Genesis C1, V29.

[fusefag]

Genesis C1, V29. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.


So recently I have been drinking a lot of poppy tea, and it seems that i have become physically addicted to the seeds within this tea. I do not see this as a problem, as God has graciously given these poppies to us in order that we can glorify his name. However i was wondering whether it would be a sin to synthesize the chemical that i have become addicted to from over the counter medicines.

I understand that it is not a sin to take from the plant, but is it a sin to make it yourself?

I await your answers with baited breath my brothers and sisters in the lord.

[Nobar King]

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You're just a no-good drug addict and a dope fiend. Not all seeds are made for eating. Some are poisonous- do you eat those?

[FoundGirlJNB]

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Genesis C1, V29. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.


So recently I have been drinking a lot of poppy tea, and it seems that i have become physically addicted to the seeds within this tea. I do not see this as a problem, as God has graciously given these poppies to us in order that we can glorify his name. However i was wondering whether it would be a sin to synthesize the chemical that i have become addicted to from over the counter medicines.

I understand that it is not a sin to take from the plant, but is it a sin to make it yourself?

I await your answers with baited breath my brothers and sisters in the lord.

Hmmm. A looong time ago before I met God, I used to drink opium tea on the odd occasion. Is poppy tea not the same as opium tea?

You are talking about producing and soliciting drugs, aren't you?

To that I can only say Thank God you are in Scotland, America does not need another drug smuggling scum like you.

You do realize Lucifer was the angel of music and plants. Hence music and drugs (from plants) are so commonly used to snare good Christians.

STAY AWAY from that, or STAY AWAY from us!!

[fusefag]

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You're just a no-good drug addict and a dope fiend. Not all seeds are made for eating. Some are poisonous- do you eat those?

I thought you guys were big into the bible quotes here? Where in the bible does it say that drug addicts are no-good? Where in the bible does it say that I cannot enter the gates of heaven having eaten the seeds that the lord has so graciously given me?

[fusefag]

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Is poppy tea not the same as opium tea?

It is

You are talking about producing and soliciting drugs, aren't you?

Producing something artificially that the Lord our God has provided to us

To that I can only say Thank God you are in Scotland, America does not need another drug smuggling scum like you.

Who said anything about smuggling anything? I assume that you are not so ignorant as to be insunuating that a born again Christian would do something illegal, I am merely practicing my God given right. If the Holy one did not intend for us to use these plants then why put them on the earth? When he handed down his holy word, why not remove this verse, if it is not true?

[Levi Jones]

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I thought you guys were big into the bible quotes here? Where in the bible does it say that drug addicts are no-good? Where in the bible does it say that I cannot enter the gates of heaven having eaten the seeds that the lord has so graciously given me?

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Peter 1:17-19
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1 Thessalonians 5:4-8
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

1 Peter 4:7
But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.

Titus 2:12
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

[Levi Jones]

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If the Holy one did not intend for us to use these plants then why put them on the earth? When he handed down his holy word, why not remove this verse, if it is not true?

I suppose smoking tobacco is okay to you because God put it here for us, even though it destroys the body. Do I have that right?

[fusefag]

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I suppose smoking tobacco is okay to you because God put it here for us, even though it destroys the body. Do I have that right?

Yes, that is correct, raw tobacco, marijuana, opium and LSA were all created by God, in order that we can experience his creation in many altered states of conciousness. cigarettes however are full of man made chemicals and are therefore a sin.

[Levi Jones]

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Yes, that is correct, raw tobacco, marijuana, opium and LSA were all created by God, in order that we can experience his creation in many altered states of conciousness. cigarettes however are full of man made chemicals and are therefore a sin.

What about the exhortations that we be sober?


I also have a friend I would like to introduce you to. This is what is ironically named the teddy bear by desert dwellers.

Makes you want to go give it a big hug, doesn't it? This plant is designed by God to stick its victim and then break away from the plant, making it virtually impossible to remove until you can go get some tools and gloves.

I would invite you to go have a big hit off it, Mr. Use all the plants. Maybe you could follow it up with a nice nightshade salad topped with mistletoe berries.

[JennyD]

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I thought you guys were big into the bible quotes here? Where in the bible does it say that drug addicts are no-good? Where in the bible does it say that I cannot enter the gates of heaven having eaten the seeds that the lord has so graciously given me?

Tell me, how is your doping yourself up helping you to glorify God?

Is it not true that you are doing it for your own pleasure instead of as an act of service to Him?

In that case, it is sin.

[FoundGirlJNB]

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in many altered states of consciousness.

Which of the Bible verses our good Brother Levi pointed out about being of sober mind did you not quite grasp, dope-head?

[fusefag]

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So is it not then the case that that the scriptures must be contradicting themselves?

That Jesus turned water into wine, and yet the scriptures do not condone the drinking of the wine? ( due to its rather unsober properties) That God himself says I give you all of these plants to eat, and then takes it back, saying that you shouldn't eat the ones that make you feel good? The ones that take away your pain? I don't think that's what was meant at all. in the end up, none of us can read the bible in the language in which it was originally written, and the men who physically wrote the bible were no more infallible than any other. All sinners, all imperfect vessels. So who knows what was really meant by this?

Try it for yourself, pass your favorite bible verse through any online translator, into french and then back into English. Chances are that it now makes a lot less sense. We are talking abut a book that must have been translated a dozen times before making it into the KJV that you now hold so sacred.

I've gone a bit off topic now, but I've just had a cup of tea, so you'll excuse me if I've diverted from the point a little

[Nobar King]

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Biblical scriptures do not contradict themselves. You are most certainly experiencing drug-brain confusion and can't understand what you're reading or writing.

Take a few days to sober up and then you might be able to see what the Bible is really saying.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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So is it not then the case that that the scriptures must be contradicting themselves?

Not so. The AV1611 KJV Bible is inerrant and perfect in every way.

That Jesus turned water into wine, and yet the scriptures do not condone the drinking of the wine? ( due to its rather unsober properties)

Alcoholism is clearly stated as a sin in the Bible. Wine is okay, provided it is drank only in moderation (perhaps a glass with a meal) and not drunken to excess.

That God himself says I give you all of these plants to eat, and then takes it back, saying that you shouldn't eat the ones that make you feel good? The ones that take away your pain? I don't think that's what was meant at all. in the end up, none of us can read the bible in the language in which it was originally written, and the men who physically wrote the bible were no more infallible than any other. All sinners, all imperfect vessels. So who knows what was really meant by this?

Try it for yourself, pass your favorite bible verse through any online translator, into french and then back into English. Chances are that it now makes a lot less sense. We are talking abut a book that must have been translated a dozen times before making it into the KJV that you now hold so sacred.

Okay, an online translator =/= talented, professional human translators who can understand nuances and figures of speech. We know the Bible is perfectly preserved to us in American because the Bible says so.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psalm 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I thought you guys were big into the bible quotes here? Where in the bible does it say that drug addicts are no-good? Where in the bible does it say that I cannot enter the gates of heaven having eaten the seeds that the lord has so graciously given me?

This has already been covered extensively in other threads. Drug addicts like you are usually queers and vote for Democrats too, so Jesus has no use for you.


Stop wasting God's precious bandwidth, and stop pushing dope on our Christian forum.