[Wash O'Hanley]

Re: Wives are not playthings

As husbands it is our duty...

Up until this part of your post I was convinced you were a woman. Now I'm convinced you're a fag.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Next read Ephessians 5:25-29

my bible says "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her."(5:25) How did Christ show his love for the church? he died for it, to save it. Are any of you willing to die for your wife? If you are responsible for her sins and her actions, and you feel it is your right to punish her, where do you take your own responsabilty? If you stike her, you ought to strike yourself. after all it is half your fault isnt it?

What a typical pick-and-choose Christian you are. Once you're done lecturing us on Ephesians 5:25-29, skip back three whole verses to Eph. 5:22 and start reading. Tell us what you find there.

[loveistheKey]

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"Wives submit to your husbands" yeah, has to do with how wives should treat their husbands. But I believe we are talking about how husbands should treat their wives?
So i chose to pick out Eph 5:25, reading 5:22 does not change how a husband should treat his wife. Does not give a husband ultimate authority over her or her body. Is not her body also a temple of God, just as yours is? then what right do we have to damage or hurt, physically or emotionally, God's temple?

[loveistheKey]

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Up until this part of your post I was convinced you were a woman. Now I'm convinced you're a fag.

thank you for immediately insulting and demeaning me, if you dont mind explaining how that is christian behavior?

If you would like to provide constructive information or thoughts to this conversation feel free. otherwise i ask again, please be respectful.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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thank you for immediately insulting and demeaning me, if you dont mind explaining how that is christian behavior?

If you would like to provide constructive information or thoughts to this conversation feel free. otherwise i ask again, please be respectful.

What part of "UNSAVED, UNWELCOME" don't you understand, nancy?

[loveistheKey]

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What part of "UNSAVED, UNWELCOME" don't you understand, nancy?

I believe in the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, I believe that He was crucified, died, and rose again. So that we too may be saved from death through Him.

what makes me unsaved? because i believe in love? in compassion? In a love demonstrated by God, by Christ himself for all the peoples of the Earth? Did Christ sit and eat only with the righteous? No, he came to save the sinners, and it is with the sinners he talked to, showed love to, and offered a 2nd chance?

shouldn't you be as forgiving? As Christians is it not Christ's command to follow in his footsteps? We are a representation of God's love on this Earth, instead of selfishness we should show selflessness. Instead of hate we should show love. ask yourself, what does the world see when you say "unsaved unwelcome"? do they see the love of God? or the hate of those that would call themselves "His people"?

let me give you a different veiwpoint. You say ppl go to hell because they dont believe in Christ. Not True. People go to hell because they have sinned, and the result of sin is death, this is the law (read the whole book of romans basically). what God did was show up on earth and say "because I love you, I am going to save you from the law, by dieing for you, thus fullfilling the Law and allowing you to live. God gave us a way out. So you go to hell because of the law, but by God's mercy and grace you can be saved through belief in His Son, Jesus.

[Deaner]

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I work my wife like a rented mule and I've never heard her complain once. She washes clothes, sews, does yardwork, paints, looks after the kids, cleans the gutters, vacuums, irons and pushes my truck when I'm outta gas. That's just off the top of my head. Last night, as commanded, she ran right upstairs for her monthly fertilization.

I got me a helluva woman. I wish other people woulld just mind their own business.

[loveistheKey]

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I believe my work is done here.

oh, and food for thought.

if you tried to tell and unsaved person about Christ, and he simply said to you "mind your own business," how would you respond?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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"Wives submit to your husbands" yeah, has to do with how wives should treat their husbands. But I believe we are talking about how husbands should treat their wives?
So i chose to pick out Eph 5:25, reading 5:22 does not change how a husband should treat his wife. Does not give a husband ultimate authority over her or her body. Is not her body also a temple of God, just as yours is? then what right do we have to damage or hurt, physically or emotionally, God's temple?

Yes, of course Eph. 5:22 is relevant to how a husband should treat his wife. A husband has the God-given right to expect that his wife shall behave as outlined in Scripture and to react accordingly. How much sassing backtalk do you think Christ will tolerate from His church?

let me give you a different veiwpoint. You say ppl go to hell because they dont believe in Christ. Not True. People go to hell because they have sinned, and the result of sin is death, this is the law (read the whole book of romans basically). what God did was show up on earth and say "because I love you, I am going to save you from the law, by dieing for you, thus fullfilling the Law and allowing you to live. God gave us a way out. So you go to hell because of the law, but by God's mercy and grace you can be saved through belief in His Son, Jesus.

You're so close and yet so far. Yes, God has given us a way out, but we take that way out strictly on His terms:

Matt. 7:21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[Deaner]

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if you tried to tell and unsaved person about Christ, and he simply said to you "mind your own business," how would you respond?

I'd stamp the dust off my feet and move on. They can rot in hell for all I care.

[northernstudent]

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Is that you seriously in the picture deaner?

[Wide-Open]

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Is that you seriously in the picture deaner?

Careful now boy. You DON'T want to hurt his feelings, trust me.

[Deaner]

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Is that you seriously in the picture deaner?

Yes, that is seriously me. Where's your picture?

[H. Montague Worthington]

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I certainly do not think of my wife Delores as a "plaything." That's just plain offensive and demeaning. She's more of a "workhorse" than a "plaything."

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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what makes me unsaved? because i believe in love? in compassion? In a love demonstrated by God, by Christ himself for all the peoples of the Earth? Did Christ sit and eat only with the righteous? No, he came to save the sinners, and it is with the sinners he talked to, showed love to, and offered a 2nd chance?

You, Miss, are unsaved because you love only the parts of God you like.

God creates light, yes; but also darkness.

He is a man of War, and also of peace.

He creates good, and He creates evil.

You only love the loving part, and ignore the hating part. That means you are worshipping your own imagination, or yourself. You have created your own "god-like" idol in your mind, and worship that.

Idolatry is a sin, Miss.