[Alvin Moss]

Re: I come in peace

Or have I got that wrong?

Being wrong was the only thing you are right about. Mercia was an Anglo Saxon kingdom. The Saxons came to England after Rome fell, so what you have posited is just made up nonsense. Boudicca was a tribal chief. Also, Queen Mary was Catholic, not Protestant. She liked to burn Christians. In addition, Karl Marx didn't invent the idea of socialism. People have been trying that for centuries. Until someone invented an affluent corpse for it to feed off of, it always failed immediately. Now, with the invention of other people's money, it can stagger on for a while before it falls apart. Are you what they call educated in your part of Mexico?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I come in peace

Historical details have been covered but I should respond to your unusual claims about Marx and therefore Engels, co-author of a well dodgy manifesto and sufficiently plutocratic to bankroll Marx's dilettantism.

However the ideas of Marx could be argued to have started not just the failed experiment in the USSR.

So could the ideas of Hegel.

movements that brought in social security, education for all and movement towards a more equal society

however are more attributable to people like Lord Shaftesbury.

The problem with Marxism is that it's revolutionary. And after you've murdered everyone who actually knows how to run the joint regardless of who schlepps the profits off to their money-bin, surprise, surprise, nobody knows how to run the joint any more. Now Prussia liked to be associated with enlightened nobles, we all know that, but rather less association with the real harbingers of universal prosperity. Adam Smith comments:

“This great increase of the quantity of work which, in consequence of the division of labour, the same number of people are capable of performing, is owing to three different circumstances; first to the increase of dexterity in every particular workman; secondly, to the saving of the time which is commonly lost in passing from one species of work to another; and lastly, to the invention of a great number of machines which facilitate and abridge labour, and enable one man to do the work of many.”

I.1.5

Prosperity is generated. There is not a big bag of gold to be shared around, so much each equally or the whole lot for one duck and everyone else can starve or whatever. That is the misconception of communist propaganda and particularly of Marxist drivel so no wonder they all went bust. Engels might have been a bit more pragmatic but then you went on to Jesus. Yes, He would have met poor people but His associates were businessmen. Employers. They owned their own boats. Jesus was self employed as a carpenter and quality furniture would be as expensive then pro rata as it is now. He did not speak out against "the elite" but rather against corruption.

JESUS

MARK 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
context .. KJV

DAVID

PSALM 122:6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.
context .. KJV

JOHN

III JOHN 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
context .. KJV