[Sparky]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Why are your thoughts relevant?

There is nothing accurate about that. Your assumption that all rapes are brought to court is very flawed. It is a know fact amongts people who actually use their brain that a significant number of rapes go unreported. Proof? Unlike you I am happy to provide proof: Dick Haws, "The Elusive Numbers on False Rape," Columbian Journalism Review (November/December 1997).

We already did provide proof. Can you do the same by producing proof that proves you are right and we are wrong? Not that scientific papers prove anything: PROOF scientists are liars (The Times).

That's why I specified that it is accurate in counting rapes that go to court. You cannot provide an accurate statistic on unreported rapes because they are.... errr..... unreported.
You have not provided any "proof". All I want is a PubMed URL, or some kind of link.
I know scientific papers can be wrong; this is why I am emphasising the importance of peer-reviews and so on
" Not that scientific papers prove anything"- exactly, this is why I would like to look at the paper you are referring to

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

That doesn't back up my thoughts

Why are your thoughts relevant?

which is accurate in counting the number of rapes bought to court

There is nothing accurate about that. Your assumption that all rapes are brought to court is very flawed. It is a know fact amongts people who actually use their brain that a significant number of rapes go unreported. Proof? Unlike you I am happy to provide proof: Dick Haws, "The Elusive Numbers on False Rape," Columbian Journalism Review (November/December 1997).

please provide the paper from the scientific journal it was published in

We already did provide proof. Can you do the same by producing proof that proves you are right and we are wrong? Not that scientific papers prove anything: PROOF scientists are liars (The Times).

[Sparky]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

But if I say 1 in 4 women are raped, you don't ask for evidence of that because it backs up your thoughts.

Why do you only ask for evidence for things you disagree with and not for things you agree with?

That doesn't back up my thoughts, and I would question it anyway-where did you get the data, which country and age group does that refer to and so on, although statistics like that tend to me more accurate because you can just get a computer to count the number of defendants in rape trials per year, which is accurate in counting the number of rapes bought to court, whilst this number that you've come up with could have been made up for all I know-please provide the paper from the scientific journal it was published in. Your continual evasion of this makes the study highly suspect

[BelieverInGod]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

But if I say 1 in 4 women are raped, you don't ask for evidence of that because it backs up your thoughts.

Why do you only ask for evidence for things you disagree with and not for things you agree with?

[Sparky]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

How so, these are Christians Scientists who made this studies. They have degrees and stuff like that. Why do you have a problem with the scientific method?

Because all good scientists know that all studies have to be peer reviewed or otherwise anyone could print a study that doesn't follow scientific procedure. That means that the scientists running the study could have changed parameters to make the results show what they wanted them to, and then the study is invalid. For example, on a study that was trying to prove that oats give you cancer, the scientists could feed the rats oats but also expose them to radiation. This would show that oats give rats cancer, but if you look more carefully you can see that it's not necessarily the case. That is why sites like PubMed exist- to let other scientists look at the methods to see if they are correct

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

I haven't discounted it; merely asked to see it so that I can see whether or not it's valid. That's just common sense surely?
If the study is valid I would find those results very interesting; and you can't really argue with correct scientific procedure

How so, these are Christians Scientists who made this studies. They have degrees and stuff like that. Why do you have a problem with the scientific method?

[Sparky]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

The only reason you have discounted that Christians scientific study on rape from Patrick Henry Collage because you are mindless bigot against Christians.

I haven't discounted it; merely asked to see it so that I can see whether or not it's valid. That's just common sense surely?
If the study is valid I would find those results very interesting; and you can't really argue with correct scientific procedure

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

You can't say something has been "proved" and then not back it up.
Any school teacher worth their salt should tell you that

The only reason you have discounted that Christians scientific study on rape from Patrick Henry Collage because you are mindless bigot against Christians.

[Sparky]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So you'd take the word of a secular scientist over the word of a True Christian™ on matters of morality?

What kind of a sick-o are you?

You can't say something has been "proved" and then not back it up.
Any school teacher worth their salt should tell you that

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Please provide the paper from the Scientific journal in which it was published, then you can start calling this a valid point

So you'd take the word of a secular scientist over the word of a True Christian(tm) on matters of morality?

What kind of a sick-o are you?

[Sparky]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Brother Jeb, that's a terrific tract to give to women of all ages.

If I recall correctly, it was social scientists at Patrick Henry College who demonstrated that fully 89% of all rapes are associated with a woman's inappropriate attire. Why do secularists deny the fact that women are responsible for most rapes?

Please provide the paper from the Scientific journal in which it was published, then you can start calling this a valid point

[Hillbilly Pete]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

If it serves to keep our young daughters from acting like filthy whores then I am all for it. I taught my girls to always dress modestly in a way the Lord would approve of, but not all parents are as diligent as I am and this might help show good Christian daughters the way.

[superchristian]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So, this is just a question.

Are you saying I can walk into my neighbors house and rape her for the low low price of $190?

I might just be coming around to this line of thinking...

This is brilliant! If we go at the same time it must be discounted

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Thats not the subject, the subject is clothing (and what it signals), not the lack of same.

But if dressing like a slut (even unknowingly) means its your own fault that you get raped, its only fair that wearing the wrong colour of t-shirt in the wrong part of town means that its your own fault that a homosexual rapes you.

Apples and oranges. The Godly Doctor Reker explained it; homosexuals want to rape everyone to make them gay because they hate Jesus. That's why they fill the internet full of gay porn. Straight men don't do that. They have self control, until they are reasonably provoked. Some woman in jens and lipsticks knows she is putting out the welcome mat.

[Levi Jones]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Thats not the subject, the subject is clothing (and what it signals), not the lack of same.

But if dressing like a slut (even unknowingly) means its your own fault that you get raped, its only fair that wearing the wrong colour of t-shirt in the wrong part of town means that its your own fault that a homosexual rapes you.

Would you go into a part of town known to be gang territory wearing the colors and uniform of a rival gang? Would you not expect something bad to happen?

Would you walk around in a predominately black neighborhood sporting a large swastika on your t-shirt after freshly shaving your head? The cops would laugh in your face when you reported it.

It's really the same thing. A woman who dresses like a whore is asking for bad things to happen to her.