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  • Brother Temperance
    Senior Usher
    True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
    A very nice young man
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 15621

    #1

    Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

    In yet another sign that we are living through the End Times, the liberal media is actually now presenting whoredoms and fornications in a positive light! Read on, and prepare to be disgusted...
    Meet the perverts – a growing band of people who believe that more sodomy and less Jesus equals more love

    It's the age-old story: boy meets girl, boy marries girl, boy meets another girl and they all live together happily ever after.

    A minority group for those who find strength in numbers. A community for people who like their intimate lives communal. Polyamory – the practice of openly engaging in multiple loving relationships – acquired its name in the 1990s, and has been gaining ground as a recognised lifestyle and movement ever since. With the UK's first "poly" website just launched, and Polyday taking place in London later this month, it seems there's never been a better time for "ethical non-monogamists" to stand up and be counted. (Typical media lies - they are not Christians, so how can they be ethical?)

    Let's clear up a few things first. This isn't polygamy, where one person (usually male) has numerous spouses who cannot pursue other liaisons themselves. Nor is it swinging or adultery; polyamorists aren't into cheating or one-night wife-swaps. It also differs from the hippie notion of "free love", which was primarily about enjoying sex. And it's a bit more specific than an "open relationship". What polys want – not so different from the rest of us – are ongoing, honest, committed relationships. But with several people at once.
    The internet has helped them hugely on this quest, allowing individuals who might otherwise never meet to form vast, wide-ranging networks and communities. Through forums, chatrooms and niche dating sites, they can share advice, discuss sexual politics and even find new partners.
    In the UK alone, there are thought to be several thousand enthusiasts. In July, Britain got its first dedicated poly website when Graham Nicholls founded www.polyamory.org.uk. "The whole community was calling out for a main information site," says the 34-year-old artist from west London, currently in a "triad" with two female partners. "It uses podcasts, video interviews and photos, and will hopefully raise consciousness about polyamory in a positive way."
    On the internet was where Clair Lewis, 36, from Manchester, discovered the "p" word. "I've been polyamorous since the age of 19, but for the first few years I didn't know there were others like me, or that there was a language for it. There are still no role models; you never see polys in soaps."
    Lewis is now national convenor for CAAN – the Consenting Adult Action Network – which campaigns for "the rights of consenting adults to make their own sexual choices, without interference from government", and she regularly uses the internet to make contact with other poly protesters.
    Of course, polys don't interact solely in cyberspace. As their lifestyle and beliefs suggest, they want to meet as many folk as possible in the flesh. New York's Poly Pride Weekend offers a picnic, rally and "cuddle party" every October. Britain doesn't yet host such a large or high-profile event, but around 300 attendees are expected at Polyday, a day of talks, workshops, socialising and "sex-positive cabaret" in central London on 26 September.
    Organising the day this year is south London-based illustrator Maxine Green, 27. So what can those who attend expect? "The activities include a cartooning workshop and a spirituality discussion, and are divided into three threads: beginners, advanced and open to all," she explains. "We also hope to have an 'agony aunt' session." Cartooning? Yes, enthusiasts will interpret polyamory through drawing.
    Not surprisingly, jealousy and time management are perennial Polyday subjects, but another hot topic is politics. "British polys are often into alternative lifestyles and politics, and tend to be more radical and progressive than American polys," says Nicholls. "Some even identify themselves as 'relationship anarchists'."
    One such politically-driven poly is Owen Briggs, a 33- year-old gardener from Nottingham. "I believe in trying ' to break down power hierarchies in society, and that means breaking them down in my personal life as well," he says. "If I wish to try to allow others to be free, why would I want to control the people I love and care most about?" (This is what socialised healthcare leads to, people. Socialism ruins everything!)
    Anarchic approaches to relationships also abound on the "queer" poly scene, which, as Johanna Samuelson and her primary partner Jonathan David explain, is a little different from the standard gay scene. "It's an inclusive, activist community which sees beyond the divide between male and female, hetero and homo," says Samuelson, a 27-year-old postgraduate student from Brighton. "When you start exploring your gender, you may also start exploring your sexuality," adds David, a 26-year-old musician who identifies himself as transgender, and feels that there is less acceptance of polyamory in more conventional gay circles.
    Polys often credit the gay-rights movement with paving the way for them in terms of gaining respect and recognition. "It has brought alternative relationships into the public eye," believes Lewis. But many individuals still choose to keep their uncustomary set-ups private. Stuart, 44, Kaye, 43, and Ben, 25 (not their real names), are "out" to close friends and some family members, yet, despite their idyllic and highly domesticated existence – they all live together in west London with Kaye and Stuart's four children, seven chickens and two dogs, sharing bank accounts, the car and a bed – they fear that going public about their three-way relationship could jeopardise their jobs. (They sodomise what now? This is sickening!)

    They don't, however, hide away. "The kids all find Ben's presence quite natural," says Kaye, "and we go out for dinner and on holiday together. My eldest daughter, who's 19, has coped really well, considering she's a teenager." What about school-gate gossip? "Things have really moved on," she explains. "My children's school no longer makes presumptions about numbers (or genders) of parents. The forms they bring home simply ask, 'Who's in your family?'"

    Nevertheless, non-monogamy remains very much a taboo in Western culture, where for hundreds of years our core values have revolved around exclusive pairings and the traditional nuclear family. Polys who are open about their lifestyles inevitably face prejudices. "At times I've felt really isolated and lonely," says Luisa Miller, a 26-year-old event organiser from north London. "People can assume it's just about sex, and having 'piffle buddies'. Despite what you'd think, it's often harder to find relationships, because there aren't a lot of people who are OK with polyamory." David agrees that the poly ethos is too frequently misunderstood: "It gets portrayed as greedy, selfish and over-sexualised."
    Males tend to encounter the most suspicion. "There's this perception that it's just a way for men to get their end away," says Nicholls. "In actual fact, the movement has risen out of third-wave feminism, and the first five significant books on the subject have all been written by women."
    Maxine Green, who enjoys simultaneous affairs of the heart with three men and one woman, endorses this argument: "My experience of the poly world is that there's much more emphasis on equality than in the average monogamous relationship. Women are just as able to make new connections as men, and are at least as often at the centre of a group."
    But not everyone has had such a positive experience. Rosie (not her real name), 32, from Bristol, spent two years in a polyamorous relationship. "Soon after my boyfriend and I got together, we decided to try polyamory, as we often fancied other people and didn't want to limit each other's freedom. It worked well for a while," she remembers. "But I did sometimes have insecure moments when he was off with another lover. The trouble really started when one of my other relationships got more serious, and he became distant and quiet. I was always completely open with him, and constantly emphasised that I was still in love with him, but he couldn't handle it, and in the end we split up."
    Rosie sounds a word of warning: "I wouldn't judge anyone for trying it, but I do worry slightly that some people – especially young people – might do it because it's trendy, or because their partner wants them to."
    But polyamory is not solely the preserve of those frisky, idealistic youngsters. Pete Benson, 69, has rejoiced in "emotional connectedness with more than one person" for half a century, and last year published his "user's guide" to the practice, The Polyamory Handbook. The American author raised his two children while living in a "quad" with his first wife and another couple in Eugene, Oregon, during the early 1970s. "All five children in the quad family really loved having four parents to love them, pay attention to them, help them, and just do things with them. We adults, too, had more free time by sharing the parenting activities."
    Benson and his current wife of six years, Deborah, 56, now share a "secondary partner", Misty, 50. More recently he has started seeing another secondary, Elan. "There is definitely more acceptance now than 40 years ago, when I was in my twenties. Then it was still a socially new thing for unmarried people to admit openly that they shared sex, and it was virtually unheard of for them to live together. Those who openly did otherwise caused eyebrows to rise." And it was called, in what came to be a 1970s cliché, "free love".
    Benson welcomes polyamory's tentative moves towards the mainstream. "Nowadays, my wife and I routinely mention being polyamorous when relevant in conversation, as normally as mentioning, say, that we enjoy bicycling." After more than 50 years as a polyamorist, he's a "veteran" in the field. His advice is simple: "It takes thorough communication, flexibility and constant cultivation of one's primary relationship (if you're in such a relationship) to maintain trust. A sense of humour also helps."
    Like Benson, Chicago-born medical translator Juliette Siegfried, who lives in Sitges, Catalonia, believes that having more than two parents in a family means "more love, support and financial resources for the child". Siegfried lives with her husband of 11 years, Roland Combes, his girlfriend of two years, homeopath Laurel Avery, and Combes' and Avery's eight-month-old daughter, Maya. Well aware of the discrimination faced by polys, not to mention poly parents, Siegfried, 42, has become something of a spokesperson for the cause, and runs discussion groups in Barcelona, as well as a Yahoo! group, Poliamor, online. "How else will we get past the prejudices?" she reasons.
    Combes, a 42-year-old British web programmer, goes one step further: "While I don't agree with dictating to people how they should live their lives, I feel that if governments promoted and encouraged these types of larger families, all sharing resources, it would benefit society as a whole by putting less pressure on the planet."
    Though it's unlikely that state-funded leaflets extolling the virtues of non-monogamy are going to hit our doormats any time soon (I wouldn't be so sure of that. Obama's probably writing it as we speak.), polyamory's increasing visibility and popularity suggest that in the not-too-distant-future there'll be a lot more of it about. Whether, as Benson puts it, "poly-style open relationships and multi-adult households might one day be accepted by society as a perfectly normal option for living and loving" remains to be seen, but movers and shakers in the poly world are already doing their damnedest to put this unconventional approach to romance on the map.
    I pray that the Lord will smite London next Saturday, the way He did Sodom and Gomorrah. Unbelievable.
    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
  • im a queer pervert get over it
    Unsaved trash, sodomite teen
    • Sep 2009
    • 39

    #2
    Re: Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

    Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
    In yet another sign that we are living through the End Times, the liberal media is actually now presenting whoredoms and fornications in a positive light! Read on, and prepare to be disgusted...
    I pray that the Lord will smite London next Saturday, the way He did Sodom and Gomorrah. Unbelievable.
    is it your prorogrative to slander and upset people for being who they are, afterall god gave us free will, well technically he gave us fuck all because he isnt real, but if he was then why wouldnt he want us to sue free will which he gave us
    Lev.18:22
    Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

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    • Oakland "Reb" Griner
      True Christian™
      True Christian™
      • Jun 2009
      • 2241

      #3
      Re: Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

      Originally posted by im gay get over it View Post
      is it your prorogrative to slander and upset people for being who they are, afterall god gave us free will, well technically he gave us piffle all because he isnt real, but if he was then why wouldnt he want us to sue free will which he gave us

      He gave us the King James Bible and His only Son so that we might be Saved.


      Why not use that free will to select His Way ??



      Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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      • Rev. Jim Osborne
        True Christian™ Televangelist
        Director of Fundraising and Tithing
        On the Look Out for Wife #6!
        True Christian™
        • Jun 2009
        • 8622

        #4
        Re: Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

        This is the most disgusting thing I ever read!

        A man sharing a bed with two women? And these two women perform sexual acts on one another in front of the man? And both women don't have a problem with you sleeping with the other woman? And the man has sex with both women at the same time?

        I have never been so revolted in my life! Thanks for showing us this "polyamory menace", Brother Temp. I will be sure to contact some organizations so I might show them their sinful ways and to join the Lord.

        THE ONLY THREE-WAY I APPROVE OF IS THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST!

        Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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        • Brother Temperance
          Senior Usher
          True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
          A very nice young man
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 15621

          #5
          Re: Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

          Originally posted by im gay get over it View Post
          is it your prorogrative to slander and upset people for being who they are
          If they are being perverts, then yes.
          afterall god gave us free will, well technically he gave us piffle all because he isnt real, but if he was then why wouldnt he want us to sue free will which he gave us
          No-one said anything about suing anyone, least of all an abstract concept like free will. Are you a Jew or something?
          O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



          God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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          • im a queer pervert get over it
            Unsaved trash, sodomite teen
            • Sep 2009
            • 39

            #6
            Re: Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

            Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
            If they are being perverts, then yes.
            No-one said anything about suing anyone, least of all an abstract concept like free will. Are you a Jew or something?
            were did i say i would sue people
            Lev.18:22
            Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

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            • Nobar King
              Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
              Christ's Guardian
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2007
              • 23748

              #7
              Re: Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

              See post #2.
              May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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              • Brother Temperance
                Senior Usher
                True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                A very nice young man
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 15621

                #8
                Re: Perverts gather in London to destroy the family!

                Originally posted by im gay get over it View Post
                were did i say i would sue people
                It would appear that not only can you not write, you can't read either. You didn't say you would sue people, you threatened to sue free will.
                O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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