[Brother Phil (Quarantined)]

Re: Racism

PRAISE JESUS!

Again... its hard to ass-whole people in to doing anything! Ok so you can read me a scripture or two. Read me one that says that Jesus is ok with you being a complete bastard to bring people to him! You make Christians look like scum. When you talk to people like this... they don’t really care what you say. I know that you think that Jesus smiles when you are a complete ass whole to someone because you think that it will save their soul... but if Jesus can be such a wonderful person and role model how could he ever condone your practices.

Yes i agree that people should know that the Lord does not approve of what they are doing... but who put it in your hands to let them know. The Lord said “It is mine to judge and mine to avenge" Why is that now your job. You Judge everyone based on YOUR own beliefs. It is not your place to say that someone is right or wrong. Your job is to lead them to Christ. It is their own charge and their own responsibility to discover their wrongs, repent, and to change their ways. You have no position of authority over anyone.

If God is God and Never changes... how do we have a NEW Testament?

And lastly, where in the Bible does it say that Faith is not a personal thing?

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Racism

Again... its hard to ass-whole people in to doing anything! Ok so you can read me a scripture or two. Read me one that says that Jesus is ok with you being a complete bastard to bring people to him! You make Christians look like scum. When you talk to people like this... they don’t really care what you say. I know that you think that Jesus smiles when you are a complete ass whole to someone because you think that it will save their soul... but if Jesus can be such a wonderful person and role model how could he ever condone your practices.

Yes i agree that people should know that the Lord does not approve of what they are doing... but who put it in your hands to let them know. The Lord said “It is mine to judge and mine to avenge" Why is that now your job. You Judge everyone based on YOUR own beliefs. It is not your place to say that someone is right or wrong. Your job is to lead them to Christ. It is their own charge and their own responsibility to discover their wrongs, repent, and to change their ways. You have no position of authority over anyone.

If God is God and Never changes... how do we have a NEW Testament?

And lastly, where in the Bible does it say that Faith is not a personal thing?

Lookit, homer.....it is not our job to read the Bible to you. Read it yourself. THEN come back and beg for forgiveness.

[Brother Phil (Quarantined)]

Re: Racism

Lookit, homer.....it is not our job to read the Bible to you. Read it yourself. THEN come back and beg for forgiveness.

Well if you would stop making false claims about what the Bible said maybe we could have a civilized conversation! I don’t want the Bible read to me... but if you make outrageous claims you need substantiating evidence. Or else your argument is just pointless.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Racism

Again... its hard to ass-whole people in to doing anything! Ok so you can read me a scripture or two. Read me one that says that Jesus is ok with you being a complete bastard to bring people to him!

I don't need a specific verse for that, I only do as Jesus commands. THAT'S IT.
If Jesus thought acting like me was bad, then why would He command it?

We're not forcing anyone, Jesus Christ has offered them a choice:
Aceept Him or burn in hell.

It's that simple.

You make Christians look like scum.

No, it's you false feel-goody so-called Christians who make us look weak, stupid, and without any holy spirit.

When you talk to people like this... they don’t really care what you say. I know that you think that Jesus smiles when you are a complete ass whole to someone because you think that it will save their soul... but if Jesus can be such a wonderful person and role model how could he ever condone your practices.

Read the Bible, He commands us to not fellowship with the unsaved.
Christ has no concord with Belial, we who believe have none with the disbelievers.

And Christ will kill all the infidels PERSONALLY at judgment day, before feeding their flesh to all the birds of the sky.
Just read Revelation!

Everyone shall be judged according to their works, so it's time to put in work for Jesus, friend.
Stop being a lukewarm falsely so called "christian" or Jesus will spue you out of His holy mouth!

Yes i agree that people should know that the Lord does not approve of what they are doing...

Good, let me tell you:
The Lord does NOT approve of your words here.

but who put it in your hands to let them know. The Lord said “It is mine to judge and mine to avenge" Why is that now your job.

We are commanded to judge.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1 Corinthians 2:15

You Judge everyone based on YOUR own beliefs.

No, we judge them according to Gods word as found in the Bible.

It is not your place to say that someone is right or wrong.

We only pass on Gods standards of right and wrong, we don't make up those standards ourselfs.

Your job is to lead them to Christ.

That we do.

It is their own charge and their own responsibility to discover their wrongs, repent, and to change their ways. You have no position of authority over anyone.

Exactly. When did we ever tell anyone to repent to US?
Never, stop spewing false accusations at us.

If God is God and Never changes... how do we have a NEW Testament?

Are you one of those who believes the new testament nullifes the old? The New testament is an addition, not a change.

And lastly, where in the Bible does it say that Faith is not a personal thing?

Well, try the quote I gave earlier..
There is obviously only ONE way; Jesus.

And the Bible tells us that whoever does not do as Jesus has commanded is a liar who does not know Him.

Please repent to the Lord for posting this blasphemy, Phil.

[Brother Phil (Quarantined)]

Re: Racism

Please repent to the Lord for posting this blasphemy, Phil.

I wouldn't Say nullify, but I do believe that it amended the Old. If not then we would still be sacrificing Goats.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Racism

I wouldn't Say nullify, but I do believe that it amended the Old.

And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Luke 16:17

As for sacrifices, we have experience a single, but infinitly better sacrifice, Jesus temporarily laid down His life.
Thus we don't NEED to sacrifice animals anymore... His sacrifice is everlasting, as He is timeless.

So that's hardly a change, as you can still sacrifice a few if you want to.
Good job avoiding all my other arguments btw.

[Brother Phil (Quarantined)]

Re: Racism

And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Luke 16:17

As for sacrifices, we have experience a single, but infinitly better sacrifice, Jesus temporarily laid down His life.
Thus we don't NEED to sacrifice animals anymore... His sacrifice is everlasting, as He is timeless.

So that's hardly a change, as you can still sacrifice a few if you want to.
Good job avoiding all my other arguments btw.

Well i am kinda returning the favor by avoiding your arguments... you avoided thinking on the my other post. I asked if you thought that being nice to people would ultimatly lead more people to christ... and instead of giving me an answer you gave me what your Pastors have brainwashed you to think.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Racism

I'm not sure that we necessarily want to bring TOO many people to Christ, since that would lessen the value of the Gift that God has Given us. And really, do you really want Heaven to have the mexican-overpopulation that is plaguing America today??

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Racism

Well i am kinda returning the favor by avoiding your arguments... you avoided thinking on the my other post. I asked if you thought that being nice to people would ultimatly lead more people to christ... and instead of giving me an answer you gave me what your Pastors have brainwashed you to think.

Once again you come with these baseless accusations, our Pastors preach right out of the Bible;
The unadultured word of God.

We don't make anything up here, it's all in the holy Bible!
I don't need a Pastor to read the holy KJV1611, I read it long before I became a member of the congregation.

The Pastors are simply more learned than the rest of us, they have usually spent their whole life studying the holy Bible.
They share its knowledge to the less learned amongst the congregation and they travel on missionary trips.

They are men with little in the way of possessions and much in the way of holy spirit.
They have given up a material, earthly life, in order to lead people to Christ.
So I would ask you to show them the proper respect.


As for your "question".. If "being nice to people" means lying to them, then I won't approve of it. And neither would God.
If you truly care about someone then you tell them the truth, you can't save someone from hell by denying its existance like some antichrist pope!

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Racism

I wouldn't Say nullify, but I do believe that it amended the Old. If not then we would still be sacrificing Goats.

Sorry, not one word in the Old Testament was changed by JESUS, and He said so. You must look it up yourself. You were clearly sent here to learn the Bible.

We are washed in the blood of the Lamb, but we still sacrifice to the lord. It is more common in modern times for parishioners to sacrifice their hard earned cash in the donation plate and we Pastors convert their individual devotions into one. You see, having fifteen thousand people sacrificing a dove or lamb every Sunday is no longer appropriate. GOD accepts that their hearts are in the right place and that most people are no longer farmers. God demands one tenth. Sometimes that is in the form of money, sometimes cattle, sometimes something else depending upon the circumstances of each tither.

[Poetic Peter]

Re: Racism

Sorry, not one word in the Old Testament was changed by JESUS, and He said so. You must look it up yourself. You were clearly sent here to learn the Bible.

We are washed in the blood of the Lamb, but we still sacrifice to the lord. It is more common in modern times for parishioners to sacrifice their hard earned cash in the donation plate and we Pastors convert their individual devotions into one. You see, having fifteen thousand people sacrificing a dove or lamb every Sunday is no longer appropriate. GOD accepts that their hearts are in the right place and that most people are no longer farmers. God demands one tenth. Sometimes that is in the form of money, sometimes cattle, sometimes something else depending upon the circumstances of each tither.

Well and gently put, Pastor.

As an example of alternate-form giving,
I tithed my entire historical stamp collection.

I have little lucre to tithe (I am a disabled
poet).
But my stamps, mostly passed down from Grandmother Peter, are priceless.

So I gave up ALL, and am so glad of it.


These Glories now work
toward Landover's great goals

http://www.studioz-7.com/stamps1.shtml

learn how and stick it

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Racism

Again... its hard to ass-whole people in to doing anything! Ok so you can read me a scripture or two. Read me one that says that Jesus is ok with you being a complete bastard to bring people to him!

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
You may have some queer hippy ambition to be friends with everyone in the world. Bully for you. We are not friends of the world and enemies of God, we are friends of God and enemies of the world. And if you've got a problem with that, well, that just proves we're right and you're wrong.

You make Christians look like scum. When you talk to people like this... they don’t really care what you say. I know that you think that Jesus smiles when you are a complete ass whole to someone because you think that it will save their soul... but if Jesus can be such a wonderful person and role model how could he ever condone your practices.

Friend, you appear to have Jesus mixed up with John Lennon. Let me explain the difference:
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Think hard about what JESUS is saying there. He sounds like one of us, doesn't He?

Yes i agree that people should know that the Lord does not approve of what they are doing... but who put it in your hands to let them know. The Lord said “It is mine to judge and mine to avenge" Why is that now your job. You Judge everyone based on YOUR own beliefs. It is not your place to say that someone is right or wrong. Your job is to lead them to Christ. It is their own charge and their own responsibility to discover their wrongs, repent, and to change their ways. You have no position of authority over anyone.

1 Corinthians 5:11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Sounds pretty laidback and non-judgemental to me.

And lastly, where in the Bible does it say that Faith is not a personal thing?

I dunno... maybe the bit where it commands the execution of non-believers? That doesn't sound very libertarian.
2 Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

[tommy]

Re: Racism

Racism is bad, when a black person gets a jobs only for the qouta's sake.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Racism

Well and gently put, Pastor.

As an example of alternate-form giving,
I tithed my entire historical stamp collection.

I have little lucre to tithe (I am a disabled
poet).
But my stamps, mostly passed down from Grandmother Peter, are priceless.

So I gave up ALL, and am so glad of it.


These Glories now work
toward Landover's great goals

http://www.studioz-7.com/stamps1.shtml

learn how and stick it

A little background question: back when Remy was a negro converting to God's Favorite Race, did he tithe from his food stamp collection that all blacks seem to have an endless supply of? I am not all that familiar with the methods of converting races AND religion at the same time, but it seems appropriate!

[Jesus is Lord]

Re: Racism

A little background question: back when Remy was a negro converting to God's Favorite Race, did he tithe from his food stamp collection that all blacks seem to have an endless supply of? I am not all that familiar with the methods of converting races AND religion at the same time, but it seems appropriate!

As far as I know Brother Remy has never been a full negro. He's said before that for generations his family ha sbeen working to fully purge negro blood from their line.