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  • Enobarbus
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    Re: To all "true christians"

    Originally posted by Andrew Shaw View Post
    Yeah im with both of them on this.
    Plus the english language wasent made till a few hundred years after the bible was made..haha and jesus spoke hebrew :]
    Have you no idea of how many times this point has been gone over and over again on the Internet and elsewhere?

    I thought that historians generally believed that Jesus spoke Aramaic, too. Or perhaps you have some inside knowledge about this as well.

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  • Enobarbus
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    Originally posted by GuessImHellbound View Post
    Like Unsaved and Loving It stated, you just proved the fact that it was translated into English, so how does that make English God's language when his original word was written in Hebrew and Greek texts? Anyways, I still await answers to response questions to Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.
    The KJV1611 is the first divinely inspired version of the Bible. I don't know how many times we have to reiterate this. We know this because of what has been divinely made known to us. That the usaved will not grasp or understand it, is even mentioned in the Bible itself.

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  • Andrew Shaw
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    Yeah im with both of them on this.
    Plus the english language wasent made till a few hundred years after the bible was made..haha and jesus spoke hebrew :]

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  • YesImHellbound
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    Like Unsaved and Loving It stated, you just proved the fact that it was translated into English, so how does that make English God's language when his original word was written in Hebrew and Greek texts? Anyways, I still await answers to response questions to Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.

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  • Unsaved and Loving It
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    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    I would defy you to find one single post where any True Christian has claimed that the Bible was first written in English. All we have said is that The KJV1611 Bible is the only TRUE Bible in the world today. God Himself saw to it that it was translated 100% accurately, as He sees fit. The whole story is HERE. THIS is also worth a look.

    By the way, we are not the only Christians who follow the KJV1611 Authorized Bible. Most Christians use it exclusively. We are the only Church who follows it as the LITERAL Word of God.
    My point has just been proved. Graci Pastor Zeke

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Unsaved and Loving It View Post
    Ironically, the bible has also been translated from thousands of languages. I'm not here to try and make you believe the English bible didn't come first. I'm just stating it since ignorance can be healed with knowledge. The right type.
    I would defy you to find one single post where any True Christian has claimed that the Bible was first written in English. All we have said is that The KJV1611 Bible is the only TRUE Bible in the world today. God Himself saw to it that it was translated 100% accurately, as He sees fit. The whole story is HERE. THIS is also worth a look.

    By the way, we are not the only Christians who follow the KJV1611 Authorized Bible. Most Christians use it exclusively. We are the only Church who follows it as the LITERAL Word of God.

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  • Unsaved and Loving It
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    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    The Holy Bible has been translated into thousands of languages, fool. Leave it to you to choose the one for homers.
    Ironically, the bible has also been translated from thousands of languages. I'm not here to try and make you believe the English bible didn't come first. I'm just stating it since ignorance can be healed with knowledge. The right type.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Unsaved and Loving It View Post
    "ὁ πιστεύσας καὶ βαπτισθεὶς σωθήσεται, ὁ δὲ ἀπιστήσας κατακριθήσεται"

    Your own signature, Pastor. Mark 16:16. Just as it was originally written in the New Testament. But what language is it? *gasps*! It's not English! It's GREEK!
    The Holy Bible has been translated into thousands of languages, fool. Leave it to you to choose the one for homers.

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  • Unsaved and Loving It
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    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    Prove it.
    "ὁ πιστεύσας καὶ βαπτισθεὶς σωθήσεται, ὁ δὲ ἀπιστήσας κατακριθήσεται"

    Your own signature, Pastor. Mark 16:16. Just as it was originally written in the New Testament. But what language is it? *gasps*! It's not English! It's GREEK!

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Joo View Post

    Not to mention, um...the Bible wasn't originally written by white people, so yeah...they didn't make it either, the original bibles were written in Hebrew, with some in Aramaic.
    Prove it.

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  • Joo
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    Originally posted by Betty Lambskin View Post
    White people made:
    • Jesus
    • THe Bible
    Seems unfair, I know!
    Sorry ma'am, but people didn't make Jesus. According to your own religion, God did that.

    Not to mention, um...the Bible wasn't originally written by white people, so yeah...they didn't make it either, the original bibles were written in Hebrew, with some in Aramaic.

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  • YesImHellbound
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    Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post
    It seems to me you've already asked and I've already answered this question. Are you going to keep asking it until you get an answer that blasphemes the Holy Spirit?
    No, I simply asked it again, because I was not satisified with your answer. As such, Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S. responded similarly as you had. And I had a question about your answers, which I posted in my response to his answers.

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  • Mrs. Mary Whitford
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    Originally posted by GuessImHellbound View Post
    Why doesn't prayer work, when the Bible promises that it will (John 14:14, for example)?
    It seems to me you've already asked and I've already answered this question. Are you going to keep asking it until you get an answer that blasphemes the Holy Spirit?

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  • YesImHellbound
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    Originally posted by Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S. View Post
    Well I am sure that if you spent less time in the public toilets and more time in the Word, you wouldn't have to ask someone else. Unless you're a woman, in which case it is more understandable.

    While I wish to thank you for at least responding to nearly all my questions, I have conflicting feelings to do so when you have to insult me for asking questions. Alas, I am grateful that you were nice enough to answer them.

    Well certainly there would be a temporary period of destruction (while the destroying is being done), then a permanent STATE of destruction. Remember, God uses English, and I know that that can be hard for you. You just need to learn context and how to understand His Word. That can only come with the Holy Spirit, and obviously He has not inhabited you yet!

    You realize you added words there. It says no such thing that there will be a "temporary PERIOD of destruction." It states Isaiah 23: 17 "And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the Lord will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth." As for God using English, the King James Version of The Bible was translated by Man from Hebrew and Greek texts. So much for him using English then.

    Prayer is always heard. However, the answer to prayer is often "no". Surely Jesus cannot always say "yes" to everything, because then the world would be a terrible place! Imagine if the average towel-head were to pray that he could mercilessly slaughter thousands -- would God say yes? Certainly not! He has a Plan for all mankind, and is executing it to perfection. He cannot allow you to screw it up!

    I want to say "sure, this makes sense," however you fail to show me when he is clearly saying yes and it is not proven some other way with science. While I understand the whole idea of him saying "no" what about the times he says "yes?"

    The Old Testament preaches that after we die there is nothing? The verse of which you spake is only talking about the bodies, not about the soul. Once the body expires, the soul is free to be judged by God and either welcomed into Heaven or sent directly to the pits of Hell.

    How does this talk about bodies from Ecclesiastes 9:5 "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." Please explain where it talks about the bodies you speak of.

    Everything God has ever done is perfect. Now humans screw up and God has to punish them, so sometimes He has to change tactics, but that doesn't mean that He has ever made a mistake. If the Law wasn't fit for sinful mankind, then He would have to change it. But both would be perfect, by definition.

    I am left a bit confused. I have seen posts in other threads where TC's claim such things such as your God being all-knowing, all-powerful, etc. However, here you say that for some reason he would have to "change tactics" when he supposedly foresees the errors of the human race. Why would he ever have to change tactics, wouldn't he already know what to do since he knows how we are going to be?
    Yet again, I await your answers, for they are most intriguing.

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  • WilliamJenningsBryan
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    Originally posted by Karmic Retribution View Post
    One. Uhm. Yeah. Chinks are Chinese. Shows how much you know about racial slang, eh?

    And two, Japan makes: Toshiba, Sony, Honda, Nissan, Nintendo, Kawasaki.

    Toshiba's are televisions and more're less other smaller products that coincide with technological advancements.

    Sony: MAkes playstations, games, dvd players, vcr's, televisions, speakers, headphones, phones, and more things that deal with small technological things.

    Honda: CARS

    Nissan: CARS

    Nintendo: Video game systems. Take the Wii, very advanced showing brainpower.

    Kawasaki: Motorcycles, other vehicles.

    This is only some ways they have product inflicting with our lives daily.

    I bet if you look for the tags on the things you buy or have bought that are technological, they say Made In Japan, Thailand, CHINA, and some other foreign sweatshops.

    Stooge.
    The Godly United States of America still leads the world in per capita GDP (Gross Domestic Product).

    Japan has experienced stagnant growth and four recessions since 1990, and their real estate prices have fallen to 1982 levels. Their banking system is saddled with bad debt that they refuse to write off, and they continue to refuse to reform their anti-capitalist business practices. And don't forget that Japans rise to economic power was the result of an American, W. Edwards Deming.

    Toshiba, Sony, Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Nintendo, Kawasaki all have US based manufacturing, design, and R&D centers (IBM manufactures the microprocessor for the Nintendo Wii). They all employ Americans, and utilize American based suppliers in their operations.

    The other thing you are missing is the vast store of wealth in American intellectual property (IP). All those "chips" by Intel, AMD, and Motorola, and the CDMA cell phone technology (used by Korea and China) all have royalty payments going to US corporations (CDMA by Qualcomm). The inferior European GSM system will be moving to CDMA technologies in their next generation systems. All those chips are manufactured with American designed equipment (US based Lamb Research produced the first practical plasma wafer etching machine).

    You are indeed the big stooge, an obvious by-product of the LIEbral education system. America will indeed decline with imbeciles like you running the country.
    Last edited by WilliamJenningsBryan; 06-23-2007, 12:24 AM.

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