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  • Zechariah Smyth
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    Originally posted by Raiserguy View Post
    do you even understand what that means? or are you just reading it and not dissecting it.
    They are one yes but they are separate yes. I know it sounds crazy but it is the truth God works directly through jesus thats why they are one but they are still two different beings. its almost like if you were to have a soul and you split in half to create two beings they are the're own seperate beings yet they are the same. i dont know if that makes sense
    Splitting a soul in half?



    You've been reading too much Harry Potter. There are no horcruxes in Heaven.

    Yours in Christ (NOT DUMBLEDORE),

    Zech

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Raiserguy View Post
    Jesus does not hate anyone.
    Here are a few quotes from Jesus that reveal your ignorance.

    "DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
    "SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
    "VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
    "HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
    "CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
    "PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
    "REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
    "HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
    "FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
    "O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
    "STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
    "LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
    "ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
    "WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .

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  • Raiserguy
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    Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
    Baloney.



    (John 10:30) "I and my Father are one."

    Yours in Christ,

    Z. Smyth
    do you even understand what that means? or are you just reading it and not dissecting it.
    They are one yes but they are separate yes. I know it sounds crazy but it is the truth God works directly through jesus thats why they are one but they are still two different beings. its almost like if you were to have a soul and you split in half to create two beings they are the're own seperate beings yet they are the same. i dont know if that makes sense

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  • Raiserguy
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    these are the kinds of things that push people away from God in the first place. people preach and talk about God like he is some kind of tyrant. Yes his power is something to be feared but above that you should first love and respect God. even jesus said the most important commandement is to love God with all your heart. when did you ever see jesus preach hatred of any kind? if they are one in the same then surely God must feel the same way. because we all have our own sins you are forbidden by Jesus to judge anyone for the things they do even homosexuality which i believe the sin lies not in being a homosexual but rather engaging in homosexual acts which is no different from fornecation between to heterosexuals they are both sins. It is a misguided view and idea to think that God is a preacher of hatred in anyway that would make everything jesus preached false and i dont believe that for one second. I believe in a God of love and justice not of vengeance they are not the same

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  • Zechariah Smyth
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    Originally posted by Raiserguy View Post
    blah blah blah God and jesus are one and yet they are seperate as jesus is our lord and king but God is our GOD the one and only who is also many blah blah blah
    Baloney.



    (John 10:30) "I and my Father are one."

    Yours in Christ,

    Z. Smyth

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  • Raiserguy
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    Jesus does not hate anyone jesus hates what we do and even that maybe so that doesnt mean he loves us any less. He even stated that you should love your enemy as your love yourself for what else do you do differently than the next person.

    That statment about the iniquity thing yes jesus said In the end of days many will come to me and say see Lord did i not do many things and works in your name and I say will get thee from me you workers of iniquity. (basically meaning those who think they are doing things in the name of jesus and God are mistaken.) God and jesus are one and yet they are seperate as jesus is our lord and king but God is our GOD the one and only who is also many as the old latin version of the bible stated.

    I have followed God in my pursuit of knowledge and i know you must be careful of the devils work but God has lead me to the answer that the old testament is obselete in terms of what God wants us to do. If we were to follow the rules of the old testament we would all be going to hell in a hand basket because all of us are imperfect the rules in the past were very strict and before God destroyed us he gave us one last chance and that was jesus. when jesus was crucified the book to the old testament was closed. Jesus said i have not come here to abolish the old testament but to fulfill it. then later on he states that nothing will change from his statements until all has been fulfilled. This means that God does change things as needed and he changed the testament by fulfilling the old testament because God is no liar so when he says something will happen it must happen first then he changes things
    The old testament spoke of vengeance and things of that nature where as the new speaks of forgiveness and love which is the complete opposite.

    Im not here to convince you of anything about the bible all im sayin is there is no need for this fighting and arguing dude seriously.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Raiser77 View Post
    God himself is love. Love is forgiveness, compassion, mercy, kindness, acceptance, and patient. there is no need for all of this arguing seriously it is pointless
    You want to claim that "Jesus does not hate anyone."

    That's not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).

    Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

    Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.
    Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

    Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

    In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

    In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...

    Matt 13:41-42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
    I pray that you have found this enlightening.

    Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

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  • Raiserguy
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    WHOA WHOA WHOA WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!? why is there so much offense and hatred flying back and forth between you people. why are people attacking each other here because im sure this would not be ok with jesus. Even if these men are gay which the evidence given isnt very convincing so what if they are gay that doesnt make them any less a sinner then the next person, it has been stated that there are no more wise men in this world and there is no one perfect on this earth we are all sinners and we all struggle with different sins. How is taking personal offense or hating someone going to help anything. Jesus said blessed are those who strive for peace for they will be called the children of God. Ignore the speech of those who consider themselves athiest they are just here to antagonize people but in the same token stop spreading hatred of homosexuality because jesus said the kingdom of heaven is open to all who have faith in him and God and there is nothing further from God than hatred because God himself is love. Love is forgiveness, compassion, mercy, kindness, acceptance, and patient. there is no need for all of this arguing seriously it is pointless

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  • Odef 01
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    Originally posted by Captain James T. Kirk View Post
    Dude, every football player is gay! Entire teams of men in tight pants banging each other around? If that's not gay then I'm not getting funky with (young Kirstie Alley) Savik! And let me tell you, I am getting funky with (young Kirstie Alley) Savik! She don't need no pon farr! LOL!

    Live long and parTAY my friends!
    And did you ever notice that they are forever touching each other (spanking) on the field....the camera men must be homos too, always zooming in on it.

    GOD is GOOD!!

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Originally posted by Laurence Niles View Post
    I don't understand. If you are against Onanism and seed spillage why are you not also against queers?

    YIC
    Such a good question, Brother Niles. I mean, if one recognizes the deep hurt it causes the Sweet Baby Jesus to see a man's seed spill on the ground (or tissue or down the shower drain), then how can it not cause the LORD great distress to see seed spilled in the Drain o' Hell that is the homosexual's anus?

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  • Dr Laurence Niles
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    I don't understand. If you are against Onanism and seed spillage why are you not also against queers?

    YIC

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  • SkolVikings
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    all i have to say you are a pervert! most of these guys are men who are polite and definitely not gay! by the way i noticed you are a masturdebator the bible is against masturDebating God wanted sex to be between a man a woman not against a man and himself!

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  • Whip of Japheth
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  • Deaner
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    It's obvious I've missed most of this conversation and I am in a bit of a hurry (time to read the kids the list of God's burn in hell punishment series before they go to bed) but wouldn't it just be simpler to make all gay NFL players wear pink helmets and yellow shorts?

    That way, the other Christ fearing NFL'rs would know not to get any blood on them from these players that might make them retarded or possibly get anally raped in a group tackle?

    Also, in a group tackle, we'd know which player to stab.

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  • Cursed
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    Originally posted by Albert S
    Just in case you guys feel the need to manipulate my words for your benefit. Here you go, in it's full glory. Suck it.
    Sodomy is disgusting! Don't you have a shred of dignity or restraint?

    You are a perfect example of what happens when our children read Harry Potty, potty mouth!

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