[TheIsaac]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

Oh and also, I would suggest you change everything you've said about minecraft. It is an innocent game. Your whole "walking penises" thing is a mistake, as they are simply four-legged made up creatures. Your "porn pic" was not drawn by a child, but by an immature, silly 18 year old. There are many much worse games in existence. "Notch", the creator of minecraft has created a much safer gaming environment than most other games, and with much purer intentions then you claim. "griefing" is the act of destroying someone elses work, and is carried out by idiots who enjoy the suffering of others, and is not a tool for blackmail. Also, at this point, setting up a server is useless without something unique to offer. For this reason, the only people who would really be ina position to blackmail would be the hackers behind the server, and if it's really that good of a server that people should join, I doubt they would be the kind of person to use griefing for blackmailing, let alone turning someone into a sex slave.
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[TheIsaac]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

John O'Neill, I am disappointed. It is apparent to me that the Catholics have degraded the term saint. To them, a saint is above the rest. To us, the brothers and sisters in the church are the saints. As what out practices and beliefs resemble yours very much, comparing us to catholics is comparing your selves to them as well.
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[Levi Jones]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

Again, I am writing on my iPhone, so I would like to make this quick. I can see your understanding is developed, but I think there is also flaws in yor understanding. Firstly, you take your verses out of the King James Bible. While this is without a doubt one of the better translations of the bible, it is also wrong because it was translated in a way that preserved the wording but failed to preserve the deeper meaning. For this reason I would like to suggest to you the Recovery Version.

You didn't lose nearly as much credibility with your age as you did with this statement. You are the first one of Witness Lee's cult members I have actually run across.

If anyone wants to study up on the Recovery Church's heresy, check here and here.

[TheIsaac]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

You have an incredible choice of sources. This is not a cult, it's a faith, and it is not demonic or whatever you may say of it in the least. This article you chose to link is one of the many articles people published trying to make witness Lee look like some kind of crazy whackjob on crack. Anyone could create a site and enter made up information about you, and your reputation would go down with every person who believed what it said. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a group if atheists who posted that as well as hundreds of other articles to make other religions look stupid. If I were to insult the people who inspire you to preach and do the will of God in a certain way, would you not be offended? The recovery version is not just the bible of the local church, it's an accurate bible that was worked on for a long time by a true lover of the lord. On top of that, your article failed to provide ANY evidence as to why what he said is in fact wrong, and that the fruit that was borne was in fact tragic rather than marvelous- even more reason to think it's a fabrication. I'm sorry but the extreme offense I take in what is written in there can't be understood by proud factors such as yourselves- so stay like you are, rot in your doctrines, and on the day of judgement.. Well, I hope you may have changed by then. But this just goes to show how low people will stoop to attack people they dislike. Forget it. I'm leaving this god-damned site forever. Besides, your religion is full of death, lack of life. You rely too much on the word and none on your spirit. You are like a train without fuel. I was hoping I could change you, but your lowly methods have successfully warded me away. I hope you're happy.

Call me what you want now, it doesn't bother me. I am saved and I love the lord, and I have the knowledge that I am part of his great plan, and that is more than enough for me. Your hypocrisy is staggering. You should be ashamed. Levi Jones, I am tempted to say "I hope you burn in the lake of fire", but instead I'll leave it with this: I hope you're happy with the path you chose. I hope for your sake that God is happy with the path you will end up on.

Good bye.
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[Levi Jones]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

Call me what you want now, it doesn't bother me. I am saved and I love the lord, and I have the knowledge that I am part of his great plan, and that is more than enough for me. Your hypocrisy is staggering. You should be ashamed. Levi Jones, I am tempted to say "I hope you burn in the lake of fire", but instead I'll leave it with this: I hope you're happy with the path you chose. I hope for your sake that God is happy with the path you will end up on.

Good bye.
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Oh go and ahead and say you hope I burn. The Holy Spirit is telling me I'll be on the right hand of Jesus in the end.

Taken from a review here.

3. Unusual Renderings

There are some unusual renderings. These might or might not be related to the peculiar doctrines of The Local Church. Examples noted:

• Luke 2:19 – An interpretation (commonly accepted) has been added: “To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, the year of jubilee.”
• Luke 2:52 – “And Jesus advanced in wisdom and stature and in the grace manifested in Him before God and men.”
• Luke 24:49 – “And behold, I send forth the promise of My Father upon you; but as for you, stay in the city until you put on power from on high.” (Most translators have rendered the last part: “until you have been clothed with power from on high”; the disciples are passive in what happens, not actively putting on this power.)
• John 7:39 – “...for the Spirit was not yet, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.” (That is a literal translation, but has usually been understood in the sense of the Spirit had not yet been given, rather than suggesting that the Spirit did not yet exist! Cf NRSV: “for as yet there was no Spirit”.)
• John 8:44c – “When he [i.e. the devil] speaks the lie, he speaks it out of his own possessions; for he is a liar and the father of it.”
• Acts 5:17 – “the local [ουσα] sect of the Sadducees”.
• Acts 7:7 – “’And whatever nation they will serve as slaves I will judge,’ said God, ‘and after these things they will come forth and serve me as priests in this place.’”
• Acts 11:20 – “ But there were some of them... who came to Antioch and spoke also to the Greeks, announcing the Lord Jesus as the gospel.”
• Acts 13:1 – “Now there were in Antioch, in the local [ουσαν] church, prophets and teachers...”
• Romans 1:17 – “For the righteousness of God is revealed in it out of faith to faith, as it is written, ‘But the righteous shall have life and live by faith.’”
• Romans 3:26 concludes: “...so that He might be righteous and the One who justifies him who is of the faith of Jesus.”
• Romans 5:10 concludes: “...much more we will be saved in His life, having been reconciled...”
• Romans 6:5 begins: “For if we have grown together with Him in the likeness of His death...”
• Romans 9:6 commences: “But it is not as though the word of God has fallen away...”
• 1 Corinthians 11:24 concludes: “...this do unto the remembrance of Me.” (similarly with v 25)
• 1 Corinthians 14:12 commences: “So also you, since you are zealous of spirits...”
• 1 Corinthians 14:38 – “But if anyone ignores this, let him ignore it.”
• 1 Corinthians 15:45 concludes: “...the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit.”
• 2 Corinthians 1:21 – “But the One who firmly attached us with you unto Christ and has anointed us is God...”
• 2 Corinthians 5:6,8,9: “...while we are at home in the body, we are abroad from the Lord... We are... well pleased to be abroad from the body and at home with the Lord. Therefore also we are determined, whether at home or abroad, to gain the honor of being well pleasing to Him.”
• 2 Corinthians 11:28: “Apart from the things which have not been mentioned, there is this: the crowd of cares pressing upon me daily, the anxious concern for all the churches.”
• Ephesians 1:10 begins: “Unto the economy of the fullness of the times...”
• Ephesians 3:9 begins: “And to enlighten all that they may see what the economy of the mystery is...”
• Ephesians 4:14 concludes: “...in craftiness with a view to a system of error...”
• Ephesians 5:18 – “And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissoluteness, but be filled in spirit...”
• Ephesians 6:17 – “And receive the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which Spirit is the word of God...”
• 2 Thessalonians 3:2 – “And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and evil men, for the faith does not belong to all.”
• 1 Timothy 2:8 – “I desire therefore that men pray in every place, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and 5 reasoning...” [Footnote 5: Disputatious reasoning.]
• Titus 1:9 – “Holding to the faithful word, which is according to the teaching of the apostles, that he may be able both to exhort by the healthy teaching and to convict those who oppose.”
• Hebrews 2:9 – “But we see Jesus, who was made a little inferior to the angels because of the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death on behalf of everything.” (Verse 7 also has the phrase “a little inferior to the angels”.)
• Hebrews 3:2 – “Who was faithful to Him who constituted Him...”
• Hebrews 7:12 – “For since the priesthood is transferred, of necessity there comes into being a transfer of law also.”
• Hebrews 10:22 begins – “Let us come forward to the Holy of Holies with a true heart in full assurance of faith...”
• Hebrews 10:26 – “For when we sin willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains of sacrifice of bulls and goats for sins...”
• Hebrews 10:35 – “Do not cast away therefore your boldness, which has great reward.”
• 1 Peter 3:13 – “The co-chosen in Babylon and Mark my son greet you.”
• 2 Peter 1:1 includes: “...those who have been allotted faith equally precious as ours...”
• 2 Peter 3:9 concludes: “...not intending that any perish but that all advance to repentance.”
• 1 John 4:9 concludes: “...God sent His only begotten Son into the world that we might have life and live through Him.”
• 1 John 5:18 concludes: “...but he who has been begotten of God keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him.” (Cf KJV)
• 3 John 10 begins: “For this reason, if I come, I will bring to remembrance his works which he does, babbling against us with evil words...”
• Jude 19: “These are those who make divisions, soulish, having no spirit.”
• In Revelation 7:2; 8:3-5; 10:1-10; 18:1-3 the translators have interpreted the angels in those visions to be Christ (explained in footnotes), so capitalise Angel and He, Him, His (when referring to the Angel).
• Revelation 17:14 – “These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and they who are with Him, the called and chosen and faithful, will also overcome them.”

Edit: Also the Recovery version has almost as much commentary as text of nothing but Lee "explaining" how the translation should be read and how it applies to his ideas of what the doctrine should be.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

Before I start, I would like to inform you that all of your criticism on my typing skills has gone to waste. were I typing on a computer, I assure you I would have done all those things. However, the iPhone has an autocorrect on "its" for some reason, turning it into "it's", which is rather impractical when I am being unattentive. The same goes for removing the capital on Him. Knowing this, your only valid statement was that about not capitalizing "Baptist". But everyone makes mistakes, including you.

So your excuse for not being reverent to God is that you are too lazy to take the time?

Proverbs 21: 25The desire of the slothful killeth him; for his hands refuse to labour.

Firstly, you take your verses out of the King James Bible. While this is without a doubt one of the better translations of the bible, it is also wrong because it was translated in a way that preserved the wording but failed to preserve the deeper meaning. For this reason I would like to suggest to you the Recovery Version. The King James version was translated by I believe 40 scholars over a period of 3 years. The Recovery Version took over 10 years and was written in a very special way by dedicated saints who were professional translators. They looked first at the Hebrew verse and studied the meaning. Then they looked at the verses from every other version of the bible and chose the verse with the closest meaning and then embellished it, making it as close to the original Hebrew as possible. They did this for every single verse, starting with genesis, ending with revelation. Then, an extraordinary brother called "Witness" Lee, with help, dedicated Many hours every dayfor many many years to learn what the bible meant, and add footnotes on everything. For this reason, I suggest graduating from the King James version and using the Recovery Version. I think you will find much more understanding of the bible in it as well as much more life in it.[/quote]

1. Brother Levi is right. The "Local Church" thing IS widely considered a cult, but every person who's not already a member of that cult.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/l40.html

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ahein/jim_moran_local_church.html

http://www.lcinfo.org/?page=home

http://thebereans.net/prof-cor.shtml

http://www.tolc.org/la.htm

http://www.fact-index.com/l/lo/local..._movement.html
http://www.bcbsr.com/topics/lc.html?

http://www.christianforums.com/t724309/

"Whoever made the "Recovery Bible" apparently just took J.P. Green's LITV and edited it to conform with the Critical Text. Jay Green's LITV is based on the Received Text (the same Greek text as the KJV) in most places - Green does depart from the Received Text without so much as a note at times. Anyway, since 1881 when Westcott and Hort invented a new "Original" Greek Text (the Critical Text) and since the Revised Version (which later became the American Standard Version) was translated from it, almost all modern translations have been made from it rather than the Received Text. Just about the only modern (that is post-KJV) translations of the Received Text are the New King James and J.P. Green's translations (Modern King James, King James II, and LITV for Literal Version).

The "Recovery" Version doesn't recover anything. It is basically the NIV with a more rigid style. It has removed the same words, phrases and verses as the NIV, NASB, NRSV, etc. have (because it has been brought into conformance to the corrupt and fabricated text that they were based on).

In short, I see something wrong with the "Recovery Version." It is not a Bible, but a doubt mechanism and a perversion."

Excuse me if I don't hold this book of your cult leader in the highest regards.

The KJV is the only suitable English version of the Bible. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible...king_james.htm

But, go ahead. From the Bible quotes I posted, what did I get wrong? How did your version fix it? What's the proper meaning?

When Christ died on the cross, he entered into us as the Life Giving Spirit, and every human now has a spirit. The spirit is the link from man to God, something man can use to communicate with God. Repentance only requires a turn to our spirit, so God can expose us of our sin, and then a little cooperation.

Where does it say any of this in the Bible? Or is it only in the Bible that your cult uses?

You also say that you cannot sin. This is the falsest thing you have said. Every man sins. There is no way to completely stop sinning. According to the bible, every time you feel hatred towards another human being, you are committing murder. That every time you think about a member of the opposite sex (to whom you are not married) in a sexual or arousing way you are committing fornication. To say that you have lived your life since being saved without committing a single sin is a complete lie.

It's not a lie at all. You just can't admit it because you'd have to admit you are not saved. http://www.stopsinning.net/ This website has many great articles explaining the Bible thoroughly.

Romans 5:14 Death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned.
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not.
3 John 11 He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

You people are very self centered if you think that God made us just so we could go to heaven and live happily ever after.

I don't believe that. I believe God created us so that we can worship Him. Because that's actually in the Bible.

Isaiah 43: 21 This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.

Oh, also I've noticed you have an award related to the earth bring flat? Even the scriptures say "the sphere of the earth", so you may want to look into that...

I don't know what verse you are talking about, as that is probably from your mistranslated (per)version. Do you mean this one?

Isaiah 40: 22It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:


A circle is flat. There is no reason to mistranslate it as "sphere".



"
The critical line in Hebrew reads (transliterated and omitting vowels): hyshb 'l hwg h'rtz, which my colleague Dr. Robert Suder translates: "the one dwelling on the circle/horizon of the land."14 A survey of Hebrew lexica and theological wordbooks15 yields much information about the key word hwg (chûgh).16According to K. Seybold, its root appears six times in biblical Hebrew, and it is clear from its usage in context that it has a specifically geometrical meaning, that is, "a circle, as drawn with compasses." In Job 26:10 and Prov. 8:27, chûgh is used with choq, meaning "to inscribe a circle."17 This nominal infinitive form also appears in Job 22:14, where it denotes "the circle of the heavens" (shamayim), and in Isa. 40:22a, where it denotes "the circle of the earth" (haarets). Sir. 43:1218 uses chûgh in describing the rainbow. Finally, in Isa. 44:13, mechûghah, a hapax legomena (a form used only once), means "a compass," i.e., that simple instrument people my age used to draw circles in high school geometry class.19
All but one of these contexts are cosmological, and in fact four of the five uses of chûgh occur in creation hymns. Isa. 40:22a describes God as sitting/ dwelling above "the circle of the earth" which God laid out--with a compass, as Job 26:10 and Prov. 8:27 suggest, for the latter verses describe the act of inscribing the circle that fixes the boundary between the earth and the deep, the circle that also marks the boundary between light and darkness.20 The context also suggests that in Isa. 40:22a, the earth ('erets) which is encircled refers not to the earth as that part of the creation distinct from the heavens (Gen. 1:1)--as the creationists cited above seem to interpret it--but to other meanings of earth: as "the dry land" (Gen. 1:9-10), and at the same time, it appears, as "the ground on which people and things stand," for "its inhabitants are like grasshoppers."21

A circle is no more a sphere in Scripture than it is in geometry.

Looking at these usages together, I am hard put to see how anyone could justify rendering chûgh in Isa. 40:22a as "sphericity."22 The earliest translations of these Scriptures bear this out. In the Septuagint (LXX), the translators render the nominal and verbal forms of chûgh in every case with the Greek gýros (noun), "circle" or "ring," which they use in Isa. 40:22a, or gyróo (verb), "to make or inscribe a circle."23 Gýros does not mean "sphere,"24 and in fact nowhere in any Greek recension of the Hebrew Scriptures will one find the proper word sphaíra used in this context at all.25 The history of the formation of the LXX is largely lost, and we do not know if the Prophets were translated in Alexandria as the Torah was in the third century BC.26 But if they were and if the translators were familiar with the concept of a spherical earth taught at the Museon of Alexandria, then the center of Greek science, they give no hint of it in their translation of chûgh." http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2001/PS...Schneider.html

[Pippin]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

This is truly ridiculous.

Honestly. You are bashing whole religions, and that's not very christian-like at all.

Minecraft is a game, its a form of entertainment. It's no worse than hosting a website, at all.

About the statement on the IP. Do you even understand anything about Internet Protocol? Unless you call the ISP you can't track them down any more than a 50-60 mile radius!

On top of that, its a childish game. I love the game, I am also a proud Christian.

I can believe in Jesus, and still play a mild game for fun.
The worst thing you do in it is destroy some blocks, and what does that turn into? A wonderful home.

I honestly thought this was satire when I read it. This truly saddens me. The part about "The American way of eating at McDonalds." I thought god wanted you to TAKE CARE of your body. Not trash it with lard and fat.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

Minecraft is a religion now? It's worse than I thought!

[TolerantAtheist]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

Minecraft teaches children that you can create your own tools by combining ingredients instead of the American way of ordering online or going to Walmart. It teaches children they can farm their own food instead of teaching them the American way of going to McDonald's. It teaches them to waste huge amounts of time on making their own buildings instead of the American way of buying a house with borrowed money! It teaches children to be creative instead of watching commercials on television! All this clearly damages and ultimately destroys the American economy! It can be no coincidence that this game was created while Obama is in office!

I'm sorry, what?

I... I'm speechless of how dumb this statement is, everything the OP said is just... dumb, i'm sorry but, no, I can't think of anything good to say at all

[HarryJones]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

the Asians that programmed this junk, and Lucifer were the ones that put this filth online.

Never in my life have I ever been more offended by words. So now I can see that Christians are RACIST assholes.hmm. As an Asian, I can proudly say FUCK YOU

[TheIsaac]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

Oh dear, it appears I lied as I am back to lower your standard.

Proverbs 21: 25 The desire of the slothful killeth him; for his hands refuse to labour.

"Minecraft teaches children that you can create your own tools by combining ingredients instead of the American way of ordering online or going to Walmart. It teaches children they can farm their own food instead of teaching them the American way of going to McDonald's. It teaches them to waste huge amounts of time on making their own buildings instead of the American way of buying a house with borrowed money! It teaches children to be creative instead of watching commercials on television! All this clearly damages and ultimately destroys the American economy! It can be no coincidence that this game was created while Obama is in office!"

Let me point out all af the laziness in there:
Minecraft teaches children that you can create your own tools by combining ingredients instead of the American way of ordering online or going to Walmart. It teaches children they can farm their own food instead of teaching them the American way of going to McDonald's. It teaches them to waste huge amounts of time on making their own buildings instead of the American way of buying a house with borrowed money.
And if being slothful is a sin in your eyes, then I'm sorry but "Cranky old man" and "Heathen_basher" need to be saved.

And what about this?!
It teaches children to be creative instead of watching commercials on television!

What is this?! No freedom to think and do something constructive? That's why people like you can't find jobs! I swear, it's like your cult is teaching communism, and if anything destroys the American economy, it's communist supporters.

And now let me expose you of your apparent sin:
It can be no coincidence that this game was created while Obama is in office!

Racism is disliking other people and their culture. Blaming someone for someone just because of their skin tone is so unrighteous, to think your cult thinks of itself as righteous just proves that you are all hypocrites. Also, you appear to be KKK supporters - you know what the KKK does? It murders people whom they are prejudiced against. Not only are the victims not given a choice, but then you act proud of it. You are proud to take innocent lives! [sarcasm]How righteous can you possibly get?[/sarcasm]
Really, if it weren't for trash like you, prejudiced against African Americans, maybe there would be more good jobs available. Maybe the blacks could earn an honest living, rather than be forced to pick up bad habits to survive, just because you people make a straw dummy argument generalizing black people as criminals? You have an award on this forum with the description "Negro criminal (although that's redundant)". What the hell is wrong with you people?!? Do you have any dignity left to save? You are the worst of sinners! I am astounded. Obama must be a hundred times more righteous than all of you put together!

Just for note, you beloved apologetics index labels baptism a heresy, so every time you listen to what that site has to say, you're digging your grave DEEPER.
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[Meek and Humble]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

[QUOTE=TheIsaac;694208]Oh dear, it appears I lied as I am back to lower your standard.

Let me point out all af the laziness in there:
Minecraft teaches children that you can create your own tools by combining ingredients instead of the American way of ordering online or going to Walmart. It teaches children they can farm their own food instead of teaching them the American way of going to McDonald's. It teaches them to waste huge amounts of time on making their own buildings instead of the American way of buying a house with borrowed money.
And if being slothful is a sin in your eyes, then I'm sorry but "Cranky old man" and "Heathen_basher" need to be saved.

Firstly, I think it should be noted I have a job. I WORK ON A FARM. If everyone started growing their own food, then I would lose my job, and thousands, if not millions of people in the restaurant and grocery business would lose their jobs. Furthermore, if everyone grew their own food, nobody would have time to do anything else and society would collapse back into pre-industrial days. Is that what you want?

What is this?! No freedom to think and do something constructive? That's why people like you can't find jobs! I swear, it's like your cult is teaching communism, and if anything destroys the American economy, it's communist supporters.

I'm REALLY interested how you equate supporting capitalism via advertising is communistic.

Racism is disliking other people and their culture. Blaming someone for someone just because of their skin tone is so unrighteous, to think your cult thinks of itself as righteous just proves that you are all hypocrites. Also, you appear to be KKK supporters - you know what the KKK does? It murders people whom they are prejudiced against. Not only are the victims not given a choice, but then you act proud of it. You are proud to take innocent lives! [sarcasm]How righteous can you possibly get?[/sarcasm]
Really, if it weren't for trash like you, prejudiced against African Americans, maybe there would be more good jobs available. Maybe the blacks could earn an honest living, rather than be forced to pick up bad habits to survive, just because you people make a straw dummy argument generalizing black people as criminals? You have an award on this forum with the description "Negro criminal (although that's redundant)". What the hell is wrong with you people?!? Do you have any dignity left to save? You are the worst of sinners! I am astounded. Obama must be a hundred times more righteous than all of you put together!

Excuse me, but when did anyone say we dislike Obama because he is black? We dislike him because he is a democrat and a socialist and utterly incompetent. Are we only allowed to criticize politicians if they are white?

Actually, we Republicans have many blacks amongst our ranks. More black Republicans ran for congress this year than any time in history.

NYT discovers record number of black Republicans running for congress

Just for note, you beloved apologetics index labels baptism a heresy, so every time you listen to what that site has to say, you're digging your grave DEEPER.
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Hardly, I was just showing you how widespread the belief that you are in a cult is. Everyone not in your cult says so. Curious, isn't it.

But go ahead, if you have issues with the Baptist faith, tell me about them. I will answer them. I won't get all huffy and run away screaming I hope you burn in hell, like you did, just because you had no defense and the truth is uncomfortable.

[grungeroundtubby]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

The american way is to go online and walmart? I did not realize that god advocated walmart and ebay as holy land for christians.

But anyways, minecraft is a simplistic game based not around graphics or plot, but rather the simple mechanics of creativity and collecting. It is not trying to teach children to collapse the economy, it is simply to keep them entertained, just as any childs toy is mean't to do.

Personally, I have to give you credit for coming up with perhaps the most elaborate conspiracy theory I've ever heard. After all, not many people can make a direct correlation between genetic mutation and manipulation, with a cute adorable block pig . Since the entire minecraft world is made of "legos" essentially, wouldn't it make sense to make the animals lego's as well?

To state that showing a pig as something different than the real world is considered blasphemous, is like stating that you cannot show jesus in a bible cartoon because he isn't really a cartoon. Isn't wearing clothes considered blasphemous then? Because we are changing out natural "god given" skins and wearing plants and animals.

Your "pedophile" theory on how they can take childrens IP's and find where they live, yeah good luck with that one. Tell you what, I'll give you my IP and if you can find out my age and where I live within the next 3 years, I'll give you a cookie.

You should really consider this, there is a line between religion, and then there is cult. Try to figure out which side you live on.

[TheIsaac]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

gunground, thank you for that, I keep forgetting to mention that when I reply to this nonsensical thread. So much potential to be made fun of, I always forget what I have and haven't put!

@everyone who replied to me. Thank you, for everything you have said to me. It has changed me forever. I now have all the proof I need that your baptist cult is not close to the church of God. You know, the bible has the highest moral standard. It says if someone hits you, turn the other cheek so they can hit you there too. What does this tell you? A man of God should not get offensive when challenged, but should respond in a way that will not hurt their attacker. And yet, your malicious, sarcastic tone does not portray such a Godly nature, does it? No, I did not go around yelling "I hope you burn in hell", so stop enhancing the truth. I was tempted to, as you insulted people I look up to, calling us cultists —which I assure you we are not— and fundamentally doing the same thing as running around yelling "HAHA! you're going to burn in hell forever, and you deserve it!". But no, I made a choice to do otherwise. Say what you will to this — you could say it's human nature you can't overcome, but then you would be admitting that you have been sinning, and that wouldn't do, now would it? You could avoid the question and go straight to attacking me, "Hah, but you failed to do so as well", but then you would just be contributing to the point I'm making. I know I haven't managed to keep my cool, but I'm not fully mature in the divine life yet. However, I have seen my father and some brothers and sisters in the churchlife dealing with similar situations, and I assure you, they did not got cocky, offensive, or even that defensive — three things which we have clearly been doing as this quarrel progressed. As a matter of fact, their method was very righteous, and not at all offensive tothe people they were talking to. It was very impressive, and is one of the reasons I look up to them.

Hmmm. I'm sorry if this doesn't seem as emotional as it is, but...

As I've been writing this, something very uplifting just happened. As I look back, everything that's been said in this topic- by you, by me, and by everyone else- seems profoundly idiotic. I want a clean slate. I no longer want my faith to be seen as a cult, because it's not. Just now a miracle happened, and I don't want that to be degraded by you and your intolerance. In return for you leaving my faith alone, and giving it a chance as something other than a cult, I will leave you alone, for ever. I will cease to leave comments accentuating my disliking of your customs, I will cease to leave replies in defense of minecraft. If you can promise me just this, everyone can be happy.

I just hope you don't take this as cowardice, me trying to get out of this fight, because it's not. I strongly believe that my faith is right, and I won't stop you from believing yours, so please, please, I beg of you, cease this nonsense.

This could be the last you hear of me-
Goodbye. I hope we all end up on the right path before the lord comes back, whichever path it is.

In return I will leave
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[simple-minded sem]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy

gunground, thank you for that, I keep forgetting to mention that when I reply to this nonsensical thread. So much potential to be made fun of, I always forget what I have and haven't put!

@everyone who replied to me. Thank you, for everything you have said to me. It has changed me forever. I now have all the proof I need that your baptist cult is not close to the church of God. You know, the bible has the highest moral standard. It says if someone hits you, turn the other cheek so they can hit you there too. What does this tell you? A man of God should not get offensive when challenged, but should respond in a way that will not hurt their attacker. And yet, your malicious, sarcastic tone does not portray such a Godly nature, does it? No, I did not go around yelling "I hope you burn in hell", so stop enhancing the truth. I was tempted to, as you insulted people I look up to, calling us cultists —which I assure you we are not— and fundamentally doing the same thing as running around yelling "HAHA! you're going to burn in hell forever, and you deserve it!". But no, I made a choice to do otherwise. Say what you will to this — you could say it's human nature you can't overcome, but then you would be admitting that you have been sinning, and that wouldn't do, now would it? You could avoid the question and go straight to attacking me, "Hah, but you failed to do so as well", but then you would just be contributing to the point I'm making. I know I haven't managed to keep my cool, but I'm not fully mature in the divine life yet. However, I have seen my father and some brothers and sisters in the churchlife dealing with similar situations, and I assure you, they did not got cocky, offensive, or even that defensive — three things which we have clearly been doing as this quarrel progressed. As a matter of fact, their method was very righteous, and not at all offensive tothe people they were talking to. It was very impressive, and is one of the reasons I look up to them.

Hmmm. I'm sorry if this doesn't seem as emotional as it is, but...

As I've been writing this, something very uplifting just happened. As I look back, everything that's been said in this topic- by you, by me, and by everyone else- seems profoundly idiotic. I want a clean slate. I no longer want my faith to be seen as a cult, because it's not. Just now a miracle happened, and I don't want that to be degraded by you and your intolerance. In return for you leaving my faith alone, and giving it a chance as something other than a cult, I will leave you alone, for ever. I will cease to leave comments accentuating my disliking of your customs, I will cease to leave replies in defense of minecraft. If you can promise me just this, everyone can be happy.

I just hope you don't take this as cowardice, me trying to get out of this fight, because it's not. I strongly believe that my faith is right, and I won't stop you from believing yours, so please, please, I beg of you, cease this nonsense.

This could be the last you hear of me-
Goodbye. I hope we all end up on the right path before the lord comes back, whichever path it is.

In return I will leave
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Yeah..... me gonna do the same
Good call TheIsaac

I shall leave this topic for ever and hope people who feel the same do the same.

Kind Regards,

Sem Abraham