[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I have done introduction.


I was making the point that sexuality and religious practices are often intertwined, this in many cultures.

We don't care about false religions and Godless foreign cultures. We care about Jesus.

[sun over land]

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I thought old people weren't even supposed to "do it". I read somewhere on here, I don't remember where, that doing it was only to make babies. So unless your old friend is still trying to make babies, he shouldn't be trying to do his wife.

Besides, old people doing that is totally gross!

ah! my dear you are so wrong about us older people, we can still enjoy each other.

[Citan]

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May I suggest a more effective communication?
I've seen and read all kinds of advice, but not once I've seen the "just call her out to a neutral ground and talk your issues through". Maybe she's afraid of something, perhaphs it's a painful experience for her or she's just bored with your performance.

There is a chance she just needs to remember why she married you and remember those first years of happiness and enjoyment in holy matrimony.

[HTannor]

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[QUOTE=Citan;358933].......... perhaphs it's a painful experience for her or she's just bored with your performance.
QUOTE]


Painful experience? She's just bored?


This sounds dangerously close to some sort of New Age philosophy.

Citan: once you have been saved and are no longer under investigation you will have seen the light and become much less concerned over "painful experiences and boredom."

[Citan]

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Mr Tannor, boredom and pain are perfectly natural human feelings. Of course when you ascend to heaven you will not feel them any more, but in the mean time why not make the physical body experience a more enjoyable one for your wife and yourself?
Your manhood might be... how to put it in G-rated terms... of a great girth? I really don't know, but she seems to avoid the situation because it causes a discomfort for her. And shouldn't a man be merciful to his wife? Being she's been good in all fields but this one in particular?

[Citan]

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You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forums.

Reason: Attempting to recruit our children to paganism

I'm sorry but I couldn't reply to this by private means since that option has been blocked for me.

I've seem to have crossed some sort of line here, which I wasn't aware of and I apologize for that. What is pagan about my previous post?

[Meek and Humble]

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Your New-Age philosophy. This is a Christian forum. Apology accepted

[Citan]

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Ok, thank you for accepting my sincere apology.

I don't consider myself New Age or anything. Was it mentioning pain and boredom offensive? And if so, why? I'm afraid I don't understand how that is anti-christian.

[Meek and Humble]

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You are suggesting sexual relations should be not be painful and boring. That's not Christian (note the capital) at all.

[Citan]

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Wow! I didn't know that.
Out of curiosity: Where in KJV 1611 does it say that it should? Since you know more of the word of God than I do, and I don't want to cross that line again.

[Meek and Humble]

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God does not want us to enjoy sexual relations.

Genesis 3:16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

[Citan]

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Oh.. but wasn't that the penalty of the original sin? Which Christ washed away with his sacrifice?
And besides I found another verse in KJV1611 that would prove my point:

Ecclesiastes, Qoh
[9] Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.

That is clearly the wish of God to have a joyful matrimony.

[Meek and Humble]

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Jesus did not wash away original sin with His sacrifice. Original sin is washed away in Baptism. But that is not just punishment for original sin (which simply means that people are born completely evil), it is an unending curse upon the world, caused by the expulsion from paradise. If Jesus' washed it away, why does it still hurt when women have children?

And yes, joyful matrimony. It does not mention sex. A couple has to be happy in spite of sex.

[Citan]

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If Jesus' washed it away, why does it still hurt when women have children?

We're bipedal creatures, which means the femurs are located right beneath the hips. In birth, the hips displace to let the baby pass through, which causes the excruciating pain for our female companions. This doesn't happen in any other creature because other mammals walk around in all-fours and the other bipedal creatures lay eggs.

And yes, joyful matrimony. It does not mention sex. A couple has to be happy in spite of sex.

Sex *is* a part of the holy matrimony, it is the means of becoming fruitiful and multiply.

[Citan]

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And found another passage where it says that if you truly accept Jesus in your heart, you will be cleansed of ALL sin

1John.1

1. [7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
2. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.