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  • Eric Young
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    • May 2009
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    #1

    Advice needed

    So, I am new here, and I was wondering if I could get some advice. I come from a Christian home and have gone to church my entire life, but I struglle with homosexuality. I realize that it is wrong, but I can't seem to stop myself from finding men attractive. What do I do?
  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

    #2
    Re: Advice needed

    Originally posted by Eric Young View Post
    So, I am new here, and I was wondering if I could get some advice. I come from a Christian home and have gone to church my entire life, but I struglle with homosexuality. I realize that it is wrong, but I can't seem to stop myself from finding men attractive. What do I do?
    Tell us about yourself, friend. How old are you? What church do you attend?

    Through Jesus all things are possible.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • Eric Young
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      • May 2009
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      #3
      Re: Advice needed

      I am 19 years old. I go to a Christian and Missionary Alliance church in Pennsylvania. I have had these feelings since I was eleven, and have never been able to do anything about them. The media says so many things about homosexuality... like that it's ok and what not, but the Bible says differently. It's all kind of confusing.

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      • Pastor Ezekiel
        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
         
        • Sep 2006
        • 78556

        #4
        Re: Advice needed

        Originally posted by Eric Young View Post
        I am 19 years old. I go to a Christian and Missionary Alliance church in Pennsylvania. I have had these feelings since I was eleven, and have never been able to do anything about them. The media says so many things about homosexuality... like that it's ok and what not, but the Bible says differently. It's all kind of confusing.
        Well the media is controlled by joos, so you can't believe them.

        Have you spoken to your pastor about this perversion that is gripping you? I assume that you know that God hates the hobby of sodomy, and that you will be assured a place in hellfire for even entertaining such a notion...
        Who Will Jesus Damn?

        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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        • Bob4God
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          • Apr 2008
          • 5274

          #5
          Re: Advice needed

          Originally posted by Eric Young View Post
          I am 19 years old. I go to a Christian and Missionary Alliance church in Pennsylvania. I have had these feelings since I was eleven, and have never been able to do anything about them. The media says so many things about homosexuality... like that it's ok and what not, but the Bible says differently. It's all kind of confusing.
          Son, it shouldn't be confusing at all. The media is not your guidebook to life, the Bible is!

          Let's look at what the Bible says about gays, shall we?

          "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
          " -Leviticus 20:13

          That's right, GOD mandated the DEATH PENALTY to homosexuals in the Old Testament. How do you think GOD feels about such vile practices?

          My guess is that, as with so many homosexuals, you are a product of your environment and have decided it's "cool" to be gay. Well, is it cool with GOD?

          "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature" -Romans 1:26

          No! GOD calls these "vile affections!" GOD designed love, sex and marriage to be between a man and a woman! You are railing against the divine creation of a GOD who loves you so very deeply that He sent His own son to die temporarily to allow you to live for eternity! (Unless you continue to rebel, in which case GOD will boil you in hellfire for eternity to teach you just what happens to His disobedient children!)

          Won't you give up your homosexual hobby and love JESUS instead? Doesn't it sound so much more enticing to worship GOD forever and ever?

          I will pray that you make the right choice!
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          • Manny
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            • Feb 2009
            • 53

            #6
            Re: Advice needed

            Originally posted by Eric Young View Post
            So, I am new here, and I was wondering if I could get some advice. I come from a Christian home and have gone to church my entire life, but I struglle with homosexuality. I realize that it is wrong, but I can't seem to stop myself from finding men attractive. What do I do?
            SIMPLE --

            The standard is that every human being he can be happy and healthy if you have a love life and sex.

            Many just feel happy and satisfied with persons of other sex - but in the same way, many just feel happy and satisfied with persons of the same sex.

            BEING GAY IS NOT SIN?

            No. You can be sinful, eg overwhelming other people, damaging them, exploiting them, making them suffer, leading them to any kind of decline, whether it be homosexual or heterosexual. Being gay does not worsen anything - or better - as well as changes nothing be man or woman, have blue eyes or brown. Is just another dimension of things. It's always good to remember that the Bible also describes the deep love between two men: "Jônatas and David made a covenant because he loved him as to his own soul." (I Samuel 18:1-4). Words of David on Jônatas: "You were my deliciously sweet, your love I was more precious than love of women." (II Samuel 1:26).

            If we believe that God made us in his image and likeness, and that God is the great creator - ie: it is creative ... - Where we see the creative quality in higher intensity in humanity? It is among the artists? Among the artists are not also a higher rate of homosexuality? It is an incredible beauty that God just go to the most excluded and say, 'I want you to speak in my name, and say to the rest of humanity that I do not exclude anyone. "
            Ie: it is true that there are people who choose to exclude acts of selfishness - but, by their nature, no person was excluded - not by God.

            Once achieved this awareness by humanity, the churches that are not open to respect and accept the gays are not fulfilling what God asks of them, and therefore
            are not being truly Christian.

            God made you and loves you: GOD NO TE DELETED!

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            • Nobar King
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              True Christian™
              • Sep 2007
              • 23748

              #7
              Re: Advice needed

              Originally posted by Manny View Post
              God made you and loves you: GOD NO TE DELETED!
              The last line really sums up your whole post. Huh?
              May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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              • Brother Temperance
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                True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                A very nice young man
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 15621

                #8
                Re: Advice needed

                Originally posted by Eric Young View Post
                So, I am new here, and I was wondering if I could get some advice. I come from a Christian home and have gone to church my entire life, but I struglle with homosexuality. I realize that it is wrong, but I can't seem to stop myself from finding men attractive. What do I do?
                Jesus has some excellent advice on what you can do if your manparts are leading you into sin:

                Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
                28
                But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
                30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

                Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

                Are you able to be a eunuch for the kingdom of Heaven's sake?

                Originally posted by Manny View Post
                SIMPLE --

                The standard is that every human being he can be happy and healthy if you have a love life and sex.
                But being queer causes the AIDS, how is that healthy? Every human being can be happy and healthy if you have a loving relationship with God, and you're hardly going to establish a meaningful relationship with Our Saviour if you have to take a break from prayer every five minute to fill your mouth with some Mahommedan's tallywhacker, now are you?
                O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                • JennyD
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                  • Dec 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: Advice needed

                  Originally posted by Manny View Post
                  SIMPLE --

                  BEING GAY IS NOT SIN?

                  Once achieved this awareness by humanity, the churches that are not open to respect and accept the gays are not fulfilling what God asks of them, and therefore
                  are not being truly Christian.

                  God made you and loves you: GOD NO TE DELETED!
                  Manny, why do you hate this young man?

                  Why do you want to lead him to Hell with you?

                  The Bible is very clear that God considers sodomites an abomination, and they will not go to Heaven. Yet here you are, claiming that the Bible is wrong and you are right.

                  Does Satan give you bonus points for bringing him extra souls?
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                  • Elizabeth
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                    • May 2009
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                    #10
                    Re: Advice needed

                    Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                    But being queer causes the AIDS, how is that healthy? Every human being can be happy and healthy if you have a loving relationship with God, and you're hardly going to establish a meaningful relationship with Our Saviour if you have to take a break from prayer every five minute to fill your mouth with some Mahommedan's tallywhacker, now are you?
                    Heterosexual sex causes AIDS, too! And since when does being gay mean you have to give blowjobs every 5 minutes? Straight people can be equally guilty of nymphomania

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                    • Nobar King
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 23748

                      #11
                      Re: Advice needed

                      Originally posted by Elizabeth View Post
                      Heterosexual sex causes AIDS, too!
                      This statement is totally false. You are guilty of a complete misinformation.

                      Heterosexual sex DOES NOT cause the AIDS. Who told you that??
                      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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                      • Elizabeth
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                        • May 2009
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                        #12
                        Re: Advice needed

                        Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
                        This statement is totally false. You are guilty of a complete misinformation.

                        Heterosexual sex DOES NOT cause the AIDS. Who told you that??
                        Um, no. YOUR statement is entirely false. It's common knowledge that AIDS is caused by a virus transmitted by direct contact of bodily fluids. This can happen during heterosexual sex, homosexual sex, blood transfusions, sharing needles (in junkies), or during childbirth.

                        Why do you think AIDS is such a huge problem in Africa? Is everybody in Africa gay?

                        The ignorance here astounds me.

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                        • Brother Temperance
                          Senior Usher
                          True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                          A very nice young man
                          True Christian™
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 15621

                          #13
                          Re: Advice needed

                          Originally posted by Elizabeth View Post
                          And since when does being gay mean you have to give blowjobs every 5 minutes? Straight people can be equally guilty of nymphomania
                          Yes, they can be, but they're also capable of acting in a moral fashion and forming loving relationships. Queers can't do that.
                          Originally posted by Elizabeth View Post
                          Why do you think AIDS is such a huge problem in Africa?
                          Cos they fornicate with monkeys?
                          Is everybody in Africa gay?
                          Friend, there's no need to be racist. I think you should apologise to those poor darkies. They have enough problems as it is without you saying nasty things about them.

                          The ignorance here astounds me.
                          You're calling us ignorant? I've not seen you post a word of scripture since you got here.
                          O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                          God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                          • Sir Bernie
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                            • May 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: Advice needed

                            Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                            Yes, they can be, but they're also capable of acting in a moral fashion and forming loving relationships. Queers can't do that.

                            Cos they fornicate with monkeys?

                            Friend, there's no need to be racist. I think you should apologise to those poor darkies. They have enough problems as it is without you saying nasty things about them.


                            You're calling us ignorant? I've not seen you post a word of scripture since you got here.

                            Yes, homosexuals can form loving relationships!! Why do you think they want to get married?

                            So you think, they have this huge problems with AIDS, because they have sex with monkeys. Have you seen one to many zoophil pornos? They have that problem, because they don't have any safer sex!! A german Popstar was arrested, because she knows that she has AIDS and still had sex with a guy, who now has it, too. They can even prove that she had given it to him dased on theire DNA.


                            You really ARE ignorant. We don't give you any scripture??

                            Here is some:

                            <The virus can be transmitted:
                            • Through sexual contact -- including oral, vaginal, and anal sex
                            • Through blood -- via blood transfusions (now extremely rare in the US) or needle sharing
                            • From mother to child -- a pregnant woman can transmit the virus to her fetus through their shared blood circulation, or a nursing mother can transmit it to her baby in her milk>

                            Source: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000594.htm

                            Took me only a minute to find this. And you see, even your mother could have transmitted the HIV to you. Now if this wasn't a weird way of monkey sex...

                            Happy to hear your responses,

                            Yours Sir
                            "I have a (you might say fanatical) desire for people to use their own minds and make their own choices, based upon publicly available evidence. Religious fanatics want people to switch off their own minds, ignore the evidence, and blindly follow a holy book based upon private ‘revelation’. There is a huge difference."

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                            • Brother Temperance
                              Senior Usher
                              True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                              A very nice young man
                              True Christian™
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 15621

                              #15
                              Re: Advice needed

                              Originally posted by Sir Bernie View Post
                              Yes, homosexuals can form loving relationships!!
                              Is that sarcasm?
                              Why do you think they want to get married?
                              Because they want to destroy and discredit everything normal and good. Also, tax breaks.

                              So you think, they have this huge problems with AIDS, because they have sex with monkeys. Have you seen one to many zoophil pornos? They have that problem, because they don't have any safer sex!!
                              So you think they should wear condoms while fornicating with monkeys?
                              A german Popstar was arrested, because she knows that she has AIDS and still had sex with a guy, who now has it, too. They can even prove that she had given it to him dased on theire DNA.
                              Germany is a pit of sin. Most children there run around naked all the livelong day, they defecate on each other's chests as a way of showing affection, and no-one has the faintest idea who the women are. What does any of this have to do with anything?
                              You really ARE ignorant. We don't give you any scripture??

                              Here is some:

                              <The virus can be transmitted:
                              • Through sexual contact -- including oral, vaginal, and anal sex
                              • Through blood -- via blood transfusions (now extremely rare in the US) or needle sharing
                              • From mother to child -- a pregnant woman can transmit the virus to her fetus through their shared blood circulation, or a nursing mother can transmit it to her baby in her milk>

                              Source: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000594.htm

                              Took me only a minute to find this.
                              Where is any of that in the Bible? I want chapter and verse for that, sinner!
                              And you see, even your mother could have transmitted the HIV to you.
                              Friend, I don't know where they do things where you come from, but round here fornicating with one's own mother is seen as being rather bad behaviour.
                              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                              God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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