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i'm not sure if you're familiar with the gilgamesh-epos (GE). so i give you a short update. the GE is sumerian epos about one of their kings called gilgamesh. it resembles in many part what's written in the bible (formost the noah story...) yet almost 3000 years older! the sumerians were living in south ancient mesopotamia, no called iraq.
the epos goes like this: in the beginning there were higher, ancient gods and lower, helping gods. the lower gods were supposed to work for the higher gods and thus dug the first two cannels on earth...the euphrates and the tigris (two rivers flowing through iraq). but the work of the lower gods was hard and since they were so many they rebelled against the higher gods. civil war was on the brink!
eventually the god of wisdom came up with a solution. let's form "humans" out of the mud, give them a soul (= bringing them to live) and let them do the work. for many years this worked well but man forgot about woreshipping and got negligent. the gods got angry! they eventually came up with the plan to wipe out all humanity!...except for gilgamesh the rightful king of the sumerians, who respected the gods. so they went to work and let a huge flood coming to wash mankind away. the flood was covering the earth for many days........................and the gods were slowly beginning to feel hungry for they had nothing to eat, no one who worked for them, harvested crops etc. they finally began mourning about what they have done. they were almost starved to death.
when gilgamesh first set foot on dry earth he made an offering to the gods and they "were ravenously revolving around it like flies"!!! they came to realize that they actually became dependend on man! as a god could die when there was nobody to woreship him anymore. well, not really die, but become so insignificant, powerless that he's not recognizable anymore. so gods and man struck a plan. the gods will guide man through wisdom while the man will woreship the gods and supply them with offerings (prayers). this is where the little story ends.
now ask yourself the question again. why would god want me to believe in him? ok, he loves me, i love him...we live happily ever after. but why is he so obsessed with making me believe in him, better why does he not want me to woreship other gods? or, why does he want me to throw in hell for all eternity if i don't believe in him? JHWH is one of those gods and seized control! he rewrote history by dictating the bible! making us believe he is almighty, everlasting... in this light everything makes perfect sense. he loves me unconditionally, but first i have to execpt him and ONLY him! what does he care if i pray to an idol which is powerless if not that it becomes powerfull through my prayers?
is he envious, trying to maintain his power? so that's what he gets from us, that's his part of the bargain. he gets powerfull through us. since no god can ever really die he has always to fear that the other ones are comming back...reclaiming their position, which would lead to the conclusion that actually god is not the only one.
or is he even man made, came into being through our prayers, vanishing if the memory of him vanishes...eventually dieing?
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OF COURSE THESE ARE DEVILISH THOUGHTS BUT WHAT THEN IS THE REASON GOD WANTS ME TO BELIEVE IN HIM OR WILL ME HAVE THROWN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY...maybe he can't even do so!
think about it and answer me quickly please,
vadkutya
DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING IS SUSPECTED TO BE
DON'T READ THE COMMENT IF YOU DON'T FEEL OVERLY CONSOLIDATED IN YOUR BELIEVE!!!================================================== =
i'm not sure if you're familiar with the gilgamesh-epos (GE). so i give you a short update. the GE is sumerian epos about one of their kings called gilgamesh. it resembles in many part what's written in the bible (formost the noah story...) yet almost 3000 years older! the sumerians were living in south ancient mesopotamia, no called iraq.
the epos goes like this: in the beginning there were higher, ancient gods and lower, helping gods. the lower gods were supposed to work for the higher gods and thus dug the first two cannels on earth...the euphrates and the tigris (two rivers flowing through iraq). but the work of the lower gods was hard and since they were so many they rebelled against the higher gods. civil war was on the brink!
eventually the god of wisdom came up with a solution. let's form "humans" out of the mud, give them a soul (= bringing them to live) and let them do the work. for many years this worked well but man forgot about woreshipping and got negligent. the gods got angry! they eventually came up with the plan to wipe out all humanity!...except for gilgamesh the rightful king of the sumerians, who respected the gods. so they went to work and let a huge flood coming to wash mankind away. the flood was covering the earth for many days........................and the gods were slowly beginning to feel hungry for they had nothing to eat, no one who worked for them, harvested crops etc. they finally began mourning about what they have done. they were almost starved to death.
when gilgamesh first set foot on dry earth he made an offering to the gods and they "were ravenously revolving around it like flies"!!! they came to realize that they actually became dependend on man! as a god could die when there was nobody to woreship him anymore. well, not really die, but become so insignificant, powerless that he's not recognizable anymore. so gods and man struck a plan. the gods will guide man through wisdom while the man will woreship the gods and supply them with offerings (prayers). this is where the little story ends.
now ask yourself the question again. why would god want me to believe in him? ok, he loves me, i love him...we live happily ever after. but why is he so obsessed with making me believe in him, better why does he not want me to woreship other gods? or, why does he want me to throw in hell for all eternity if i don't believe in him? JHWH is one of those gods and seized control! he rewrote history by dictating the bible! making us believe he is almighty, everlasting... in this light everything makes perfect sense. he loves me unconditionally, but first i have to execpt him and ONLY him! what does he care if i pray to an idol which is powerless if not that it becomes powerfull through my prayers?
is he envious, trying to maintain his power? so that's what he gets from us, that's his part of the bargain. he gets powerfull through us. since no god can ever really die he has always to fear that the other ones are comming back...reclaiming their position, which would lead to the conclusion that actually god is not the only one.
or is he even man made, came into being through our prayers, vanishing if the memory of him vanishes...eventually dieing?
================================================== =
OF COURSE THESE ARE DEVILISH THOUGHTS BUT WHAT THEN IS THE REASON GOD WANTS ME TO BELIEVE IN HIM OR WILL ME HAVE THROWN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY...maybe he can't even do so!
think about it and answer me quickly please,
vadkutya
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. well still haven't decided.
though i think this is disputed.
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