[Didymus Much]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

...As for the attempted insult in calling me a women...

You hadn't specified, she assumed (is all), and why the fuck would that be an insult, anyway?

[Farrier88]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

First and foremost, I made an honest observation of what I saw, and asked an honest question, by which you gave me no relevant scripture for, to support your opinion, the scripture you provided, excellent though they may be, do not answer my question. As for the attempted insult in calling me a women, you put your own judgement and character into question, and what said about women, I, as a men find very disrespectful and in poor taste.

In order to insult me, I have value your opinion, but it was a nice try though.


sincerely,
Farrier88

[Basilissa]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

Greetings and Salutation to everyone,

Hello and to our Godly forum!

I have been reading what been written on this site and those commenting in this forum, so to gain an understanding of both sides.

How thoughtful of you!

Now I am a believer in Jesus Christ, I am saved by faith in him, and his blood washed away my sins, so I have read the information provided by both side, and looked them all up in the king James bible, and am a little lost as to how you all have come to the conclusions you wrote, I agree that there are demonic music out and I would not be surprised to learn that is some rap and rock a roll, but I am curious as to how you know that all things you are saying are true and not just an opinion.

We try to support everything we say with the Holy Bible. Occasionally, we also listen to good Christian authorities, such as Pat Robertson:

Evil and sin are usually a lot more obvious to a believer in Christ, because it can be fun, I won't lie, but I am having a difficult time agreeing with you all, the scriptures provided by this site are not a definite proof, because the only way to know if something is a actual fact in scriptures, is by correlating it with other scriptures,

Are you accusing us of taking the Scripture out of context?

else you may fall prey to having an false impression of the true meaning, I honestly see an opinion more then an actual fact.

Please feel free to engage in a discussion, and please do not forget to cite the Bible often and thoughtfully. You see, we are not interested in your opinions, just in God's opinions as expressed in the Holy Bible.

And just because I know that most words will be taken out of context, I will add this, nothing anyone says will change my salvation in Jesus Christ, point in fact no one man has the true authority to make that judgement.

So no one man has the true authority to make the judgment whether you are saved or not. That is a fine opinion, but I would like to note that you are a man and therefore according to your own opinion, you have no authority to say whether you are, indeed, saved, or just another sinner on his way to Hell.

I am not for or against this site as of yet, I have seen the evil of this world and know of the power that sin has over us, I am not oblivious to the effects of music, but I a little curious as to where exactly in scripture you find your evidence to back up your statements.

The Bible says that we should abandon worldly things (1 John 2:15), and non-Christian music belongs in that realm.In fact, I have a strong suspicion that most artists are more interested in praise of men than in praise of God (John 12:43). God does want us to sing Christian songs, as that joyful noise pleases God (Psalm 71:23, Psalm 95:1, Psalm 105:2, Psalm 104:33, Colossians 3:16, Ephesians 5:19).

I hope that was helpful.

[BrotherLarry]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

Sister Farrier,


The homo font you used suggests that you must be a female - well, that and your incessant rambling, since a man would have said what he had to say and then moved on quickly.


If you are a true seeker of Christ's wisdom, don't ask US to prove what we believe. Indeed you'll find that the vast majority of our members provide scriptural backup to their statements because we believe the Bible is THE source of ALL knowledge. (2 Timothy 3:16-17) We are by no means anti-music. We have an entire thread dedicated to repurposing secular music and inserting Biblical, spiritual lyrics in place of the devil-inspired words of the original artists, many of whom are known devil worshippers (Marilyn Manson, Anne Murray, Ozzy Osbourne, Cher, and the infamous Vanilla Ice). Our duty as True Christians (tm) is to teach and lead others in the ways of Christianity (2 Timothy 2:2). If we just let people listen to their Crocodile Rock and their Sugar Sugar, we will have to answer to Jesus Himself one fateful day (Matthew 12:36).


I pray fervently that you will relinquish your judgmental ways, for although it is not my duty to judge you, it is my duty to judge your actions (1 Corinthians 6:2-3). May you find the reality that is full and unfettered Christianity one day soon.


BrotherLarry

[Farrier88]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

Greetings and Salutation to everyone,
I have been reading what been written on this site and those commenting in this forum, so to gain an understanding of both sides. Now I am a believer in Jesus Christ, I am saved by faith in him, and his blood washed away my sins, so I have read the information provided by both side, and looked them all up in the king James bible, and am a little lost as to how you all have come to the conclusions you wrote, I agree that there are demonic music out and I would not be surprised to learn that is some rap and rock a roll, but I am curious as to how you know that all things you are saying are true and not just an opinion. Evil and sin are usually a lot more obvious to a believer in Christ, because it can be fun, I won't lie, but I am having a difficult time agreeing with you all, the scriptures provided by this site are not a definite proof, because the only way to know if something is a actual fact in scriptures, is by correlating it with other scriptures, else you may fall prey to having an false impression of the true meaning, I honestly see an opinion more then an actual fact. And just because I know that most words will be taken out of context, I will add this, nothing anyone says will change my salvation in Jesus Christ, point in fact no one man has the true authority to make that judgement. I am not for or against this site as of yet, I have seen the evil of this world and know of the power that sin has over us, I am not oblivious to the effects of music, but I a little curious as to where exactly in scripture you find your evidence to back up your statements.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

Oh no,well i'm going to hell now, I guess its so bad that i once played a B flat one on my trumpet, or a minor scale, oh nooooooooo.

That sounds like a septimal interval, known to heathens as the "blue" 7th. Produced by brass instruments but whether it's a B-flat would depend on the register of the thing I suppose. Also appearing as septimal 3rds (major & minor) and seemingly adored by blues singers, these intervals are inseparable from voodoo and express the anguish they feel in lives divorced from Christ.

GALATIANS 5 KJV .. look up
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

People who sing blue notes, or generate them with trumpets, are indistinguishable from the savage lusts and lewd gyrations which typify all pop music. The anguish of the heathen in turn is plain to see, the inevitable result of lifestyles dedicated to dream fetishes or 96 hour back-to-back elektronica debauches or very popular these days accompanied by brass and whatever goes on in darkened areas of the marquee (most of it) I don't want to know!

I suppose there are tricks to get different intonations:

EXAMPLE suitable for adults only

..but slice it where you like HELL is all you gonna get. All pop music is demonic for this reason, that the "blue" notes express an inner torment. Torment coming from demons to bring us down. Down. Down. Down.

Torment made flesh in the savage lifestyle, in heathen sensibilities, in every dive and disco.

And there all shiny o'er gin-sodden carpets flies the trumpet, oozing blue insinuations, giving voice to anguish where Christ would lift us up.

JAMES 4 KJV ..look up
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

Thank you Jesus,

..Thank you Lord.

[Brother Harold Porter]

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Oh no,well i'm going to hell now, I guess its so bad that i once played a B flat one on my trumpet, or a minor scale, oh nooooooooo.

That is up to God. But keep in mind that God wants us to sing to Him:


Matthew 26:30 "And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives"


Psalm 104:33 "I will sing unto the LORD as long as I live: I will sing praise to my God while I have my being."


Never mind any foolish instruments, just praise Him with your voice!


In Christ

[SomeRadnomGuy]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

Oh no,well i'm going to hell now, I guess its so bad that i once played a B flat one on my trumpet, or a minor scale, oh nooooooooo.

[handmaiden]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

Dear NonDenominationGirl;

Gee, you sure spent a lot of time trying to teach us about music! Do you think that anyone here cares? We care about telling the world what the Bible says. We Luuuuve telling people what the Bible says. We even get a kick out of telling them what it doesn't say. That's basically what we do here--day in and day out. Why,it's almost like a song that keeps playing over and over again. So, get on the same page of sheet music, okay?


Non-rhythmically Yours,


Handmaiden

[Didymus Much]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

...Plus, I've copied this entire post onto a Google docs using my email...

What's that going to prove aside from that you enjoy wasting your own time, and others computer resources?

...so if you guys decide this isn't America and remove my free speech...

"Free speech" is a concept found in (among other places, but I'm sure this is the occurrence you're referring to) the US Constitution. The Constitution delineates the powers and responsibilities of the Government. As this website is NOT government owned or sponsored, the Constitution DOES NOT APPLY HERE, and your right to "free speech" DOES NOT EXIST HERE. Please excuse any exasperation you may detect on my part after explaining this very basic concept to several thousands privileged idiots, like yourself.

Now why don't you make good use of your time and actually READ the Constitution, and see what it really says and means, so you don't go making yourself look like a spoiled, entitled, stupid idiot with the next people you attempt to discuss these matters with? That'd be great.

Repeat same paragraph as above, replace "Constitution" with "Bible".

...I'll just post it again!...

Getting banned for pointless rudeness only proves that you were banned for pointless rudeness, not that you were right.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

You're quite full of spunk, aren't you?

Do you often go around to different churches and tell men what to do and call them names, or are we special to you?

[NonDenominationGirl]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

Hi!


I'm Sophia! I'm also a Christian and a believer in God. This article drew my attention because I absolutely love music. I play many instruments, including the violin, viola, piano, cello, and bass. And since I also love Jesus Christ, I wanted to know what I should be doing concerning music. I became disappointed while reading it, however, because I thought it would be informative. Now, before we get started, I want to say that I will be as polite as possible. I will not make any biased statements towards you or your church. I just want to point out some major fallacies in this article that are pertaining to music.

Rhythm is one of the most basic elements of any song, and also the most dangerous. Certain rhythms can lead to toe-tapping, dancing, fornication, drug use, murder, and self-mutilation.

I just want to say... How are those even in the same category? Toe-tapping and murder? Dancing and self-mutilation? Take a moment and listen to yourself. How does that even work?

The most righteous time signature is 3/4 time, which is in praise of the Holy Trinity.

There is no such thing as 3/3 time because Satanic music theorists want to prevent full glorification of the Holy Trinity.

I say this as a music student and not as a satanic music theorist, just so you know. Let me just drop some knowledge here. A time signature is represented by two numbers, the top and the bottom. The top number represents how many beats are in a measure of music, and the bottom number represents what note gets the beat. The reason why there is no 3/3 time signature is because THERE IS NO THIRD NOTE. There are quarter notes, (as in the time signature 4/4) half notes, (as in the time signature 2/2, aka cut time) eighth notes, sixteenth notes, and many more. But I'm sorry, there isn't and never will be a third note. It's not possible. You can try and make one if you like, but I can already tell you it won't work.

Drums have their roots in the dark continent of Africa where the voodoo hoodoo is just rampant.

Now, I just happen to be black and apparently "from the dark continent of Africa". That's just racist. And extremely rude. Are you calling all black people voodoos, then?

Christians should avoid any music that is played in any key except for C Major, which is the only key in which music can be played on the piano without using any of the black keys.

Now, there was a nice gentleman who made the point earlier that the keys C, E, and G are a C Major chord, but can also be a minor chord. You told him that whoever told him that was stupid and lying. That would mean you are calling all music professors, teachers, and the entire music community stupid. And I'm pretty sure they know more than you on this subject.

Playing the white and black keys together on the piano is glorification of race mixing and desegregation. GOD HATES ACCIDENTALS!

This is another one of your extremely racist statements. Are you saying that black people should still be giving up their seats for whites on the bus? Still drinking from bad water fountains? Still being beat up and lynched on the street? Still be unable to sit where they want to at restaurants? Still be educated in terrible schools? Because if that's what you're saying, you are most definitely NOT a true Christian, or whatever it is you people call yourselves.


Not only that, but you are musically incorrect again. I'm going to drop some more knowledge here, if you don't mind. Every single scale on the piano can be played with black keys. Yup, even C Major. How? There are things called half steps. A interval in music is the distance between two notes. So a whole step would be, for example, the distance from C to D. Now a half step would be the distance from C to C sharp. So if you wanted to play the C Major Chromatic scale, which is the entire scale, guess what?


You use black keys!


Meaning there is absolutely no scale that is okay for Christians to listen to, therefore damning all music ever. That sound about right?


One more thing I want to draw attention to. One of the icons you have is a picture of a naked butt shaking. Isn't that immoral, and just plain gross?


I think that's about all I want to say. If I remember anything else, I promise, I'll post it. Plus, I've copied this entire post onto a Google docs using my email, so if you guys decide this isn't America and remove my free speech, I'll just post it again!


Have a nice day everyone! God bless!

[haiduk]

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[Alvin Moss]

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I think that any music that causes foot tapping or any other rhythmic motions is risky and may lead to dancing and only the Lord knows what else. Popular music especially doesn't offer praise to the Lord whatsoever. It is used in dancing and other sinful activities. I believe it has had as done as much damage to society as the dope.

[Youth Minister Harry]

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Ooh I bet you all hate Slayer then

No. They hate Slayer's music, which tempts people to follow Satan, in their opinions (backed up by the Bible, as shown).

What does a slayer sound like? What is a slayer? Are we talking about the teen TV program with the high school girl who seduces teen boys into becoming vampires so she can rape them and have them all for herself? Disgusting! What a self-centered little hussy! I just want to smack her little face.