[Bananas_on_Bread]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

We are not killing them. The Authorities are.

But wouldn't it be better to try to get them on our side? Have them see why they are wrong? JESUS calls us to "Love others as I have loved you" John 13:34. He didnt say "love only believers" but a vague "others"

[Didymus Much]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

But wouldn't it be better to try to get them on our side? Have them see why they are wrong?...

Uh, just what do you think they're doing here, aside from telling everyone else (who is not a True Christian™) that they're wrong?

...JESUS calls us to "Love others as I have loved you" John 13:34. He didnt say "love only believers" but a vague "others"

Uh, yes, He did. Let's look at the COMPLETE VERSE:

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

Does that say "everyone" or "one another"? Keep in mind that in this entire passage, He is addressing His disciples (a closed group).

And to put this to bed, here's the very next verse:

John 13:35 "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."

Unless you're claiming that there are now ~7.5 billion disciples?

Read the Bible, the WHOLE thing, not just bits and pieces, k?

[Bananas_on_Bread]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Uh, just what do you think they're doing here, aside from telling everyone else (who is not a True Christian™) that they're wrong?



Uh, yes, He did. Let's look at the COMPLETE VERSE:

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

Does that say "everyone" or "one another"? Keep in mind that in this entire passage, He is addressing His disciples (a closed group).

And to put this to bed, here's the very next verse:

John 13:35 "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."

Unless you're claiming that there are now ~7.5 billion disciples?

Read the Bible, the WHOLE thing, not just bits and pieces, k?

From my understanding if the bible, all believers are His disciples and what he says to the original disciples I are guidelines for the next disciples

[Didymus Much]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

From my understanding if the bible, all believers are His disciples...

1) I never claimed otherwise. Did you misunderstand my meaning in the term "closed group"?

closed groups and open groups
A Dictionary of Sociology | 1998 | GORDON MARSHALL | 381 words | Copyright
closed groups and open groups These terms are sometimes applied to social groups or organizations which have (respectively) fairly impermeable boundaries, and therefore little interaction with outsiders, or permeable boundaries with few barriers to relations with outsiders. Thus, there can be open and closed religious sects, clubs, committees, military élites, and so forth.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O88...pengroups.html

2) Never mind your understanding, what does the Bible say? If you want to claim the Bible says something, quote Scripture or be quiet, thanks.

...and what he says to the original disciples I are guidelines for the next disciples

Even if you take that route, what I said about Him addressing a closed group, and those remarks referring to that group only, stands. Jesus never told anyone to love everyone.

[Snipper]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Someone launching ad hominem (that's a fallacy, btw) calls others "idiots"? Lovely.

How often does groundlessly belittling others work for you?



And "my dad can beat up your dad (but he won't, because he's conveniently out of the country for the forseeable future)" is equally factual.

The sad thing is, I knew you were going to respond like that.

Go look up "unfalsifiable" and see how it's incompatible with logic.

The sad thing is, I knew you were going to respond like that

As you've shared nothing but your personal opinion, there's nothing to disbelieve.

Is me sharing my opinion really such a problem? Just because I don't have some Bible quote to back it up.

[Didymus Much]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Is me sharing my opinion really such a problem?...

When did they start teaching kids that they have to "respect" everything and everyone, no matter how ridiculous, heinous, or just plain evil (looking at you, Roman Catholic Church)?

Your opinion does not, and never will, demand respect just because it's your opinion. When you can justify your opinion, that's a different story.

As far as I'm concerned, you're quite welcome to share your opinion. However, the rest of the world reserves the right to tell you just how wrong you are (if that is the case).

...Just because I don't have some Bible quote to back it up.

Here, that's proof enough that you're wrong.

So go read yourself some Bible, find something in there that justifies your opinion, and bring it back, or admit that the Bible says you're wrong and the True Christians™ will always think you're wrong (because they agree with the Bible, durrr).

[Snipper]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

So your entire argument is basically this, "You're crazy and dangerous because you are religious."

Thank you for your persecution, dear. The LORD promises to bless us for this (Matthew 5:10 -11).

No, you're crazy and dangerous because you threaten people who you don't know with death and 'eternal damnation'. As I've said before, I don't hate religion, especially if it makes a good person. And I actually feel ok about you because you haven't sent me death threats yet. But the majority of people here are uppity, big-headed lunatics who damn people they don't even know. That's when religion becomes bad.

[Snipper]

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Wrong again, nancyboy. Read my sermon entitled "Seven Easy Ways to Tell Which Bible Version is The ONE TRUE Word of God."

What if I told you I was a girl? I'm not reading your damn sermons either. You think you're special? You think you're closer to God than me? Get real. It's so sad that people like you are so insane, so far gone, that you'll just outright reject someone else's opinion because it's different to yours. And like I said, you didn't even have the courtesy to read all of what I wrote. And I doubt you will this time either. It is a known fact that there are numerous Bibles and that it is constantly changed. Get over it. Stop treating me like your enemy, okay?

[Snipper]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Of course he wouldn't. He's an atheist so he refuses to believe in the Word of God even with the mountains of evidence that support the existence of God.

You do realize that HE'S the Christian and I'M the Atheist, right?

[Didymus Much]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

No, you're crazy and dangerous because you threaten people who you don't know with death and 'eternal damnation'...

God does that. These people are just letting you know what the Bible actually says (instead of the false picture that's been painted for you by people who do not want you to know the truth).

...As I've said before, I don't hate religion, especially if it makes a good person...

Cite an example. Just one.

...And I actually feel ok about you because you haven't sent me death threats yet...

Why did you put "yet" there? You're not "poisoning the well", are you?

...But the majority of people here are uppity, big-headed lunatics who damn people they don't even know...

Again, no one here has that power, and they know it. God does that stuff.

...That's when religion becomes bad.

What, when God gets involved?

[Snipper]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

When did they start teaching kids that they have to "respect" everything and everyone, no matter how ridiculous, heinous, or just plain evil

I could literally say the same thing to you. At least I'm young. You're obviously older than me, and yet you're out of your mind. You are being educated by someone who is a hell of a lot younger than you. And apparently everything I say has to be backed up by a Bible quote does it? I'll back up what I said right now- The fact is that people on this website (such as you) are looked upon as insane by the outer world (the normal people, or as you would call them 'sinners') I have told a good deal of people about this ridiculous website, and the funny thing is, every single one of them either laughed, gasped at how utterly stupid it was or shook their heads in disapproval at some of the lunatics here. Your right, I shouldn't respect something ridiculous or plain evil. And that's why I won't respect any of the psychos on here. Normal Christians? Sure I'll respect them. But not psychos, sorry.

[Didymus Much]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

You do realize that HE'S the Christian and I'M the Atheist, right?

1) Do not capitalize atheist, it's not a proper noun (unless it's the first word of a sentence, of part of a group name, like American Atheists).

2) Did you really miss my "Arrogant Atheist Dick" title, or the "awards" the admins here have blessed me with, like "Atheist", "Hellbound Heathen", or "Perv" (ok, maybe I deserve the last one )? Do not confuse someone agreeing that the Bible says something with them agreeing with what the Bible says.

[Snipper]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Really? Can you please post the Scripture that backs you up on this? Because MY Bible says something quite different.

Well your Bible is a rewritten version (one of many thousands) of the original Bible that was built for the sole purpose of pleasing insane sadists like you (probably by a sadist)

[Didymus Much]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

... I'll back up what I said right now- The fact is that people on this website (such as you) are looked upon as insane by the outer world...

That's called "appeal to popularity or majority" (follow the link to learn more about the fallacious arguments you've been presenting, and why they just weaken your case).

...And that's why I won't respect any of the psychos on here. Normal Christians? Sure I'll respect them...

"Normal" Christians do not follow the Bible, therefore they are NOT Christian.

Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

...But not psychos, sorry.

At least the True Christians(tm) not hypocrites, so they deserve more respect, IMO.

[Snipper]

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Someone who overlooks my "Arrogant Atheist Dick" Title, and the "awards" my "friends" have blessed me with (such as "Hellbound Heathen", "Evilution", and "Perv" [ok, maybe I deserve that one ]), is asking others how blind they are? Interesting.



Because that's what the Bible says to do, and they do what the Bible tells them to.



If you read the Bible, what they do would make sense to you, too.



*cough* Riiiight.



Because the Bible says it's an evil influence (are you seeing a pattern here, yet?). Anything that distracts you from praising God, smiting His enemies, praising God some more (and then some more), having children to praise God and smite His enemies while praising God for making sure that you weren't born as one of His enemies, is an evil influence.



Because the Bible says... know what? I'm going to condense that down to "BTBS" for the rest of this post, save some typing.

Ok, BTBS being gay is bad.



Then why are you upset that someone out in internetland thinks you're gay?



Read the Bible. It's full of it.

Okay, but why should anyone have to care about what the Bible has to say? Now I don't want a Bible quote as an answer, I don't want what the priest or whoever else told you as an answer. I want your answer.