[Volemire]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

I meant to say "I mean god" not "I god"

[Nobar King]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

Dear Volmere:
I understand that English is not your first language and that you are possibly an Italian. Welcome to our Christian forum, and I hope that you find your stay here enlightening.

[Volemire]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

Hello I would like to address this issue as well. It would appear that we may have distorted views on this game how many of you actually played it? Hmm well you'll simply replies with you would not expose yourself to such trash witch is understandable, so well get to that later. I'll address a couple other things to begin with. What is all this about christens being infallible? I god expects us to be perfect but we are not able to do that we sin everyday making us far less than perfect for it would only take one sin to be completely obliterated in the presence of god. Point that I'm trying to make with that is we are obviously not perfect and hence can be wrong i mean even to a nonbeliever in a matter of fact we are quit often misguided and miss lead by the enemy and are wrong a grate deal, so we are only telling the truth when speaking the bible for the bible is the word of god and gods word is truth. the second thing i would like to address is what is all of this Lisa H? the word of god is the word of god no matter who's using it a nonbeliever if quoting the bible is still quoting the bible and hence is quoting god. There is wisdom in all people and places. Now that thats out of the way lets actually get to the issue at hand. Now as far as my personal stance on this matters I am willing to look at both sides. To start off I will share with you something I am not proud of I have more knowledge ab our enemy then i do about god I have found god a couple years ago from being black magic wick-en. I'm much happier now and I have excepted Jesus Christ to be my lord and Saviour. Now I tell you that to tell you this demons do not often directly intervene in matters but are very patient and understand both how the world works and whats coming they are not bound by time as they are by space, and so with this in mind there tactic is to tweak just a little at the start of something. I like to use the analogy of the Egyptians when marking there territory they would use a rope and if they were even a centimeter off they would would be miles and miles away from where they were suppose to be at the end of it all. See now that there tactic has proved quite efficient, however this dose not entitle us to judge anything we must remain neutral for nothing earthly is inherently evil, for gods plan is perfect. I fear i did not go through that throughly enough but I can donate more time to this matter if it means finding the truth. alright so the game itself well all games and animes and for the most part movies are have all adopted making women provocative, so to isolate that to just Star craft two is unreasonable, however we cannot escape these things either we are suppose to be in this world but not of it. This would mean that by living in isolation from the world we could easily do this but from my experience unfortunately if we do that the demons are actually more effective. There is wisdom everywhere and things to be learned in all things for god has made things so that in the end it all works to his ends. Also I've noticed that most of the claims made by this sight have made if they come from the game at all they come are nothing more than banter between two players now the game doesn't really have any control over the players. The pie thing is just silly. Please fellow christens let us work together to find the truth and emerge stronger from this endeavor. I am not hear to smite you or prove you wrong I just seek the truth and I hope that others will seek the truth with me, for to understand something you must destroy everything you know about it and relearn it over and over again and each time you do so your understanding grows stronger. I ask let us have soft hearts and find the truth!

[ChristDad]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

Killing gays and rape is something God encourages though! I have some proof right here.

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NA

Rape, death, and plundering seems to be something I find often when I pop open a bible, though not in the new versions which clean up and completely remove these passages.

and? Nobody said God was loving, Jesus died for our sins, God has no issues damning faggots and women who do not marry their rapists. I love how the "new versions" think they can just change Gods word to fit their own image of him.

[Raine Amorie]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

Killing gays and rape is something God encourages though! I have some proof right here.

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NA

Rape, death, and plundering seems to be something I find often when I pop open a bible, though not in the new versions which clean up and completely remove these passages.

[Lisa H]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

/thread

Hopefully, this type of argument gets through since any argument involving superior logic and reasoning do not.

Lo and behold ye ignorant zealots! The book you hold to be completely and utterly right has been used to prove your own close-mindedness and blasphemy!

So what makes you think you are right. You have to be a True Christian and follow God. You cannot just quote the Bible to make yourself remain against the Lord.

Genesis 21:23 Now therefore swear unto me here by God that thou wilt not deal falsely with me, nor with my son, nor with my son's son: but according to the kindness that I have done unto thee, thou shalt do unto me, and to the land wherein thou hast sojourned.

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Deuteronomy 12:28 Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of the LORD thy God.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother

[Irrational Dissenter]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

I admitted I was wrong in the hopes that you would see that you are perhaps fallible yourselves, and as I've said, any being ever to inhabit a human body short of Christ Himself is capable of being wrong and will be wrong in their lives, yet you seem to think that you aren't, your only "proof", if you can call it that, is that you read the bible, whereas the Jews think they're right because they're Jews, and the Muslims think they're right because they're muslims. You are acting the exact same and seem to think you're still better than them, whereas all man is created equal.

Also, you say that all religions other than Christianity were satanic. Christianity descended from Judaism, and Islam descended from Christianity, therefore are you saying that Christianity descended from evil and helped spawn it? To me, those facts are proof that humanity, as a race, will not know the truth until we reach the second life.



I said that you ACT infallible, not that you are infallible.



And as I've said before, the Jews refused to acknowledge that they may be wrong, as did the Muslims, yet you condemn them both for it. How can you be so sure that they're both wrong? There's always a possibility that in creating the holy books of any religion things were forgotten or left out, because the people who did so were men, and thus capable of doing things wrong.



You appear arrogant because you claim to be infallible, as only Christ was. Therefore, why not claim yourselves to be the messiahs? You sure act like it.



Why exactly? Because I don't think that anyone except Christ and the Lord can be wrong? Because I disagree with you?


Let's see what the bible has to say about this, since you all quote it and seem to think that it justifies your own cause and no others...


Luke 6:31 Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

I showed a willingness to understand your viewpoint, and on a couple points yielded and admitted you were wrong, yet none of you even admitted the POSSIBILITY of yourselves being wrong. Had I followed the bible exactly, I would be treating you with the same level of disrespect you had been treating me.

Billy Bob Jenkins, I can see by your last sentence that according to that bible passage, then if you were religiously wrong, you would prefer that someone laugh at your fate as opposed to offer assistance, correct?

Matthew 19:14 Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for "of such is the kingdom of heaven."

I pray to Christ on a nightly basis, reciting the Lord's Prayer and regularly stating my thankfulness for what I have been given in life. Yet Thomas W stated that if I am not a regular practitioner, this must serve no purpose other than intentional annoyance of the Lord, and he seemed to discourage me from doing so, despite it being directly in opposition of Christ's request in that passage.

Luke 6:37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"

I attempted not to judge your actions, but suggested other possibilities alternate to your beliefs. I was branded as a liar. I did not condemn your beliefs. I was told I am going to hell. I stated a willingness to understand or acknowledge your beliefs. You did no such thing.

James 4:11-12
Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

I believe that needs no explanation of its own.


"And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother's eye."
Luke 6:41-42 NKJV

Where I have told you that you MAY be wrong, and admitted that I was wrong multiple times, you have told me time and time again that I was wrong, and refused to acknowledge any truth in my words.


"Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming." Matthew 25:13

Going from this passage, although rejecting their faith for another may not be, one could argue that condemning the Muslims for claiming Mohammed to be a prophet is going against the bible.


And although you have all condemned me despite stating I believe in and accept Christ as savior...
"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" John 11:25, 26

/thread

Hopefully, this type of argument gets through since any argument involving superior logic and reasoning do not.

Lo and behold ye ignorant zealots! The book you hold to be completely and utterly right has been used to prove your own close-mindedness and blasphemy!

[Hockey2010]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

I don't know how many times we need to repeat ourselves son. We know God is right because it says so in the bible. you haven't even read the bible! why should we listen to you when your views are based off nothing! God is not the only one pulling the strings, of course other satanic religions formed, they were created by demons to try and trick true christians into eternal damnation.

it says right there on the first page! In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth



exactly. we know we are right and you are wrong, we don't have to be wrong just because you were. Think about it, God sent you to this website so you could see just how wrong you are. If you fail to listen that's your problem.

please go back to your heathenous demonic websites and enjoy your stay in hell

I admitted I was wrong in the hopes that you would see that you are perhaps fallible yourselves, and as I've said, any being ever to inhabit a human body short of Christ Himself is capable of being wrong and will be wrong in their lives, yet you seem to think that you aren't, your only "proof", if you can call it that, is that you read the bible, whereas the Jews think they're right because they're Jews, and the Muslims think they're right because they're muslims. You are acting the exact same and seem to think you're still better than them, whereas all man is created equal.

Also, you say that all religions other than Christianity were satanic. Christianity descended from Judaism, and Islam descended from Christianity, therefore are you saying that Christianity descended from evil and helped spawn it? To me, those facts are proof that humanity, as a race, will not know the truth until we reach the second life.

All other religions reject the Living God®. Mohamud is dead. Buddha is dead. Moses is dead. But Jesus Christ rose from the dead. He lives! And He gives us Eternal Life™.

How can your side be stronger if we are infallible and you are wrong?

I said that you ACT infallible, not that you are infallible.

If we acknowledged your viewpoint, we would go to Hell right along with you! It isn't some sort of magic that keeps us out of Hell. We aren't just special. It is what we believe that brings us Salvation™!

And as I've said before, the Jews refused to acknowledge that they may be wrong, as did the Muslims, yet you condemn them both for it. How can you be so sure that they're both wrong? There's always a possibility that in creating the holy books of any religion things were forgotten or left out, because the people who did so were men, and thus capable of doing things wrong.

We only appear arrogant because we are so glorious. But the Jews, the Muslims, and the Catholics are truly arrogant because they lie and convey a false glory.

You appear arrogant because you claim to be infallible, as only Christ was. Therefore, why not claim yourselves to be the messiahs? You sure act like it.

If you could find support for this in the KJV1611, then you might have a case, but there is nothing like that in the Bible. Sorry, bub. Better luck next time. Oh wait. There is no next time. You'll burn in Hell for all eternity. Sorry. Not! Enjoy Hell, freak!

Why exactly? Because I don't think that anyone except Christ and the Lord can be wrong? Because I disagree with you?


Let's see what the bible has to say about this, since you all quote it and seem to think that it justifies your own cause and no others...


Luke 6:31 Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

I showed a willingness to understand your viewpoint, and on a couple points yielded and admitted you were wrong, yet none of you even admitted the POSSIBILITY of yourselves being wrong. Had I followed the bible exactly, I would be treating you with the same level of disrespect you had been treating me.

Billy Bob Jenkins, I can see by your last sentence that according to that bible passage, then if you were religiously wrong, you would prefer that someone laugh at your fate as opposed to offer assistance, correct?

Matthew 19:14 Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for "of such is the kingdom of heaven."

I pray to Christ on a nightly basis, reciting the Lord's Prayer and regularly stating my thankfulness for what I have been given in life. Yet Thomas W stated that if I am not a regular practitioner, this must serve no purpose other than intentional annoyance of the Lord, and he seemed to discourage me from doing so, despite it being directly in opposition of Christ's request in that passage.

Luke 6:37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"

I attempted not to judge your actions, but suggested other possibilities alternate to your beliefs. I was branded as a liar. I did not condemn your beliefs. I was told I am going to hell. I stated a willingness to understand or acknowledge your beliefs. You did no such thing.

James 4:11-12
Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

I believe that needs no explanation of its own.


"And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother's eye."
Luke 6:41-42 NKJV

Where I have told you that you MAY be wrong, and admitted that I was wrong multiple times, you have told me time and time again that I was wrong, and refused to acknowledge any truth in my words.


"Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming." Matthew 25:13

Going from this passage, although rejecting their faith for another may not be, one could argue that condemning the Muslims for claiming Mohammed to be a prophet is going against the bible.


And although you have all condemned me despite stating I believe in and accept Christ as savior...
"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" John 11:25, 26

[christiansRsosilly]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

You christians sure are silly. So if one of you idiots actually would play the game, you'd realize that you stupid crazy christians out there would get the idea that the devil (though he doesn't exist) some how created the game. What else? God's a spaghetti monster.

"By playing this game, you will be gay.", says the Christians who don't know shit about games. It's a game man. The story is, Captain Duke left karrigan in that planet and then karrigan was taken by the zerg. She then became the new leader of the Zerg. Which is what that "devil" thing you see there. So before you idiots want to ruin a game for the whole entire world that people who was waiting 10 years for it to come out, then you can go kill yourself. Just because your own son turns gay doesn't mean that you have to ruin it for a huge majority of people. It'll be like taking Jesus out of the bible. Ya, would you want that?

Even though Jesus doesn't exist.

My conclusion is that, YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS and that God's a giant spaghetti monster!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

And the previously stated religions also thought that they had no need to convert because they were correct. In your actions you are no different, and it is simply pathetic that you try to argue with "Yeah but we're us and they're them."

All other religions reject the Living God(r). Mohamud is dead. Buddha is dead. Moses is dead. But Jesus Christ rose from the dead. He lives! And He gives us Eternal Life(tm).

You act as if you are infallible, and I'm wrong simply because I disagree with you, as opposed to the strength of the sides of discussion.

How can your side be stronger if we are infallible and you are wrong?

The only being to this day to inhabit the body of a man and be infallible was Christ Himself.

And we believe exactly what Christ believes, to the letter. It is the KJV1611! His Living Word(c)! Praise!

Unless you claim to be the second coming, I suggest you stop being so full of yourselves that you refuse to acknowledge any other viewpoints.

If we acknowledged your viewpoint, we would go to Hell right along with you! It isn't some sort of magic that keeps us out of Hell. We aren't just special. It is what we believe that brings us Salvation(tm)!

John 3:36 (King James Version) 36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Although it may not directly be a sin, I'm rather sure arrogance isn't a necessity along the path of the just. In principle, you are no different than the Jews who refused Christ, or the Muslims that accepted Mohammed.

We only appear arrogant because we are so glorious. But the Jews, the Muslims, and the Catholics are truly arrogant because they lie and convey a false glory.

Matthew 7:15 (King James Version) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

And it's not so simple as believing in what God believes.

Yes, it is. Glory be!

The fact that multiple religions have been spawned shows that no man truly knows the exact truth in religion.

I know the Truth(c), because I have read it in the KJV1611! Hallelujia! Amen! Praise Jesus!

There is no actual proof that any religion is any more correct than the others, and it all comes down to personal faith. Call it heathenism or blasphemy, but it is the truth, and in my eyes it only adds to the test of faith that is life.

If you could find support for this in the KJV1611, then you might have a case, but there is nothing like that in the Bible. Sorry, bub. Better luck next time. Oh wait. There is no next time. You'll burn in Hell for all eternity. Sorry. Not! Enjoy Hell, freak!

[ChristDad]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

And the previously stated religions also thought that they had no need to convert because they were correct. In your actions you are no different, and it is simply pathetic that you try to argue with "Yeah but we're us and they're them."

You act as if you are infallible, and I'm wrong simply because I disagree with you, as opposed to the strength of the sides of discussion. The only being to this day to inhabit the body of a man and be infallible was Christ Himself. Unless you claim to be the second coming, I suggest you stop being so full of yourselves that you refuse to acknowledge any other viewpoints. Although it may not directly be a sin, I'm rather sure arrogance isn't a necessity along the path of the just. In principle, you are no different than the Jews who refused Christ, or the Muslims that accepted Mohammed.

And it's not so simple as believing in what God believes. The fact that multiple religions have been spawned shows that no man truly knows the exact truth in religion. There is no actual proof that any religion is any more correct than the others, and it all comes down to personal faith. Call it heathenism or blasphemy, but it is the truth, and in my eyes it only adds to the test of faith that is life.

I don't know how many times we need to repeat ourselves son. We know God is right because it says so in the bible. you haven't even read the bible! why should we listen to you when your views are based off nothing! God is not the only one pulling the strings, of course other satanic religions formed, they were created by demons to try and trick true christians into eternal damnation.

it says right there on the first page! In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth

at least three times now I have admitted that I was wrong and all of you have scoffed at the idea of admitting you may be wrong.

exactly. we know we are right and you are wrong, we don't have to be wrong just because you were. Think about it, God sent you to this website so you could see just how wrong you are. If you fail to listen that's your problem.

please go back to your heathenous demonic websites and enjoy your stay in hell

[Hockey2010]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

Are you seriously trying to compare yourself to Christ?

Really friend, the idea without any knowledge of Christianity that you might be right about it utterly absurd. That's like hiring a plumber with know knowledge of plumbing. Your coming across as quite arrogant and closed minded yourself.

Am I? Because at least three times now I have admitted that I was wrong and all of you have scoffed at the idea of admitting you may be wrong.

Also, I am not comparing myself to Christ, I am comparing you to the non-believers in that both believed they could not be wrong, and obviously someone had to be.

Don't be silly, Atheist secretly know God REALLY exists and do disgusting things like make websites pretending to be believers just to mock God. We TRUE Christians™ of Landover Baptist are nothing like Atheists.

That is the real reason we TRUE Christians™ hate role playing games like Starcraft. They let people pretend to be someone else and hide from other people.

The definition of atheism is believing God does not exist, and in mocking God that is being a member of some other belief structure.

[Hockey2010]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

Why would we be wrong just for wanting to be right?

If we didn't we would be wrong.

Yes, but we are not Jews.


That is why you will be seeing them in Hell.

God is always right. So we believe what God believes and we are always right.

I would have to smoke a pound of crack to understand you.

And the previously stated religions also thought that they had no need to convert because they were correct. In your actions you are no different, and it is simply pathetic that you try to argue with "Yeah but we're us and they're them."

You act as if you are infallible, and I'm wrong simply because I disagree with you, as opposed to the strength of the sides of discussion. The only being to this day to inhabit the body of a man and be infallible was Christ Himself. Unless you claim to be the second coming, I suggest you stop being so full of yourselves that you refuse to acknowledge any other viewpoints. Although it may not directly be a sin, I'm rather sure arrogance isn't a necessity along the path of the just. In principle, you are no different than the Jews who refused Christ, or the Muslims that accepted Mohammed.

And it's not so simple as believing in what God believes. The fact that multiple religions have been spawned shows that no man truly knows the exact truth in religion. There is no actual proof that any religion is any more correct than the others, and it all comes down to personal faith. Call it heathenism or blasphemy, but it is the truth, and in my eyes it only adds to the test of faith that is life.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

I have already said that I haven't read the bible, and at the same time, you aren't correct just because you want to be.

Why would we be wrong just for wanting to be right?

You have all utterly refused to believe that I MAY be correct.

If we didn't we would be wrong.

Hey, you know what that reminds me of? You know who utterly refused to believe someone was right a long time ago? The Jews utterly refused to believe that Christ was the son of God.

Yes, but we are not Jews.

The Muslims utterly refuse to believe that Mohammed is not God's prophet.
Atheists utterly refuse to believe God exists.

That is why you will be seeing them in Hell.

My point being, if you are stuck in your ways and don't listen to anybody, you will eventually be wrong.

God is always right. So we believe what God believes and we are always right.

None of you appear have made an attempt to understand my thoughts on the topic, but instead label me as a satanic future murderer on the express lane to hell.

I would have to smoke a pound of crack to understand you.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: StarCraft II: Gets children raped and promotes gays in the ar

I have already said that I haven't read the bible, and at the same time, you aren't correct just because you want to be. You have all utterly refused to believe that I MAY be correct.

Hey, you know what that reminds me of? You know who utterly refused to believe someone was right a long time ago? The Jews utterly refused to believe that Christ was the son of God.

Are you seriously trying to compare yourself to Christ?

Really friend, the idea without any knowledge of Christianity that you might be right about it utterly absurd. That's like hiring a plumber with know knowledge of plumbing. Your coming across as quite arrogant and closed minded yourself.

The Muslims utterly refuse to believe that Mohammed is not God's prophet.

Atheists utterly refuse to believe God exists.

Don't be silly, Atheist secretly know God REALLY exists and do disgusting things like make websites pretending to be believers just to mock God. We TRUE Christians(tm) of Landover Baptist are nothing like Atheists.

That is the real reason we TRUE Christians(tm) hate role playing games like Starcraft. They let people pretend to be someone else and hide from other people.