[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Nooo, you don't get it. That's from the novel, which is a great novel by the way and I loved it. This Shangri-La is made up of all people, of every race and religion, of every faith. We accept everyone. Which you should learn to do.

Egyptian culture believed the same thing, they accepted everyone. Their vision of "Heaven" Was the same as our vision or Shangri-La.

Friend, your Shangri-La is just that -- a FANTASY! It is the made-up mind dreams of an author on drugs. Do you want to know where you're really going to go???

On December 21, 2012 Spaceship Jesus will land on this earth. All those that are saved will join him on board the Spaceship and the Spaceship Jesus will fly across the star systems forever and ever. On board Spaceship Jesus is a veritable heaven. Waterfalls, beaches, mountains, majestic valleys, hotels, casinos, etc.

On the other hand, those that are rejected by Spaceship Jesus are doomed to remain behind on an post-apocalyptic earth, raped by robots and devoured by wild animals! The prophet Isaiah tells this to be true!!!

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah
13:20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.
13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there
13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

[Diablah]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Here's a fact for you: Only homosexuals and promiscuous women wear make-up. You openly worship demonic, homosexual entertainers (clowns). If you want to disobey God, that's your prerogative. Go ahead, live a life of perversion with your flaming silly string and ridiculously tiny automobiles. But this is neither a debate forum, nor is it a platform for you to spread misinformation about God.

Here's a fact for you: I don't openly worship any demonic or homosexual people. You obviously don't understand we don't worship them, we worship the CARNIVAL. Where they accept EVERYONE, unlike you people. We don't disobey god. It's obviously a debate forum, if you insist on saying every other belief or religion is wrong but yours. That's a pretty heated debate topic.

[Diablah]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Friend, your Shangri-La is just that -- a FANTASY! It is the made-up mind dreams of an author on drugs. Do you want to know where you're really going to go???

On December 21, 2012 Spaceship Jesus will land on this earth. All those that are saved will join him on board the Spaceship and the Spaceship Jesus will fly across the star systems forever and ever. On board Spaceship Jesus is a veritable heaven. Waterfalls, beaches, mountains, majestic valleys, hotels, casinos, etc.

On the other hand, those that are rejected by Spaceship Jesus are doomed to remain behind on an post-apocalyptic earth, raped by robots and devoured by wild animals! The prophet Isaiah tells this to be true!!!

What...in....the....HELL!? And you say I'm on something? Check into rehab man. The kinda stuff you're on should be banned from ever being created again.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Nooo, you don't get it. That's from the novel, which is a great novel by the way and I loved it. This Shangri-La is made up of all people, of every race and religion, of every faith. We accept everyone. Which you should learn to do.

Egyptian culture believed the same thing, they accepted everyone. Their vision of "Heaven" Was the same as our vision or Shangri-La.

Oh, I see. You just make things up.

Ask the joos who were kept as slaves by the Egyptians how "accepted" they felt.

It's obviously a debate forum, if you insist on saying every other belief or religion is wrong but yours. That's a pretty heated debate topic.

No, it's not a debate forum. And there is no debate that everyone else is wrong. But we're not saying that. GOD is!

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[Diablah]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Oh, I see. You just make things up.

Ask the joos who were kept as slaves by the Egyptians how "accepted" they felt.


No, it's not a debate forum. And there is no debate that everyone else is wrong. But we're not saying that. GOD is!

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Learn the difference between a slave and a servant. The Jewish were servants to the Egyptians, not slaves. I'm not making anything up, but you think Slavery is right, don't you?

and stop messing up verses from the bible, it makes you look bad.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Learn the difference between a slave and a servant. The Jewish were servants to the Egyptians, not slaves. I'm not making anything up, but you think Slavery is right, don't you?

and stop messing up verses from the bible, it makes you look bad.

Who's messing up verses? He who doesn't believe in Jesus Christ is condemned. We believe in Jesus Christ, so we're right. Other people don't, they're wrong. Case closed.

As for slaves/servants...

Exodus 1:8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
1:9 And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:
1:10 Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.
1:11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.
1:12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.
1:13 And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour:
1:14 And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.

Sounds like slavery to me!

Exodus 2:23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.

Servants don't cry up. SLAVES cry up (when mistreated)!

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

It isn't YOUR place to spout these so called "messages of god"

Rev. Jim started this thread, so in essence it IS his place to spout his messages from God.

[Andrea]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

On the other hand, those that are rejected by Spaceship Jesus are doomed to remain behind on an post-apocalyptic earth, raped by robots and devoured by wild animals! The prophet Isaiah tells this to be true!!!

Holy crap, that's awesome.

[Diablah]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Who's messing up verses? He who doesn't believe in Jesus Christ is condemned. We believe in Jesus Christ, so we're right. Other people don't, they're wrong. Case closed.

As for slaves/servants...

Exodus 1:8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
1:9 And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:
1:10 Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.
1:11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.
1:12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.
1:13 And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour:
1:14 And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.

Sounds like slavery to me!

Exodus 2:23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.

Servants don't cry up. SLAVES cry up (when mistreated)!

You do realize there was more than one king of Egypt, right? The ruler that had taken over at the time when they took mythology into account, when they started believing everything was right. They were servants, hell if that, they were citizens of Egypt. It was their job as citizens to work under the king, depending on what their job was. Stop quoting the bible at me, I've read it cover to cover, but not your "Almighty and all knowing" KJV Bible.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Just another sinner denying the 100% historical accuracy of the King James Bible as a way to excuse his sodomy or whatever sin it is he loves to wallow in.

[x434343]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Ah. You forget a few major points, Rev. Jim.

First of all, you forget to mention the "Karma System" intergrated into the game. This system will punish you for being evil by sending out a group of "Regulators" that will kill you for doing things such as activating the nuclear device in Megaton.

Second, you forget to mention that the people you're meant to fight are wild animals, mutated creatures, and, of course, radiation-ridden humans who are attacking you for not being like them.

Finally you forget to mention IT IS A GAME. It's also rated M, so the only people buying this game for their kids are those who know their kids will NOT take what they feel into the public.

-From a gamer's mouth

[killurz]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Ah. You forget a few major points, Rev. Jim.

First of all, you forget to mention the "Karma System" intergrated into the game. This system will punish you for being evil by sending out a group of "Regulators" that will kill you for doing things such as activating the nuclear device in Megaton.

Second, you forget to mention that the people you're meant to fight are wild animals, mutated creatures, and, of course, radiation-ridden humans who are attacking you for not being like them.

Finally you forget to mention IT IS A GAME. It's also rated M, so the only people buying this game for their kids are those who know their kids will NOT take what they feel into the public.

-From a gamer's mouth

i totally agree
i was actually planning to put u where u belong

but im not doing it

i love the game...u should play everything go everywhere see everything and not just whine on mommy's shoulder about how 'un-christian' the game is u should look to how the storty's are made and how much work there is for a game like this to be made
u only look with your crappy 1st century childish vision to how many people are killed in a game...mabey u forgot the christians are not holy people?
how many priests are abusing little boys at this time? and your so-called crusades...they where raping and looting everything to they got their hands on
no wonder they dont have a christian church ingame..they hate u and your fellow christians and i dont stop them...it thanks to people like u who think believing in 'god' is a lifestyle that makes this world go apeshit u are just as kapitalistic as the rest of the world leaders
if u want to do something usefull use your time preaching for nature not whine on games
if u really want a better future do that

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

.mabey u forgot the christians are not holy people?
how many priests are abusing little boys at this time? and your so-called crusades...they where raping and looting everything to they got their hands on

I think you're confusing Christians with Catholics. We don't have baby-diddling priests in Christianity.

[brandoncrisp]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'd like to say, as both a gamer and a former christian, that the first post was "extreme-ist" and that If this pastor wants to "review" the game, he should PLAY it. Yes, fallout's story is for a more "mature" audience, but that's why its rated M. Kids CANNOT buy this without a parent or guardian there to purchase the game for them. Yes, you can be a "bad" person in the game, but didn't your "God" give us free will? Not to mention, the game punishes bad behavior with the karma system, and you don't have to "kill hundreds of people." Its a sandbox open Role-Playing game, the player has full responsibility for their actions in-game. But that's just it, it is just a game. I cannot say that there is not violence in the game, but the game's theme is a somewhat positive anti-nuke one. There are over 9,000 different games out there with violence, but like battletoads, are not necessarily "kid's games."

By now, Im assuming their will be an ban very soon, but that just goes to show that you people refuse to actually logically discuss something, not being blinded by your religious views. Im not an atheist, just an agnostic, which is basically im not quite sure who or what to follow / believe in. So this is not some "atheist devil worshiper". I wanted to say my opinion, and I would appreciate the ability to see the results.

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

blablabla Karma System blablabla

Do you think this is some kind of Buddhist loving forum? The whole game is suspect, and the fact that you're here defending it shows that you are not to be trusted, either.