Prove that god is real

[Proud_agnostic]

Look at my name (I just put "Proud" to piss people off) and you'll know why i made this

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[Levi Jones]

Re: Prove that god is real

Because the Bible says He is real. Don't you know how this works by now?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Prove that god is real

Well hey there, partner.

Can I ask you a question?

Good, how is one proud to be agnostic? I mean, aren't you agnostics fence sitting know nothings, by definition?

It seems to me you wouldn't get all worked up over us and post here to defend a position of... "Eh, I don't know."

What do you know? What can you tell us?

[Proud_agnostic]

Re: Prove that god is real

Because the Bible says He is real. Don't you know how this works by now?

Prove god is real


The bible is just a fiction story, unless you have the facts


Inb4 ban (because i'm trying to be saved)


I can't believe in the bible because there is no facts, and i wasn't herded by my parents to believe it.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Prove that god is real

Prove god is real

The bible is just a fiction story, unless you have the facts


Inb4 ban (because i'm trying to be saved)


I can't believe in the bible because there is no facts, and i wasn't herded by my parents to believe it.

I am not going to ban you for having questions.

The proof for God's existence goes as follows.

A. Over 90% of the world's population believes in some sort of God. You're telling me all those people are wrong? Of course, 99% of those people are going to hell anyway for not believing the right way, but that should offer some evidence.

B. You claim the Bible is fiction. You're saying it's 100% fiction? It says right in Luke chapter 2.

2 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.
2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

You are saying Augustus Caesar never existed? Of course he did. And it that's true, then you have some explaining to do that the Bible is fiction. Because if you believe in Caesar you have to believe in Mary's miraculous birth.

C. You remember all those martyrs in history? You're saying they died for nothing? They died for no reason. How tragic and senseless.

I don't want to live in such a cold world.

[Proud_agnostic]

Re: Prove that god is real

I am not going to ban you for having questions.

The proof for God's existence goes as follows.

A. Over 90% of the world's population believes in some sort of God. You're telling me all those people are wrong? Of course, 99% of those people are going to hell anyway for not believing the right way, but that should offer some evidence.

B. You claim the Bible is fiction. You're saying it's 100% fiction? It says right in Luke chapter 2.
You are saying Augustus Caesar never existed? Of course he did. And it that's true, then you have some explaining to do that the Bible is fiction. Because if you believe in Caesar you have to believe in Mary's miraculous birth.

C. You remember all those martyrs in history? You're saying they died for nothing? They died for no reason. How tragic and senseless.

I don't want to live in such a cold world.

A.90% believe in some sort of god. What does this say exactly, only 2 billion people believe in God (30%). I'm not saying that they're crazy, I'm saying i don't understand why they believe. Has there been a real sign? If I say "hey god hit me with a meatball" while your in a Subway and a meatball smacks me i'd say "hey"


B. What if it was written after Augustus. Or, Before he was born, we can never (maybe) know if the child was named after Augustus in the book, and then pieces were made about him.


C. Not all martyrdoms are christian. And the christian ones died for believing in a book. I admit that is horrible. They died for believing, not knowing.

[Levi Jones]

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A.90% believe in some sort of god. What does this say exactly, only 2 billion people believe in God (30%). I'm not saying that they're crazy, I'm saying i don't understand why they believe. Has there been a real sign?

I don't know what you call virgin births, walking on water, talking donkeys and snakes, magic fruit that can cause people to know good from evil, faith healing and all the other wonderful things God has done signs, I don't know what we have to talk about.

B. What if it was written after Augustus. Or, Before he was born, we can never (maybe) know if the child was named after Augustus in the book, and then pieces were made about him.

Emperor Augustus has many secular histories written about him too. He is the only one I know of. Maybe you can prove they are writing about a fake Augustus emperor who said everyone had to go home to his or her place of birth to be counted for taxation. Including a lady carrying a miracle baby riding on the back of a donkey for hundreds of miles.

C. Not all martyrdoms are christian. And the christian ones died for believing in a book. I admit that is horrible. They died for believing, not knowing.

Gosh, I never considered that.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Prove god is real


The bible is just a fiction story, unless you have the facts


Inb4 ban (because i'm trying to be saved)


I can't believe in the bible because there is no facts, and i wasn't herded by my parents to believe it.

Son, this is the stuff of the sophomoric - something you should have outgrown. Sure, we've heard it all before - and if you search around these forums you will have your answers without wasting our time and God's precious bandwidth.

I know, you have nothing better to do and may want to impress your friends with your rhetorical skills - setting off to annoy, taunt, and troll these stupid Christians - and maybe give them a real lesson in epistemology.

So far your wit can't even illuminate a small appliance bulb.

[Salvation-Bot 3000]

Re: Prove that god is real

It seems like you've run into a dilemma. If you've read the Bible, you know that it's true and cannot be challenged. if you haven't read the Bible, you're in no place to question the Word of God.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Read the Bible like everyone else here, and you'll soon realize the error of your ways!

[Alvin Moss]

Re: Prove that god is real

Look at my name (I just put "Proud" to piss people off) and you'll know why i made this

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I have a better idea. We are Christians here. God's people have known the truth of his existence for six thousand years. It has been two thousand years since He sent His son. The proof is all around you if you care to see it. We are obviously paying attention to your drivel and answering your questions. Why don't you prove to us that God does not exist, if you can, and stop wasting our time?

[BrotherLarry]

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Look at my name (I just put "Proud" to piss people off) and you'll know why i made this

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I'd be cautious about pride, young lady:


Proverbs 11:2 - [When] pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly [is] wisdom.

Proverbs 16:5 - Every one [that is] proud in heart [is] an abomination to the LORD: [though] hand [join] in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Proverbs 29:23 - A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Galatians 6:3 - For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

James 4:6 - But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Proverbs 27:2 - Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? [there is] more hope of a fool than of him.

Philippians 2:3 - [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the LORD [is] to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Jeremiah 9:23 - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise [man] glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty [man] glory in his might, let not the rich [man] glory in his riches:

1 John 2:16 - For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Romans 12:16 - [Be] of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.


How I Know GOD is REAL: He speaks to me all the time in the closet and calls me by name. He knows me (Jeremiah 1:5) and has known me even when I was a spermatozin. His Word teaches me everything, and I do mean everything, I need to know. There is nothing in this world that does not belong to Him (1 Corinthians 10:26) and there is never a reason to doubt Him (John 17:17).


I would love to see you on your knees, friend. The angels would likewise joice and rejoice. (Luke 15:10)


BrotherLarry

[refridgerator]

Re: Prove that god is real

I am not going to ban you for having questions.

The proof for God's existence goes as follows.

A. Over 90% of the world's population believes in some sort of God. You're telling me all those people are wrong? Of course, 99% of those people are going to hell anyway for not believing the right way, but that should offer some evidence.

Argumentum ad populum.

B. You claim the Bible is fiction. You're saying it's 100% fiction? It says right in Luke chapter 2.
You are saying Augustus Caesar never existed? Of course he did. And it that's true, then you have some explaining to do that the Bible is fiction. Because if you believe in Caesar you have to believe in Mary's miraculous birth.

Julius Caesar liked to eat stones. Since Julius existed, that he liked stones as dinner is true.

C. You remember all those martyrs in history? You're saying they died for nothing? They died for no reason. How tragic and senseless.

There is always a reason. If there is no reason, there is no cause, if there is no cause, there is no effect, if there is no effect, they can't die.

I don't want to live in such a cold world.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I am not going to ban you for having questions....

Dear, it's easier for the rest of us to understand your argument if you use the "quote" feature, conveniently placed at the bottom of each and every post.

Argumentum ad populum.

Funny how that works for climate change but not religion.

The liberal elite has conspired to keep God out of the hearts of children for a long time. Don't believe the lie.

Julius Caesar liked to eat stones. Since Julius existed, that he liked stones as dinner is true.

Don't be silly dear. A man cannot eat stones for dinner. It goes against his nature. Similarly, a man cannot die, the organic materials begin the decomposition process, become a host for bacteria and fungus, and then pop back up alive with each and every cell in its former glory. It goes against his nature. That's how we know Christ is GOD! He proved it by doing the impossible!

There is always a reason. If there is no reason, there is no cause, if there is no cause, there is no effect, if there is no effect, they can't die.

Okay, this doesn't make sense. Because there was an effect, namely the sacrifice of hundreds if not thousands of lives, we can be assured there was a cause. This cause is of course the Strength and Guidance of the Holy Ghost! The Apostle Paul says it best when he says if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is our faith (1 Corinthians 15:14). Since our faith is not useless, the resurrection is True!

Glory!

[Levi Jones]

Re: Prove that god is real

And let's not forget the Scientific reasons for God's existence.

Everything created needs a creator, except one thing.

Radiometric dating is flawed, except when it supports our case (like with the Shroud of Turin)

Look at the way a banana fits in the human hand.

Prayer works 100% of the time, if God wills it to.

You can't create intelligence from dust, therefore God.

And the greatest proof of all.

“Ax. 1. {P(φ)∧◻∀x[φ(x)→ψ(x)]} →P(ψ)Ax. 2.P(¬φ)↔¬P(φ)Th. 1.P(φ)→◊∃x[φ(x)]Df. 1.G(x)⟺∀φ[P(φ)→φ(x)]Ax. 3.P(G)Th. 2.◊∃xG(x)Df. 2.φ ess x⟺φ(x)∧∀ψ{ψ(x)→◻∀y[φ(y)→ψ(y)]}Ax. 4.P(φ)→◻P(φ)Th. 3.G(x)→G ess xDf. 3.E(x)⟺∀φ[φ ess x→◻∃yφ(y)]Ax. 5.P(E)Th. 4.◻∃xG(x)”.

[refridgerator]

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And let's not forget the Scientific reasons for God's existence.

Everything created needs a creator, except one thing.

¿Why everything needs a creator? Can you give me an example of something that was created from nothing? (except God, of course).

All are transformations of what always have been.