[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

So you're 100% sure than you are the righteous ones? How can you prove that? Without saying 'because we are', I mean... Give me some proof, please ^^

Because God and the Holy KJV1611 Bible exist, for starters.

Because Jesus died on the cross for YOU!!!

If you want to hate God, that is your choice. Be keep in mind, when you die, You're dead.
Whether due to your own disgusting sinning or the Lords divine will, you are dead. Instantly your soul begin falling towards the black abyss above Hell. The falling seems eternal as you gather speed and the heat begins to grow. Then you notice a red dot below you growing larger by the second, this is the Lake in the center of Hell. It is the brightest point in Hell therefore it is visible for a great distance. Keep in mind that the farther you fall, the further from Christ you are.
As you gain speed and the flames become apparent you may wonder how you can stop this from happening. The answer is simple. It's too late and you can't, you're doomed. Your soul is damned and it WILL happen. The temperature is now approaching the unbearable limit as your flesh begins to smoulder and ignite and you continue to build speed as you plummet toward the now visible boiling Lake of Fire. You can almost make out individual souls thrashing in the magma with your flaming eyesockets. Soon you will join them, your terror mounts as your screams become gargled with the stench of Hells evil smell. The heat becomes excruciating as you notice your skin peeling away and your bones becoming visible and black. Flaming and screaming in anguish, you splashdown into the acidic brimstone of Satans Lake at around 250 MPH. You are instantly vaporized and reformed as a tormented soul writhing in absolute terror in the deafening depths of the Lake that Burns Eternal. The pain is beyond comprehension as you gnash your teeth so hard they shatter in your mouth. Satan periodically plucks you from the flames to savagely rape repeatedly and casually tosses you to his infernal minions to rip apart and rape at will, only to be reformed and have this scenario repeated...over and over and over, forever.
Is it still funny mocking our mission to Save your soul? We want you to enjoy Heaven and eternal praise and worship at the feet of our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

So you're 100% sure than you are the righteous ones? How can you prove that? Without saying 'because we are', I mean... Give me some proof, please ^^

Because as Paul explains in 2nd Corinthians, when we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, our sins are washed away and we become new. Only through faith in Christ can a person be righteous.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

[Soulsuke]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Funny... So far, nobody of you actually answered my question ^^
By the way, I'm a gamer and proud of it. I'm 22 and I'm currently atending the 4th year of computer engineering university... Yeah, sure thing i'm not clever or smart, i bet all of you can take function analysis exams and such better than i did ^^
By the way... Right, I made some researches... It's been quite a while since the last time I read the Bible and the Gospel, yet i found the phrase i was looking for: Matthew 7:1. I found various version of that phrase here: http://bible.cc/matthew/7-1.htm ...Wait, but you did judge! OH MY GOD YOU'RE ALL SINNERS!!!

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

UR MR GAY. Remember that one? Are you Mr. Gay?

Ummm..No and no? Also Nobar, it would seem you enjoy spreading misinformation. And if you do with something as miniscule as this, than that casts (For me, anyway) a large shadow on your character. Plus, if you cant get these little things right, what about much larger things?
I pray you are not as ignorant in real life as you are here Nobar, truly.

[Soulsuke]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Oh, by the way... So far I never said I hate god or anything like that, you're making up all that crap to prove your arguments... Oh, and... Yes, accepting Jesus does save you and your soul... But it doesn't jsutify the sins that you'll commit after that moment... Seriously, excess of pride around here... Lucifer itself couldn't do any better, good job ^^

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Funny... So far, nobody of you actually answered my question ^^
By the way, I'm a gamer and proud of it. I'm 22 and I'm currently atending the 4th year of computer engineering university... Yeah, sure thing i'm not clever or smart, i bet all of you can take function analysis exams and such better than i did ^^
By the way... Right, I made some researches... It's been quite a while since the last time I read the Bible and the Gospel, yet i found the phrase i was looking for: Matthew 7:1. I found various version of that phrase here: http://bible.cc/matthew/7-1.htm ...Wait, but you did judge! OH MY GOD YOU'RE ALL SINNERS!!!

But I did answer your question. With Biblical support as well.

Matthew 7:1-5 is as I said, about hypocritical judgement. It does not mean we cannot judge at all. What Jesus is saying is this: If you're an adulterer, and you judge someone for cheating on his wife, you are guilty and will be judged back by Jesus. However, if you are not an adulterer and you judge someone for it, you are not guilty of any sin.

Pastor Billy-Reuben addresses judgment here.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Funny... So far, nobody of you actually answered my question ^^
By the way, I'm a gamer and proud of it. I'm 22 and I'm currently atending the 4th year of computer engineering university... Yeah, sure thing i'm not clever or smart, i bet all of you can take function analysis exams and such better than i did ^^
By the way... Right, I made some researches... It's been quite a while since the last time I read the Bible and the Gospel, yet i found the phrase i was looking for: Matthew 7:1. I found various version of that phrase here: http://bible.cc/matthew/7-1.htm ...Wait, but you did judge! OH MY GOD YOU'RE ALL SINNERS!!!

Son, I strongly suggest you do not attempt to brag about education. The Rev.has mutiple PHd's., I have a couple of masters (Organic Chem and Business/Finance from Princeton) along with multiple MSCE's (C, C+, C++.#, Machine, Assembler) Oracle DBA and so on. So sit back down and listen to those that actually have the knowledge.

And the correct quote is:
Matthew 7:1 (King James Version)

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Now, as I see things, you judged just a moment ago, did you not?

(I am no where near as versed on the scripture as the Rev., but I am learning)

[Soulsuke]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

But I did answer your question. With Biblical support as well.

Matthew 7:1-5 is as I said, about hypocritical judgement. It does not mean we cannot judge at all. What Jesus is saying is this: If you're an adulterer, and you judge someone for cheating on his wife, you are guilty and will be judged back by Jesus. However, if you are not an adulterer and you judge someone for it, you are not guilty of any sin.

Pastor Billy-Reuben addresses judgment here.

Yet, you're arrogating yourself the right to judge what's right and what's wrong basing just on your beliefs... It's the same thing that the ones you're judging do, so... You're judging the ones that commit your same error, so.... Guess you can get the rest.

Son, I strongly suggest you do not attempt to brag about education. The Rev.has mutiple PHd's., I have a couple of masters (Organic Chem and Business/Finance from Princeton) along with multiple MSCE's (C, C+, C++.#, Machine, Assembler) Oracle DBA and so on. So sit back down and listen to those that actually have the knowledge.

And the correct quote is:
Matthew 7:1 (King James Version)

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Now, as I see things, you judged just a moment ago, did you not?

(I am no where near as versed on the scripture as the Rev., but I am learning)

Ummm... Well now, you're telling me to sit back and listen to the ones that know more than me... Yet, you assumed that you know more stuff than me? I don't know everything, but I take all the informatic stuff you threw on and add in Java, Javascript, Modular, Ruby, Python, advanced GTK/QT usage, and i could keep going for a while... I love programming, and i always try to learn new things as they come out ^^
To answer your question... Yes, I actually judged you before... But I'd like to make you notice that you guys kept judging me aswell 'till now... That you guys aren't even interested in other point of views, you rather stick with your dogmatic belief, which is... Pathetic, really. You know how science evolves? Every researcher knows that what we already know could be wrong. That with every research we do, we could find a new physic law, that totally squashes all the ones we tought were right until then... And I'd expect somebody that (as you claim) knows programming to know that. And to realize when he isn't considering the possibility to be wrong at all.

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

This is a Christian forum. What other views could we possibly need or want?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Yet, you're arrogating yourself the right to judge what's right and what's wrong basing just on your beliefs... It's the same thing that the ones you're judging do, so... You're judging the ones that commit your same error, so.... Guess you can get the rest.

No I am not being a hypocrite by any means. I have no idea what the word "arrogating" means, I'm assuming it's a made-up verb form for an adjective.

The difference is that I am Saved(c) and you are not. Paul tells us that I have the right to judge all things while you cannot judge me.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

As you can see, per the Bible, I have every right to judge you, but you are committing a sin by judging me. I am not judging hypocritically either. If anything, I am trying to help you come to Christ so you can be Saved(c) from the eternal hellfire that awaits you if you stay on the path you are currently on.

[Soulsuke]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

No I am not being a hypocrite by any means. I have no idea what the word "arrogating" means, I'm assuming it's a made-up verb form for an adjective.

The difference is that I am Saved© and you are not. Paul tells us that I have the right to judge all things while you cannot judge me.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

As you can see, per the Bible, I have every right to judge you, but you are committing a sin by judging me. I am not judging hypocritically either. If anything, I am trying to help you come to Christ so you can be Saved© from the eternal hellfire that awaits you if you stay on the path you are currently on.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/arrogating I assume it's a verb. Unless 'Present participle of arrogate.' means 'made-up verb form for an adjective'.
My point is, by believing that you can judge others, you're committing a deadly sin. By believing that you're worthy and i am not, you're committing a deadly sin. At least, be honest with yourself, if you can.

This is a Christian forum. What other views could we possibly need or want?

Well, that's true. But that doesn't justify acting like bigots.

[Pandora]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Why are all of you "True Christians" all racists?? You all Muslims? Why?

You are all blinded by your own faith. I think religion is a very strange subject. Why do you believe in something [God], while you have no evidence that he actually excists? Because you're told to believe in God?

Fallout is a great game, and it does not make me a bad person. Because I know the difference between fiction and real live. I played this game for a long time, and I don't feel like killing someone. It just keeps me busy, and I think it's entertaining.

It is extremely violent. It features various types of sub-machine guns, nuclear weapons, rocket launchers, knives, flamethrowers, various melee weapons, and other instruments of destruction. You can't play this game without killing hundreds of people.

What? What are you talking about? I haven't killed anybody while playing this game!

There is a lot of cursing in this game, with the A-word, S-word, and F-word.

Yeah, welcome to the media! Cursing is everywhere! On tv, in music, on the internet.

You can blow up an innocent town with an atom bomb. After obliverating these people, you are rewarded with money and a place to stay. What kind of message is this giving our children?

Thats why there is a karma system in the game. If you do something evil, your karma will go down. If you dismantle the bomb, your karma goes up.

The player can create their own homemade weapons like a "dart gun" and "bottlecap mine" which encourage domestic terrorist activities. How many kids might be inspired to make their own pipe bombs after playing this game?

How many kids? What about zero? The most people who makes pipe bombs have learned it on YouTube or from friends. Not from a video game. Be a bit realistic will ya?

There are beings called "ghouls", which appear to be some kind of zombie demon out of a horror movie. While many ghouls are bad, some are considered "good guys".

WRONG. Ghouls are just people, minked by radiation. The evil ones are radiated so badly, that they have lost their minds. The good ones are just minked. So what you're trying to say is that minked people are evil? That's just ignorant.

There is a group of misbehaving brats in a town called Little Lamplight. They do anything they want and disrespect adults. There is nothing in the game that can correct this behavior even though the Bible tells us how to deal with such rebellious imps: Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Nowhere in the game can you punish these children for their behavior. It tells kids they can act however they want with impugnity.

They sticked together, so they can survive in the corrupt wastelands. They are just surviving.

You are able to pick locks and it's a skill. You can basically break into other people's doors, safes, and other secure places and steal what you want at whim.
It also promotes Computer Hacking. Through the skill "Computers", the player can hack another person's private computer, even though hacking is a federal crime.

Hey, it's a corrupt world out there. You need that skill to survive.

Alcohol is available in this game through such forms as whiskey.

Yeah, and alcohol is also available in every super market, on every corner of the streets. It's actually pretty normal.

Drug use is promoted. There is a syringe called "Med X" (Heroin), a drug called "Psycho" (Methamphetamine) and "Buffout" (Steroids). Taking these drugs makes you a stronger player, so drugs are encouraged in this game. Even though you can get addicted to the drugs, you can always just see a doctor to cure the addiction. Nowhere in this game is there any Christian pastor to help you overcome addiction through faith in Jesus Christ. Nowhere!

Drugs aren't promoted, you just have the oppertunity to use drugs if you want. They give you good effects, and bad effect like in real live And the last part really cracked me up. The idea of having faith Jesus Christ will cure your addiction. I prefer to believe in myself.

I just think you guys are just a sick sect, with racist and wrong thoughts. And the reaction I will get is probably the same as you give the rest. For instance: "Did he say something" or "Shouldn't to go to bed/school" or "May God save your soul". It's just so typical, answering with bullshit instead of facts. Typical religious insanety if you ask me.

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to kill thousands of innoscent people, having sex with prostitutes, while smoking a huge amount of pot. I think it's because of that Satanic Fallout game.

[Soulsuke]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Actually... I'm starting to understand their point of view... They may actually be right...

...How can i convert?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/arrogating I assume it's a verb. Unless 'Present participle of arrogate.' means 'made-up verb form for an adjective'.
My point is, by believing that you can judge others, you're committing a deadly sin. By believing that you're worthy and i am not, you're committing a deadly sin. At least, be honest with yourself, if you can.

How is believing I can judge others a sin? The Bible commands us to judge! And how is me saying that you are unworthy to judge but I can in any way a sin? I back up all my claims with Scriptural evidence.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

The Bible says I can judge you but you cannot judge me. Now let's look at evangelizing, and Paul makes it clear that as Christians we have the right to judge unsaved sinners...

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Reproving and rebuking require judgement. You have to judge someone first if you are to rebuke them. Now, the Bible is full of many commandments where was as Christians can and should judge. How is judging a sin?

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Why are all of you "True Christians" all racists?? You all Muslims? Why?

You are all blinded by your own faith. I think religion is a very strange subject. Why do you believe in something [God], while you have no evidence that he actually excists? Because you're told to believe in God?

Welcome to God's favorite forum where proper spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure are always appreciated!

Please follow church protocol and place an introduction on the introduction forum. Please read the Pastor's Rules and Announcements and pay close attention to the "noobs" thread.

This is a very strong first post. I'm sure if you have any questions about us, they will be answered in the reading matertials I have cited.

Please refrain from further hate speech.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus