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Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music
A thorough knowledge of music theory can be assumed in any post requiring such knowledge on a Christian forum.
Ignorance personified. A frequency is a matter of fact. There are not special "magic" frequencies to engender miraculous conduits where otherwise we'd be grovelling in darkness. The cycling of pressures in the air as it impacts the eardrum (very simply) accounts for our description of what musicians do. Wow! It's the same as cycling of tensions in the string producing its sound in the first place! But that's not magic.
The length of your second is immaterial. A string (or a column of air in a pipe) will oscillate at the same rate regardless of seconds or hours or centuries—or Potrzebies for that matter—and could be defined in those terms. Now clearly a Potrzebie unit would relate to wavelength but elsewise the frequencies you're obsessing over could be expressed using any time unit you preferred. Oscillations per century is a bit ham-fisted when tempering a scale (for example to quantify the differences between strings and pipes) but absolutely possible. Similarly regarding seconds. If a second were twice as long then there'd be double the oscillations per second it really is back to a-b-c- isn't it.
That's because the length of the second, a point you've already raised in your post, would not admit 666 as a frequency of tempo. As a pitch class, however, it could be quite easily a fundamental frequency. Such scales have been produced. The reason why they're irrelevant is because the unit of time is arbitrary. You could just as easily adjust a C-256 to be a C-666 by altering the length of your second, but you don't seem to understand this.
Trance techno as vomited forth in Goa or similar Portuguese strongholds and anywhere hippies have a stranglehold over musical taste do run stuff quite a bit faster than that. Usually a good three hours before sunrise. So they say. But as an aficionado you wouldn't need to be told that.
This really is the crown upon droppings from canines. Not so long ago you were saying that units of time were arbitrary. Just by quadrupling the length of your minute a BPM 4 times faster could be achieved and all the (imaginary) benefits of specific frequencies developed into a new harmonic spectrum.
The obvious problem here, by your own standard, is that resonant frequencies generated in the human body—such as the knees, the sinus cavity, the aorta or the pelvic floor—would remain the same and any impetus for healing (or demon possession) would be unaltered.
Now there is music today where drums are played. The scaled kettle drums of Carl Orff are verboten where Christians assemble, even if kettle drums are admitted, for a reason. Aphrodite triumphs in no Church. Maniacs belt out the metal (overtly glorifying evil, by their own account such as the raison d’âitre for metal abomination "Children of Bodom") yet somehow strangely you seem not to know these facts.
Cymbals are not drums.
Here is a fundamental problem. Tones are not "devised" by anyone. Sure, about 3 millennia ago, someone described them. But they'd been the same ever since sound was possible. Music comes first. NEXT, someone describes what it is that musicians are doing. PYTHAGORAS launched the "theory" here but exactly what microtonal variations were employed so long ago we can only imagine. Very few ancient instruments survive to supply their melodic scales. Sure, we can guess, but.........
Big gap here. We know what eastern music sounds like. However the "frequencies" fed by your compulsion have no standing of their own accord. They do not relate any absolute standard other than the resonant frequencies of the human body. Therefore a specific pitch class could be defined as so many multiples of the resonant frequency of a bodily cavity. The skull, used in post-hypnotic trance-techno; the sinuses, used in buddhist polyphonic overtone singing; the knees and ankles (each having their own specific resonant frequencies) used in vibroacoustic therapies for arthritis and similar, in this case transmitted by contact; the pelvic floor, stimulated by relatively low frequencies referring to no absolute standard beyond what causes the resonance itself: would you like it in Potrzebies?
Here the fundamental frequency was established from the geometry of rams’ horns and the specific cycle of blastings ordered by God. Did it work? Yes: the walls fell down. Why?
Here is a different pitch relationship. David was playing strings where octave stretching becomes a factor in describing what musicians do. The effect remains consistent. It's the relationship between sound (or vibration) and the nervous system. Again these are simple observations. Wow! The proportional relationships between "musical" frequencies and those of dendrites in the auditory cortex are the same! Who would have thought? Those are the relationships endorsed by God. Do you imagine that septimal scales would have calmed Saul?
Perhaps in your introduction you could address the characteristics of oriental scales, the chromatic variations they use, how and/or why they affect neurons in the temporal lobes of the brain and to what extent other associated phenomena would be affected, according to your theory?
Originally posted by Heavenisbest
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Do you realize that the time interval of a minute is man made? We have hours in the Bible, nothing less, right? We could choose to have 50 minutes in an hour or 1000. We can choose anything we want. Same with the seconds. This is why coming to these conclusions is ludicrous.
some idiotic remarks concerning devils’ numbers excluded from this quote
The length of your second is immaterial. A string (or a column of air in a pipe) will oscillate at the same rate regardless of seconds or hours or centuries—or Potrzebies for that matter—and could be defined in those terms. Now clearly a Potrzebie unit would relate to wavelength but elsewise the frequencies you're obsessing over could be expressed using any time unit you preferred. Oscillations per century is a bit ham-fisted when tempering a scale (for example to quantify the differences between strings and pipes) but absolutely possible. Similarly regarding seconds. If a second were twice as long then there'd be double the oscillations per second it really is back to a-b-c- isn't it.
Have you ever looked at a metronome? It doesn't go anywhere near 666.
I took music for many years and never did we ever use the metronome past about 140 as I can recall.
To think that something is going to be 4 times faster is ridiculous to the extreme. Post on subject you have actual knowledge on!
The obvious problem here, by your own standard, is that resonant frequencies generated in the human body—such as the knees, the sinus cavity, the aorta or the pelvic floor—would remain the same and any impetus for healing (or demon possession) would be unaltered.
Now there is music today where drums are played. The scaled kettle drums of Carl Orff are verboten where Christians assemble, even if kettle drums are admitted, for a reason. Aphrodite triumphs in no Church. Maniacs belt out the metal (overtly glorifying evil, by their own account such as the raison d’âitre for metal abomination "Children of Bodom") yet somehow strangely you seem not to know these facts.
cymbals
The tones in western music were devised by man.
That's why eastern music sounds very different.
God didn't set the tones, did He? There are no tone setting instructions in the Bible, are there?
Joshua 6:20-21 So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Here the fundamental frequency was established from the geometry of rams’ horns and the specific cycle of blastings ordered by God. Did it work? Yes: the walls fell down. Why?
I Samuel 16:20-23 Jesse took an ass laden with bread, and a bottle of wine, and a kid, and sent them by David his son unto Saul. And David came to Saul, and stood before him: and he loved him greatly; and he became his armourbearer. And Saul sent to Jesse, saying, Let David, I pray thee, stand before me; for he hath found favour in my sight. And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.
Here is a different pitch relationship. David was playing strings where octave stretching becomes a factor in describing what musicians do. The effect remains consistent. It's the relationship between sound (or vibration) and the nervous system. Again these are simple observations. Wow! The proportional relationships between "musical" frequencies and those of dendrites in the auditory cortex are the same! Who would have thought? Those are the relationships endorsed by God. Do you imagine that septimal scales would have calmed Saul?
Perhaps in your introduction you could address the characteristics of oriental scales, the chromatic variations they use, how and/or why they affect neurons in the temporal lobes of the brain and to what extent other associated phenomena would be affected, according to your theory?
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