[Elmer G. White]

Re: Drinking Bailey's makes you guilty of gay sex

KJV is out of date, which may explain some of your views - you simply read the wrong words. I guess you also think that women are inferior, fit only for domestic chores, while you prance around like a nancy, doing whatever your pastor tells you to do (keep your kids away from him, by the way. There aren't many positions that allow such ease of access to kiddies). Use the NIV, it's far superior to KJV.
Anyway, I have actually read the Bible (thank you Catholic upbringing. Not that you actually did anything for me, but you instilled ideals of hard work, honesty and equality), and yeah, it kinda does say that we all gonna get to heaven. [my emphasis]

Does it? The Bible? Or the Cat lick church. As you provided no references (Bible verses or cat lick writings), I'll help. The Bible to start with (a couple of examples is enough for now):

1st Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
Revelation 22:15
For without are dogs , and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.*

According to the Bible, it is a lie to say that "we all gonna get to heaven". See above what this means to you personally. Cat lick church, then? The Vatican spreads its doctrine eagerly. It is easy to locate. It is called the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Let's see... Par 846.

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it**.

Every one of us into Heaven. Nope. Not according to the Bible, not according to the chief capo of the cat lick mob, the master papist.

So you think that somehow, taking a few verses from a large book gives you the right to lecture others, and tell them how to live their lives? You are becoming as bad as the Muslims. At least they are honest enough to say out loud that they wish to convert everyone to their religion. You just try to wheedle your way into other peoples minds, like the demons you say you are exorcising.[my emphasis]

Actually, you rationalize this with an argumentative fallacy, the guilt by association (I'll explain more of this is necessary or useful). But, to get serious, of course we wish to convert everyone to Christianity. Only a small minority of the world's population are actual Christians™. We do this out of LOVE, to save these poor lost souls from the fiery pit of the Furnace! This is elegantly expressed by Apostle John:

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned : but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Regarding the everyone-gets-to-heaven claim, the above is also a useful verse to see how GOD ACTUALLY INTENDED IT TO BE!

I still want to tackle your username. Catch-22. A fan of Joseph Heller, are you! What a skillful writer yet misled and misleading, promoting pacifism, making ridicule of the Godly U.S. Military and pious nuclear energy. Catch-22? A regulation. If you say you're crazy you won't have to fight. But if you say you're crazy because of this, you are sane and you have to fight. A paradoxical situation from where you cannot escape. Actually a good choice for a username (see below).

It's like faith. You're a sinner, you can do God's bidding and be pious. Then you can rest and feel that you're immaculate. But if you think like that, you are filled with hubris and commit the sin of PRIDE. Catch-22, indeed? Not for us. The paradox is resolved with JESUS. His Grace and mighty power enters us and fills our deepest void. We are SAVED. Never again falling from Grace.

1st John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

We, the True Christians™ have attained that. No more Catch-22 for us. How is it for you?!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

*Although distasteful, I also have here the corrupted NIV version of the verses. 1. Cor. 6:9. "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men."
Nope, won't help you...
Rev. 22:15. "Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood." No chance here, either. Also according to NIV, it is falsehood to claim that the Bible teaches open access to Heaven to everybody. Regarding your position, the KJV and NIV actually agree.

**Interestingly, the papists spread their filth in many, many langauges. Some of these are obviously invented makebelief gibberish that derives directly from Satan. Look at this example (of Par. 845 cited above, same website). It is in the fictional "Malagasy" language (supposedly spoken in Madagascar): Noho izany, ireo izay mandà na ny tsy hiditra ao amin’ny Fiangonana katôlika, na ny tsy haharitra ao, nefa mahalala fa naorin’Andriamanitra tamin’ny alalan’i Jesoa-Kristy ho tsy maintsy ilaina ny Fiangonana katôlika, dia mety tsy ho voavonjy izy ireny". That is no language, That is an incantation and I only dare post it here because the mighty prayers of our pastors keep us safe.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Drinking Bailey's makes you guilty of gay sex

**Interestingly, the papists spread their filth in many, many langauges. Some of these are obviously invented makebelief gibberish that derives directly from Satan. Look at this example (of Par. 845 cited above, same website). It is in the fictional "Malagasy" language (supposedly spoken in Madagascar): Noho izany, ireo izay mandà na ny tsy hiditra ao amin’ny Fiangonana katôlika, na ny tsy haharitra ao, nefa mahalala fa naorin’Andriamanitra tamin’ny alalan’i Jesoa-Kristy ho tsy maintsy ilaina ny Fiangonana katôlika, dia mety tsy ho voavonjy izy ireny". That is no language, That is an incantation and I only dare post it here because the mighty prayers of our pastors keep us safe.

They also have it in Lithuanian! Why do the papists bother with the Litvaks, who are all joos and, in any case, speak the yiddic language?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Drinking Bailey's makes you guilty of gay sex

KJV is out of date, which may explain some of your views - you simply read the wrong words.

Please back up your controversial opinion with a citation from scripture.

I guess you also think that women are inferior, fit only for domestic chores, while you prance around like a nancy...

So, you think traditional gender roles are wrong, but you also use language that seeks to shame men for not living up to traditional standards of masculinity? Friend, you can't even get being a hellbound godmocking feminazi right.
Use the NIV, it's far superior to KJV. [/quote]
Please back up your controversial opinion with a citation from scripture.

Anyway, I have actually read the Bible (thank you Catholic upbringing. Not that you actually did anything for me, but you instilled ideals of hard work, honesty and equality), and yeah, it kinda does say that we all gonna get to heaven.

This nonsense has been adequately demolished above. And the idea that anyone should thank Catholics for being able to read the Bible? Friend, if you can read, thank a teacher, if you can read English, thank a soldier, and if you can read the Bible in English, then thank King James, the Reformation, and God.

So you think that somehow, taking a few verses from a large book gives you the right to lecture others, and tell them how to live their lives?

We don't cherrypick. We really, really don't do that. You're thinking of pretty much all other Christians, not us.

You are becoming as bad as the Muslims. At least they are honest enough to say out loud that they wish to convert everyone to their religion. You just try to wheedle your way into other peoples minds, like the demons you say you are exorcising.

We are very, very honest and upfront about what we believe. Say what you like about us, but we do not try and make our beliefs sound more pleasant and acceptable for unsaved public consumption.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Drinking Bailey's makes you guilty of gay sex

You are becoming as bad as the Muslims. At least they are honest enough to say out loud that they wish to convert everyone to their religion. You just try to wheedle your way into other peoples minds, like the demons you say you are exorcising.

And yet you came here voluntarily and uninvited; we did not sneak into your website, to criticize and contradict you and your people (whoever they may be). Who is wheedling their way in?

It is a reasonable assumption that someone who comes here does so out of a desire to be Saved. Why would we not try to help you?

I will pray for you.
Yours in Faith,
Joanna