[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

God was not that responsible for evil.. .. ..

God says (in the Bible He dictated) that he is 100% responsible for all evil and as the active party.

The evidence for this has been posted. Now if you've made up a different "God" in every way contradicting what actual God has dictated through The Prophets you need to show your source. I have read The Bible and know what God says about Himself. If you have a context explaining what God meant by "evil" or "hate" you do need to show it.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

I was going to if you gave me a chance. I've been over this several times that God was not that responsible for evil which is what Didymus was bringing up again...

It was more about your stance on infant damnation. What I would like from you is an explanation of how those "too young to know the difference" somehow bypass Jesus to get into Heaven.

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

I was going to if you gave me a chance. I've been over this several times that God was not that responsible for evil which is what Didymus was bringing up again. He created a tree

Colossians 1:16 is plain as day; God created EVERYTHING. That includes evil.

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Nobody questions that, dear. Now please try to address what Didymus said instead of changing the subject.

I was going to if you gave me a chance. I've been over this several times that God was not that responsible for evil which is what Didymus was bringing up again. He created a tree

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Thank God! Praise Jesus!


Now that you've accepted the scriptural correctness of infant damnation, we need to work on getting you to stop the ballet.

Dancing isnt gay. And I still dont accept infant damnation. It's a calvanist lie

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

That's great news! You are ready to give up your false belief which is not supported by the Bible, and accept what the Bible says, which is that everyone who (1) has not accepted Jesus and (2) has not been baptized, INCLUDING DECEASED BABIES, goes to Hell. Good! I was really worried that you were going to go to Hell because of something so obvious as this.

I didnt say I gave up the fact that babies dobt go to hell I said that I gave up the fact trying to convince all of you otherwise

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

I even included an example of black & white gentleman's attire for "ballet" precisely as suggested but the topic switched abruptly, I thought.

It's happened again with Scripture links requests suddenly becoming "Disney on Ice" or something and a pretence of debate with no supporting evidence forthcoming.

That's neither a debate nor reasonable.

I'm praying for a miracle here - but maybe "miracle" in The Bible doesn't mean miracle at all but has a special meaning that no-one would actually identify as a miracle. Like "evil" has a special meaning that doesn't mean evil. Nothing changes: it's still what God says He does (not me, not the pope, not Joseph Smith) but it's a special magic evil no-one can see? What's the point of that? An answer would be nice.

I dont have an answer to that

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

There is something called "target dosing" where psychotic episodes or heightened anxieties or neuroses are anticipated and smaller amounts of medicine provided as a preventative measure than would otherwise be needed. Over a suitable time-frame, depending on the cycle seen to emerge, specific antics are recorded on a chart and graded by intensity with danger levels agreed beforehand. These might cycle over a few days or weeks and some of them will seem random but others (maybe one or two) show a distinct pattern. It doesn't really matter what causes such brainstorms (or gastric episodes where dementias or psychoses of the enteric nervous system are involved) as long as you know what stops them: a small dose just before the cycling episode is due works wonders.

Reviewing all those posts suggests a cycle. Whether enough time has elapsed to detect it (probably not) is immaterial. You probably don't believe in demons but just because giving them something they "like" such as an antipsychotic or even the currently experimental MDMA, LSD and MDEA stops the demonic attack doesn't mean there are no demons. Secular research documents the symptoms, and let's face it if demons can levitate tables rubbing out a few brain cells would be child's play, but never accepts the cause. Clearly you've noticed the peak in Scripture links.

Now we're in a trough. Even though I seemed to get through -- nothing.

That's like saying, "As much I despise hallucinating I will be eating these spotted toadstools" OR "Nudity is so revolting I've signed on to the naturists' Pacific cruise as eurythmics counsellor."

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You see I'm putting the best possible interpretation on my friend's posting history in the hope that Christ has chosen us for Salvation and that cycles of demonic activity can be interrupted through Him.

Ephesians 1:3-7 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace

Not everyone has been chosen. Not everyone has been predestinated for Redemption, through His blood, and the forgiveness of sins.

____________

1. in palliative care, treatment of PTSD and gerontology

.

I do believe in demons actually they do exist and their is evidence all over the internet about demonic hauntings and possessions. Only athiests believe demons dont exist and I'm NOT an atheist


Also yes Disney as a whole company is bad and Walt himself was creep and yes their are innapropriate subliminal messages in some of the movies (not all of them but some) BUT that doesn't mean the cast of the lion king or the cast of Tangled or the cast of Frozen are evil. Just because the company is full of bad eggs doesnt mean that all of them are like that.

[Basilissa]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

God did not write the bible he came to the prophets and told them to write down his words. Yes the words in the bible are his words but he didnt write them down the prophets and authors did that

Nobody questions that, dear. Now please try to address what Didymus said instead of changing the subject.

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Right. So many messages, but so little relevant content. Digging back through this thread, we've had:

-attempted justification of ballet
-why Joseph Kony is wrong
-how God doesn't torture people, He only creates the conditions and situations where people get tortured and the people who torture them
-how cancer somehow exists without God creating it
-how evil somehow exists without God creating it
-plenty of other feel-good but Biblically unjustifiable crap

Which brings us to but the halfway mark of this thread, and the ONLY Scripture you've cited so far is Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:" while not understanding even that bit so carrying on yields:

-God is not omniscient
-God did not write the Bible

Before we finally (at post #233) get to "John 3:18 does say what it says but its twisted around", which marks the second time that you've bothered to refer to the Bible and you still get it 180 degrees out of kilter versus the dozens of times the True Christians™ and I have cited exact, relevant Scripture exploding your cherished yet misguided beliefs.

Now that we're into the meat of the argument, let's see what you've actually come up with in this thread to justify your contempt of God and His wisdom:

-Genesis 1:27 (post #268)
-Matthew 18:1-3 (ibid.)
-Ezekiel 18:20 (post #277)
-John:941 [sic], to be decoded (post #282)
-2 Kings 24:4 (ibid.)

And... that's it? 388 replies, and 3 of them, spaced out 12-15 pages back, each easily shown to be merely your putting lipstick on a pig's rotting head and my spectacles are broken and you refusing to accept that words in English have meanings that you cannot deny.

Like Isaiah 45:7. Scripture that explicitly says God creates evil. You simply cry "NO".

Or Matthew 16:16, which leaves no way for babies to reach Heaven. You simply cry "NO".

Just stop claiming to be Christian already, because you never have been, you are not now, and you never will be.

God did not write the bible he came to the prophets and told them to write down his words. Yes the words in the bible are his words but he didnt write them down the prophets and authors did that

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

I give up! I've posted so many messages on this I'm done

Thank God! Praise Jesus!


Now that you've accepted the scriptural correctness of infant damnation, we need to work on getting you to stop the ballet.

[Basilissa]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

I give up!

That's great news! You are ready to give up your false belief which is not supported by the Bible, and accept what the Bible says, which is that everyone who (1) has not accepted Jesus and (2) has not been baptized, INCLUDING DECEASED BABIES, goes to Hell. Good! I was really worried that you were going to go to Hell because of something so obvious as this.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

I even included an example of black & white gentleman's attire for "ballet" precisely as suggested but the topic switched abruptly, I thought.

It's happened again with Scripture links requests suddenly becoming "Disney on Ice" or something and a pretence of debate with no supporting evidence forthcoming.

That's neither a debate nor reasonable.

I'm praying for a miracle here - but maybe "miracle" in The Bible doesn't mean miracle at all but has a special meaning that no-one would actually identify as a miracle. Like "evil" has a special meaning that doesn't mean evil. Nothing changes: it's still what God says He does (not me, not the pope, not Joseph Smith) but it's a special magic evil no-one can see? What's the point of that? An answer would be nice.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Right. So many messages, but so little relevant content. Digging back through this thread, we've had:

-attempted justification of ballet ...

Does anyone else find the thread title confusing in the context of the wanton prancing? Every time it pops up, I misunderstand "denier" as referring to the measurement of density of fibers in silk stockings (the lower the better - my husband insists that I wear 5 denier) or in this case men's ballet tights (very much the higher the better, ideally over 500 denier for maximum opacity and waterproofing).

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

There is something called "target dosing" where psychotic episodes or heightened anxieties or neuroses are anticipated and smaller amounts of medicine provided as a preventative measure than would otherwise be needed. Over a suitable time-frame, depending on the cycle seen to emerge, specific antics are recorded on a chart and graded by intensity with danger levels agreed beforehand. These might cycle over a few days or weeks and some of them will seem random but others (maybe one or two) show a distinct pattern. It doesn't really matter what causes such brainstorms (or gastric episodes where dementias or psychoses of the enteric nervous system are involved) as long as you know what stops them: a small dose just before the cycling episode is due works wonders.

Reviewing all those posts suggests a cycle. Whether enough time has elapsed to detect it (probably not) is immaterial. You probably don't believe in demons but just because giving them something they "like" such as an antipsychotic or even the currently experimental MDMA, LSD and MDEA stops the demonic attack doesn't mean there are no demons. Secular research documents the symptoms, and let's face it if demons can levitate tables rubbing out a few brain cells would be child's play, but never accepts the cause. Clearly you've noticed the peak in Scripture links.

Now we're in a trough. Even though I seemed to get through -

Are you saying that you want links?

- nothing.

Originally Posted by One Failure
As much as I despise Disney for their satanic agenda I will be seeing Frozen 2

That's like saying, "As much I despise hallucinating I will be eating these spotted toadstools" OR "Nudity is so revolting I've signed on to the naturists' Pacific cruise as eurythmics counsellor."

•DISABLE SOUND BEFORE VIEWING•

You see I'm putting the best possible interpretation on my friend's posting history in the hope that Christ has chosen us for Salvation and that cycles of demonic activity can be interrupted through Him.

Ephesians 1:3-7 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace

Not everyone has been chosen. Not everyone has been predestinated for Redemption, through His blood, and the forgiveness of sins.

____________

1. in palliative care, treatment of PTSD and gerontology

.