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  • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

    @James, my "excuse" is that I grew up around a lot of hate so I try to steer clear of people filled with it. Every time I attempted to look into Christianity and started asking questions I got attacked by the ones who claimed they would welcome me with loving arms. Pardon me for defending myself for having different opinions, I just don't think it's fair that some of you think I absolutely have to think what you think as if I'm not my own person.

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    • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

      Originally posted by KayReB View Post
      Every time I attempted to look into Christianity and started asking questions I got attacked by the ones who claimed they would welcome me with loving arms.
      Don't you see what your problem is? You ask too many questions, especially ones you would know the answer to if your parents had bothered to make you study the Bible.
      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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      • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

        @Cranky, that may very well be true. Too late to change the past but the past made me who I am. If I never asked who, what, where, when, and why in my lifetime I could have ended up as another junkie on the street. That's just the way I function.

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        • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

          Originally posted by KayReB View Post
          @Cranky, that may very well be true. Too late to change the past but the past made me who I am. If I never asked who, what, where, when, and why in my lifetime I could have ended up as another junkie on the street. That's just the way I function.
          I meant nobar not cranky

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          • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

            Either way, this thread is about how many fags play tight end in the NFL, not your failure as a Christian.
            May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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            • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

              Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
              Either way, this thread is about how many fags play tight end in the NFL, not your failure as a Christian.
              I thought the ones on this list all played wide receiver.

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              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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              • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
                Either way, this thread is about how many fags play tight end in the NFL, not your failure as a Christian.
                Agreed. I'm done here, nice talking with you.

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                • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                  Originally posted by KayReB View Post
                  Agreed. I'm done here, nice talking with you.
                  Read the Bible cover-to-cover then come back. It'll change your life, I promise!

                  Yours in Christ,

                  Z. Smyth
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                  • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                    I don't like all of this hate at all...and to me its GROSLY non christian. Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours?? Does that mean only if there not gay? Also being gay isn't a disease, its called falling in love with someone who happens to be of the same sex, I don't see why that should cause offence to anyone. Please explain this because I don't understand. My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly. If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off. I dont need to demonise different communities.

                    Id like to see what any of you guys think on the matter anyways, thanks

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                    • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                      Originally posted by liss1122 View Post
                      I don't like all of this hate at all...and to me its GROSLY non christian.
                      In what Biblical sense is that being non-Christian?
                      Psalm 139:21-22 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

                      Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours??
                      Our neighbours, yes. Foul sinners, no. A neighbor to me is someone who's my neighbor in Christ. A homosexual is not my neighbor.
                      Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
                      Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
                      Proverbs 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
                      Proverbs 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
                      Proverbs 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

                      Does that mean only if there not gay?
                      It's not just the homos. God hates ALL sinners whether they're homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27), witches (Exodus 22:18), pedophiles (Matthew 18:6), non-believers (Revelation 21:8, 2 Chronicles 15:12-13), abominable (Revelation 21:8), murderers (Revelation 21:8), whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), idolaters (Revelation 21:8), liars (Revelation 21:8), disobedient children (Exodus 21:15, Exodus 21:17), fornicators (Romans 1:29), adulterers (Leviticus 20:10), thieves (Deuteronomy 24:7), blasphemers (Leviticus 24:15) or deceivers (Romans 1:29).

                      Also being gay isn't a disease, its called falling in love with someone who happens to be of the same sex, I don't see why that should cause offence to anyone. Please explain this because I don't understand.
                      Being gay is a SIN and should actually be considered a crime punishable by the death penalty according to Biblical law. It doesn't matter if homosexuality offends me or any other True Christian™ (which it certainly does). What really matters is that homosexuality OFFENDS GOD!
                      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

                      My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly. If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off. I dont need to demonise different communities.
                      Your personal philosophy is of little relevance to us. God requires us to expose the sins of others. We don't do this in an attempt to "demonize different communities", we do this to try and show people the errors of their sinful ways and offer them a chance at redemption through Jesus Christ, just like the Bible commands.
                      1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
                      1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

                      2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
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                      2nd Timothy 6:20-21 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

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                      • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                        Originally posted by liss1122 View Post
                        I don't like all of this hate at all...and to me its GROSLY non christian. Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours??
                        Thank you for your question, friend.

                        I have a couple of resources for you to read regarding this one, which comes up rather often.

                        Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?


                        Does that mean only if there not gay?
                        Short answer, yes. If you read the frequently asked question above...

                        Also being gay isn't a disease,
                        You are right. It is a lifestyle choice that God hates. It is in the New Testament as well as the Old. Homosexuality is not to be tolerated.

                        its called falling in love with someone who happens to be of the same sex, I don't see why that should cause offence to anyone.
                        Honestly, I am not sure either, but it isn't up to me. God says it is an abomination, so I must too.

                        Please explain this because I don't understand. My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly.
                        You were saying?

                        Psalm 139:19-24
                        19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
                        20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
                        21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
                        22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
                        23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
                        24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

                        If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off. I dont need to demonise different communities.
                        I see. Do you do that when people are sitting on the railroad tracks with their music too loud while a train bears down on them? Do you just "turn the other cheek and walk away?"

                        Or do you walk up and warn them that they are about to die? What if they were doing something that could get them sent to eternal torture? Would you help them then?

                        Id like to see what any of you guys think on the matter anyways, thanks
                        You're welcome.
                        Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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                        • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                          You make some good points, and I understand, or am at least gaining more understanding on what makes you tick, I just choose to have my beliefs as well as you have yours. And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion. If it was me I would let them be gay, but if they wanted to change or get support etc, approach the church and get the guidence they wanted should they decide to be religious. I just beleive in equal rights I guess and live and let live, because the world is a lot more of a happy place when people get on, and don't fight.

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                          • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                            Originally posted by liss1122 View Post
                            I don't like...hate...Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours??...My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly...If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off...
                            #1 You are either a liar or just plain ignorant. You rally against hate, but there is no love in your heart. If you really loved these homers and were truly being "good", "friendly" and "loving" you would warn them about where they are heading. ; To put it bluntly no matter how "gay" they are there is one "straight" thing in their lives--that being the path of unrighteousness that leads "straight" to Hell!!! 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27

                            #2 You are not only a liar/ignoramus (and most likely a reprobate whore), but you are also quite lazy. What the Bible calls a sluggard. Proverbs 10:4 and Proverbs 26:14. You are too lazy to actually read your Bible, and thus far too lazy to help the homers whom you call "friends". With "friends" like you, who needs enemies? Proverbs 10:26. If you were the tiniest bit industrious instead of being a mouthy layabout you would blow the dust off the Bible and read what Jesus actually said about turning the other cheek, Matthew 5:39 and Luke 6:29. If one of these sissypants homers slaps you with his limp wrist, then you should turn the other cheek so that they can slap that as well. I guess Luke goes further and if the homer wants your pink, frilly coat you can give that to him as well. That's being proactive! That's doing something, you, slothful slug. It's showing the sinner that you are strong and have a backbone, and that you don't need a pink, frilly coat!!

                            Thank God, that Jesus didn't turn the other cheek and then walk away on us. I'll assure you that, although He loved us, He didn't "like" us or the things that we were doing. Matthew 15:22-28. If he had turned the other cheek and walked away, then we would all be Hellbound like you and the homers. Fortunately, God is neither slack nor lazy 2 Peter 2:9 and when Jesus laid down His life for us, He gave us all a chance for salvation--but if we love Him we must keep his commandments. John 15:13 and 1 John 5:3. It's not so much to ask...and one last reminder Matthew 5:17; That means all the many verses in the Old Testament condemning homosexuality remain valid for us today no matter what they say in Washington.

                            However, do keep in mind that we must follow the law of the land, so stoning is out for now and that's lucky for you! Romans 13:1-7

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                            • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                              Originally posted by liss1122 View Post
                              You make some good points, and I understand, or am at least gaining more understanding on what makes you tick, I just choose to have my beliefs as well as you have yours. And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion. If it was me I would let them be gay, but if they wanted to change or get support etc, approach the church and get the guidence they wanted should they decide to be religious. I just beleive in equal rights I guess and live and let live, because the world is a lot more of a happy place when people get on, and don't fight.
                              Someone who enables homosexuality is no better than a sodomite in the eyes of the Lord. Sure you are free to have your own unsaved opinions but that won't change the fact that you will be roasting in hell as Jesus laughs in heaven. You hate Jesus and Jesus hates you. The only way to redemption is through repentance.
                              2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
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                              2nd Timothy 6:20-21 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

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                              • Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

                                Do you even realize how ignorant you sound? You freaks are one step above Westboro. Wash O'Hanley looks like a creepy pedophile. Perhaps that is why he started this? To redirect the attention away from his gay tendencies. I guess it worked for the Catholic priests so now you guys are using it. May God have mercy on your souls. At the end you are most DEFINITELY going to need it. It's really gonna suck come Judgment Day when you realize we were right and you were wrong.
                                Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                                abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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