me. Is it the 'general sound'? Because that is as stupid as racism like in your sig. Marilyn Manson does that to piss you off, btw. He's not serious.
-What is the 'normal' to your 'eccentric'? Whats wrong with having too much coffee in the morning?
-Churchgoing is not wholesome. You can pray in the privacy of your own home too. Prayer is also only for those who need it, and is not recommended as an end-all of every waking moment. He gave us free-will so he wouldn't have to keep an eye on us, after all. How is "the bible" an activity? Talk about a boooooooring read.
-If death involves Satan, then why did got make us mortal? That would mean he willingly sends us to Satan. Magic/witchcraft is not from the Devil, but from a source that God still shines his light upon, as long as it is used correctly... like any interaction with another human.
-Drugs? So I'm not allowed to take aspirin for the migraines religious solicitors give me?
-Drinking alcohol... I would if I had a parent like you. So I could sleep at night without fear of waking up possessed by your false-light.
-suicide/depression? What are you on?? That does not come from "goth" or "satan" it comes from real life problems, like getting the crap beat out of you for being a teachers-pet!! Seek medical help so your kid can get into foster care!!
-self mutilation is not from satan either. Its from an inwards-process where the person believes they only are alive if they feel the pain from being alive. Or from having crazy parents.
-Boredom comes from your folks stealing/destroying stuff that you payed for because they MISTAKENLY think its Satanism. I'd be damn bored too if my parents said "bible or stfu!"
-The amount of sleep a person needs is not always going to be 8 hours. Some people just need more or less. 8 hours is a general guess out of years of scientific study.
-Some people function better at different times of the day/night. Example: people with allergies breathe easier at night, so they tend to try to be awake/functioning at the night time.
-Have you considered checking the wattage on your light bulbs? Some people have very sensitive eyes that do not adjust well to change. Darkness is easily made constant vs the light. It has nothing to do with God.
- It is normal for teenagers to socially stray away from their parents and want to be alone. It's called "GROWING UP"
-Have you considered that highschools give shit-loads of homework? They keep students busy 6-8 hours a night after school. Maybe your kid doesn't want to be bugged by all their siblings (because you religious people breed like roaches) while studying for the test on math/rocket science.
-I now KNOW you are under the influence of something. Meditation is SCIENTIFICALLY RECOGNIZED as a stress-reliever. Teenagers are more stressed than anyone else.
-Of COARSE kids don't want their crazy religious parents around while trying to make friends!! People with religious parents have the HARDEST TIME keeping friends because their parents SCARE PEOPLE.
-I disregard priests and nuns because they disregard my free-will and disdain for them coming onto my property. And priests rape little boys. I disregard teachers because I've been raped by one. Old people? Just because they are old doesn't mean I should respect them. Respect is earned, not granted. Another thing: I don't listen to strangers.
-People misbehave at school when they are stressed. If I had religious parents/shitty home life, then I'd probably misbehave at school too.
-If children misbehave at home (age 2-13) then teach them not to. ADUH. age 14-17 figure out WHAT IS WRONG with them, and don't assume its the Devil. That just makes things worse.
-Goth related foods...? You really need to get your head checked
-Vampires do not wish to attain satan. They wish to attain sustainment for their own life. You see, Vampire's internal organs are all shriveled/dry because of being undead, so they can't digest food. Blood is the "source of life" therefore they can drink it. Read your mythology before dragging it out.
-Cable television may have some "corrupt" pieces, however for the most part it is censored by the government. If you watch TV then you should let your kids... damn hypocrite.
-How is "role-play" Devil's work? I demand proof. Priests Roleplay all the time. They PRETEND to hear God.. while raping little boys with Micheal Jackson. Would you rather of, instead of role-play games, people went out and killed other people with swords??
-Most children use the internet for school, you know.They set aside time to STUDY. USING THE INTERNET. If you aren't on the internet then how the hell am I reading this bullcrap?!
-There is no Satanic symbol one can make. The symbol they make means "rock on" which means "party" also known as "have fun"
-Dancing provocative? Do tell. I bet you know all about it
-Most humans hit sexual maturity between 11-16 years old. YES. THEY WILL THINK ABOUT SEX. Human nature. A DUH
-Masturbation is bad? I think baby making is worse. AIDS is worse too.
-homo/bisexuality is not controllable NOR IS IT THE DEVIL. It comes from an abnormality in chemical levels in the brain, or an unusual chromosome count. Which is determined by genetics, dietary, and mental stability.
-You can't say every other group is Satanism you dumbshit. If anything, you fukkin baptists are the cult. Sheesh. I wonder if you are part of that Baptist camp that rapes little girls for the priest?
-They don't make pins/stickers that say "I'm so goth" and if anyone wore that shit I would personally beat the shit out of them. For being stupid
-if they claim to be a goth, it is a psychological weakness from needing to find a group of friends but being cast aside as a loaner.

you need to be checked into a mental institution if you really believe all that BS in your first post.

If a boy wears his little sister's pants.. THATS the real ones you gotta keep an eye on! HAHAHA

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may
have gone astray from the Lord. Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure
and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to
participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds
into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek
immediate attention through counselling, prayer, and parental
guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the
following are applicable to your child:

[lots of bologna]

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene
immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it.
If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental
health center.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Is this serious? I'm gonna tell you something so you don't look even more like someone who belongs in a mental-ward to someone of importance.

.......

<endless uninformed rant>

Come back when you have read all 2,686 posts in this thread – you might emerge a little wiser and be able to say something that might pass for intelligence.

[VictoryOS]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Wow, those were some really long posts. Did anyone read them? I'm just looking for a Cliff's Notes version.

[Rita]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Come back when you have read all 2,686 posts in this thread – you might emerge a little wiser and be able to say something that might pass for intelligence.

OBJECTION!



I'd get stupider if I wasted that time

[VictoryOS]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Did you make that chart yourself? Do you have a copy of the research to back it up? Friend, it seems you're willing to believe anything your computer tells you. Do you really think your computer cares about your Eternal Soul? There's someone who does care and I think you can guess who that is.

I'll be praying for you.

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Friend, that silly chart has already been torn to shreads after they tried using it. It doesn't account for key items like wealth, and countries these people lived in etc. Anyone can come up with a one sided chart. Especially these loony "scientists" with all this time on their hands.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

OBJECTION!

I'd get stupider if I wasted that time

Come, now.

Let's not hope for the impossible, dear.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

OBJECTION!

<ridiculous chart that does not prove anything>


I'd get stupider if I wasted that time

One thing your "small" mind hasn't learned about "science" yet is that correlation does not prove causality.

We are talking about the "Goth" death style in this thread, and about how God wants us to live our lives – no matter what your IQ happens to be. Truth has nothing to do with IQ, so your argument does not fly.

[Rita]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Truth has nothing to do with IQ, so your argument does not fly.

What is "THE TRUTH" then? Where is God? Prove to me His words are shown through Mother Glendora, and therefore she isn't crazy.

God said "Do not follow man", so if he is to speak through a human, wouldn't that be hypocritical of him? Wouldn't that also mean that the OP is full of lies?

[iamnot]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

1-Frequently wears black clothing.
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols.
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports.
9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
10-Takes drugs.
11-Drinks alcohol.
12-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.)
14-Complains of boredom.
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
16-Is excessively awake during the night.
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
19-Spends large amounts of time alone.
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult.
22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this.
23-Misbehaves at school.
24-Misbehaves at home.
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this.
26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.)
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature.
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
32-Expresses an interest in sex.
33-Masturbates.
34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
37-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene
immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it.
If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental
health center.

The following is a critique of the original post. While I'm really not intending to stir up trouble, some of these bother me...or are borderline stupid. I don't know how old this is, but it seems active and i appologize for necroposting if that applies.
*numbers pertain to number of trait on the list*

1. granted, accurate
2. What about christian bands? It seems a little open ended doesn't it. Also, are you still blaming rock and roll? There are CHRISTIAN rock bands, they are not mutually exclusive
3. accurate
4. accurate
5. Even the hip hop/ "gangsta" type are interested in that. for those that aren't aware, goth and gangsta are sorta at opposite ends of the social spectrum. not accurate, far too broad, although the symbol part is applicable
6. For something like this, defining your terms is kinda important. Having a definition of "Anti-social music" is crucial to understanding this
7. again with the terms. Define eccentric. Is this just what you consider weird? Being eccentric, sometimes called creative can just be a sign that you have a healthy kid with an active and working brain
8. The first two i understand, but sports? Granted its a great form of excersize and kids need to be active, but some people aren't great at sports. Why maintain interest in something you aren't even good at. And including sports along with the Bible and prayer is insulting to me.
9. accurate, and if interest in death grows, the OP is right, seek help.
10. if this occurs please get help
11. same as 10, get help
12. Teenage depression is very serious. Seek immediate counseling. I'm a surviver of teenage depression, and i will tell you it is a mental illness. Do not try and deal with it yourself, you will not understand how they feel because it is not a normal state of mind.
13. Accurate to a point. In many cases your child is just seeking attention. in more serious cases, the pain inflicted causes your body to release endorphins, causing a sort of high. In most cases this is not a "satanic ritual" lol
14. wait...WHAT. Ok, i get the whole "idle minds/hands" things but being bored is not a symptom of "goth". can it lead to being goth maybe though. Seriously, if your kid is bored, try and get them into youth sports, get them into an activity.
15. ...ok, maybe your kid is lazy. Or maybe they are too inactive and unable to get rid of pent up energy. sleeping too much/too little can also be a sign of teenage depression though so if suicidal thoughts or self mutilation go along with it, do get mental help
16. again, maybe they aren't active enough. Or maybe they are simply a night person. Seriously, some people are naturally more awake later in the day. Get your kid on a regular sleep schedule (wake them up if you have too) and trust me, they will sleep.
17. For the more vampire obsessed this is true. But normally it isn't. Some people just don't like the sun. I personally am rather sensitive to light. It causes me eye strain and gives me migrains. So i avoid the sun so that i don't get head aches, does that make me evil?
18. well...they are a teenager. But you should demand a certain compliance and maintain an active role in your childes life
19. Has anybody heard of introverts here? Going along with the privacy thing, you should keep tabs on them, but if they are alone, and in your house, they probably aren't doing drugs. Just check on them. Not everybody is a social butterfly
20. Absolutely assuming that your child wants quite to speak to demons seems a little extreme. meditation is not necaserally spiritual, and time for contemplation has been proven to be healthy. Also, for all you know, your child may be spending time in quiet prayer.
21. Again...teenagers, what can i say. Even good kids like to hang out with friends without their parents watching their every move. If there is a mix of male and female at your house, just keep and eye on them and make them keep the door open.
22. Disciplen will fix this. Be firm, but not overly so. Remember, you are the parent, you are the boss.
23. C'mon really. Of course this is a problem but it is DEFINITELY not confined to the goth subculture.
24. same as 23
25. this one is ridiculous...what exactly is "goth food", and what is dracula cerial...surely he doesn't mean count chocula?! Again, define terms
26. Yes, and no. Vampires are totally different from satanist. Vampires believe that they gain life energy from consuming blood. As the OP said though, this is very dangerous, and should absolutely be stopped. AIDS can be contract from this action
27. ... really now. Don't exclude ALL of cable. What about NatGeo, discovery, or even history if you don't approve of the previous 2. Don't buy them a TV if your worried, and keep the ONE TV in a room that you can easily monitor
28. The violence i can understand, but the OP has clearly never played an RPG (Role Play Game). There are plenty of tame RPG games, and you you should make a judgment based on the rating. Now, there are several ratings for video games, and all are rated by the ESRB (they rate movies too) I will go over them with you now. "E" stands for Everyone. These games will have minimal or no violence, and no offensive language. may have a little bathroom humour though. "T" Is one step up, and stands for Teen, and will probably have mild violence (no blood). May have mild language (it will be sparse, and not have the dreaded "F" word) and some crude or sexual humour. "M" is one more step up and means Mature. As you can guess, it will have blood, course language, and probably sexual themes. under 17 are not allowed to buy these at most stores. "AO" is the top rating, and stands for ADULTS ONLY. what more do you need, i really shouldn't need to explain that. It is illigal for anybody under 18 to buy these so in general don't worry. RPG's, in conclusion will not make you "goth"...I promise.
29. well, this site is on the internet. If i spend every waking moment on here, am I an evil satan worshiping goth? Really, the internet can contain some bad stuff, but not all of it is bad. Just have a parental block if you are worried. Also, if they are on the internet to much, they are probably just nerdy...not a goth.
30. Satanic symbols makes sence, but the "violently shakes head to music"...thats called head banging and I'm sorry, but that doesn't make you goth...it just doesn't
31. Actually the goth subculture is usually socially awkward and probably won't dance like that. Again its far more of a mainstream (hip hop/gangsta) thing.
32. ...Look i don't know what your views on this are, but its natural for teenagers to be interested in this. I'm sorry, but it just is. it doesn't make them goth, it makes them normal.
33. .....this is such a personal thing, I'm not even touching it
34. and all those flamboyant colorful gays are just closet goths? I'm not arguing the morality of it, but its not a feature of goth, thats just silly.
35. ...I have very little to say about this, other than the fact that Buddhism is not dangerous from a physical perspective. No Buddhist will shoot up their school, they are non violent according to their religion.
36. well, if they say they are goth....um, DUH
37. same as 36

phew, that was long. Feel free to flame me/hate me, but i felt i had to insert a little reason into this thread. The OP probably includes EVERY TEEN AGER IN AMERICA.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

What is "THE TRUTH" then? Where is God? Prove to me His words are shown through Mother Glendora, and therefore she isn't crazy.

God said "Do not follow man", so if he is to speak through a human, wouldn't that be hypocritical of him? Wouldn't that also mean that the OP is full of lies?

Mother Glendora is a True Christian™ and speaks with the authority of the Bible (KJV1611) to back her up. If you have a problem with that, take it up with God.

You might want to quote chapter and verse in the Bible (KJV1611) to back up your assertions. The Bible (KJV1611) is the inspired word of God that tells man how to obey His will, not mans.

1 Corinthians 2:10-13; Ephesians 3:3-5; John 16:13; Matthew 10:19,20; Galatians 1:8-12; 2 Peter 1:20,21; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; Luke 10:16

Take your tedious and pointless sophistry elsewhere, the Landover Baptist Church is the only True Christian™ church on the planet, we follow the Bible (KJV1611) 100%.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

The following is a critique of the original post. While I'm really not intending to stir up trouble, some of these bother me...or are borderline stupid. I don't know how old this is, but it seems active and i appologize for necroposting if that applies.
*numbers pertain to number of trait on the list*

<Unctuous, self-absorbed personal opinion that doesn't really interest Jesus>

phew, that was long. Feel free to flame me/hate me, but i felt i had to insert a little reason into this thread. The OP probably includes EVERY TEEN AGER IN AMERICA.

Have you ever noticed that most internet connections in people's homes are asymmetrical (more download bandwidth than upload bandwidth)? Jesus inspired the designers of the internet to do this for a purpose; He meant for you to do more reading than trying to second guess the Lord and offer your objections and personal opinions on how the universe should be run. Jesus brought you here to listen to His word, not for you to sass back to Him.

All of your points have been answered by our august and knowledgeable Pastors somewhere in this thread. Do some reading first.

[Nobar King]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I'm really not intending to stir up trouble, i appologize for necroposting if that applies.

• Disciplen will fix this. Be firm, but not overly so. Remember, you are the parent, you are the boss.

It's always amusing when the children try to teach the parent his job.

.....this is such a personal thing, I'm not even touching it

At least you got ONE thing right.

[christain-goth]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Wow.....this has to be one of the stupidest lists on earth.......

1-Frequently wears black clothing. A lot of people wear black, it does not mean that they are goth in any way
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. Which doesn't make someone gothic, people wear those shirts because they love rock music or to support the band
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.Lot's of non-goths wear them too, I've met preps who wear black nailpolish
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols.Most of the symbols aren't even satanic
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.Those are a way to make yourself stand out from other people
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.) Yah, people do listen to different music, not everyone likes mainstream crap mmkay?
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports. WTF do sports have to do with God?
9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan. The gothic subculture has nothing to do with Satan
10-Takes drugs.
11-Drinks alcohol.
12-Is suicidal and/or depressed. Is someone is suicidal and depressed it means they need help
13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.) This isn't a satanic ritual, people do this because they're sick
14-Complains of boredom. who doesn't?
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little. Could be cause by insomnia
16-Is excessively awake during the night. Which means the person is either insomniac, or just likes to stay up late
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.) Not all goths do, and some people have sensitive skin which burns easily
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.Everyone does, you can't be surrounded by people 24/7
19-Spends large amounts of time alone. Teenagers need independance
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) Meditation isn't used to talk to evil spirits, it's used to calm the mind and relax you
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult. I'm sure that teenagers aren't going to want their parents around them all the time
22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this.
23-Misbehaves at school.
24-Misbehaves at home.
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this. wtf does eating food have to do with goth?
26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.)
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) Who doesn't watch cable?
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature.Nothing wrong with that
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer. Then why does this site exist?
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. It's called headbanging, and in no way is it satanic
31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner. that would be hip-hop, not goth
32-Expresses an interest in sex.
33-Masturbates. Almost everybody masturbates, its natural
34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual. Does not make you gothic
35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, I'm not satanist, but anyone with half a brain would know that they don't even beileve in the devil
Scientology, Ok scientology is a cult I'll admit that, but in no way are goths are part of it Philosophy, Philosophy is used to understand how the mind works Paganism, Wicca, They have nothing to do with satan Hinduism I don't know a lot about Hinduism, but I know for sure that it isn't a cult and Buddhism WTF? Buddism, as far as I know there probably one of the most peaceful religions.
36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
37-Claims to be a goth. A lot of people do, I do.

So yah, most things in this list apply to normal teenagers, and before you reply back to tell me what a "Fat, lesbian, pimply goth" I am, just remember this, were not the ones who make threads and bash people, goths are humans to, just because they dress different doesn't mean they're evil. I'm goth, and I'm christain (yes goths can be christains). I believe in God, but I don't believe he's the homophobic, racist moron you guys make him out to be. You post stuff like this, and then you wonder why there's people out there who hate christianity, and all the religions who named are not cults (except scientology). If anything is a cult it's this church.