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Welcome Schmuck, to our friendly forum!
I am always so thrilled to meet another like minded decent Christian. Do tell us all about your walk through the sands of time with Jesus.
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Looks like I missed the action. Drugs must have worn off.
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We already are grouping together to stop waste: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=115625
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So what?Originally posted by schuch.mx View PostTo all, the reason I said we shouldn't force our belief down someones throat is because that always leads to war.
I have already cited you one verse that says God loves war. Here's another - this is Jesus talking:
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
As you can clearly see, Jesus does not endorse peace on earth. He wants us to wage war on unbelievers!
I hate to sound like a broken record, but as I have already told you, we don't care what you think. You have to show me some proof.We can share our belief and aid and in most cases, I'm sure people would convert but if someone believes in Allah or the heavenly Buddha, then we should allow them to do so. The fact they'll burn in hell can't be the reason we force our belief on someone because we don't know for a fact they would. I'd argue life is more karma based.
So you are saying, that the Holy Bible is fake news? That Jesus didn't die for our sins and wasn't resurrected? That God did not create the universe? That there is no God?The reason I brought up Abraham's story is because God told him to kill his son and he did it. Now imagine if this was just a story of an insane man who believed he heard the will of God.
Sweetie, I see you are unaware that Biblical scholars do have access to ancient manuscripts in original Hebrew (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament) languages. If you really are willing to make the argument about the contents of the Bible having been changed over time, you should start by analyzing these texts (which are available online).I know the bible is supposed to be the word of God, but it's been tainted over the years by being rewritten to adhere to more current English. The truth is; we just don't know for certain.
Sweetie, I've traveled to several shithole countries and I've seen people living off that amount, and if you really want your children to grow up malnourished on cheap carbohydrate-based diet with almost no vegetables, fruits, nor protein, and then watch your child die of an easily curable infection because you have no resources to take your child to a doctor, go ahead, but please don't force anyone else to do it.The whole point I'm trying to make is we can cut so many corners if we organize ourselves slightly differently. The world poverty line is 1.25$ and I honestly believe we could survive off of that amount if we properly set our goals to live off such an amount.
Sweetie, if you want to blame tons of plastic waste produced by third world countries on a handful of billionaires, please do try. I'll be here all week.As it is, we have people who are billionaires ruling the world and using it as their oyster and the only way to even have a chance at fighting back is by grouping together to prevent the needless waste they produce.
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Are we arguing with a bot, that is an artificial intelligence (so to speak)?
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You have already been told, twice at least, that this is not true. Let me clarify that in terms you can perhaps understand: IT IS NOT TRUE!!!!!!Originally posted by schuch.mx View PostThe reason I brought up Abraham's story is because God told him to kill his son and he did it.....
The verses of the Bible which REVEAL this to be A LIE have already been provided. Before you criticize, I suggest you read it, rather that basing what YOU think that WE believe on what little you remember of the drug-addled lyrics of Bob Dylan's droning Highway 61.
And if you want someone to collaborate with you on your hippie-philosophy-based nonsense, I suggest you try the Mormons. You'd be right at home with them - they like making stuff up and are very into self-publishing.
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Originally posted by schuch.mx View PostTell me, why do you hate people?
We don't hate people generally, we only hate our immediate families just as Jesus told us to:
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
We LOVE the others and try to guide them into Heavenly light. This is a hard task as people will mostly be condemned (John 3:18; Matthew 7:14). Due to this, our Love is not expressed as niceties but as firm rebuking with necessary referrals to Scripture, just as Jesus told us to do:
2 Timothy 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Now, I understand that your question was a lame attempt to refute everything that our Brethren and Sisters have tried to make you see. So, quit the shenanigans and please assess your flawed opinions about Genesis 22 and the story of Abraham and tell us about its relevance based on the actual text and not on your faulty reminiscences.
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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Originally posted by Sally Paulson View PostOn a more positive note, what would it take to change your mind? Imagine you've become a gold tithing true Christian. What did we do that made it happen?
Well, I came out and said everything wrong in the first place which is why I tried to have general conversation on an outside source. Whenever someone tries to convey a message against the status quo, you either get believers or haters. No matter what's behind the message you always get propaganda to some extent which is why capitalism reigns supreme. Thing is though, capitalism will eventually eat itself up when the next bubble bursts causing everyone's life savings to dwindle. People are pissed off for a reason. We have a crisis on our doorstep and there are 5000000 different ways to avert it, we just have to work together to find one that works.
Tell me, why do you hate people?Originally posted by Dennis Lukes View PostSon, the wonderful True Christians here have been very patient with you. But if you continue posting Marxist-Darwinist propaganda on their forum, it's very likely they will ban you.
Tell me, why do you hate God?
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On a more positive note, what would it take to change your mind? Imagine you've become a gold tithing true Christian. What did we do that made it happen?
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Son, the wonderful True Christians here have been very patient with you. But if you continue posting Marxist-Darwinist propaganda on their forum, it's very likely they will ban you.
Tell me, why do you hate God?
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Originally posted by Sally Paulson View PostAt first I thought you were trying to reinvent the Salvation Army, but once you started talking about reptile brains I've concluded that you've listened to a little too much Alex jones.
Or maybe you're just really bad at communicating and should just point us to your favorite thinkers, so we can debunk them instead.
The heck? We sell things people want to buy. We buy things people want to sell. That's capitalism.
South Korea didn't get rich by exploiting North Korea. Venezuela didn't get impoverished by Taiwanese exploitation.
It's hard to explain how the human mind works; psychologists have been trying to decipher insanity for a long time. Capitalism works because we have the ability to utilize its function; the rest of the world has not been properly set up to adhere to it's methods.
I brought up the reptilian brain because that is one of our brains, we have 3 of them you know... its a proven fact. We don't listen to it most of the time because we have the choice to ignore it, but it does always overwrite our thoughts in catastrophe. People will eat food, or at least those who survive.
I said that to explain that what I'm talking about isn't a cult. Our world is in a transitional period at the moment. Not everyone is equal, some can produce less, some aren't as smart, there's so much varying factors involved that it's impossible to decipher what is best for this world. I do know that what we are currently doing is wrong because a large percentage of people are living in poverty sifting through our trash to produce goods when we can easily build factories or schools for them to thrive. It's not hard building a house; the problem is knowing how to build one and having the correct materials to do soOriginally posted by Sally Paulson View PostLet's not play that rhetorical gerrymandering game were we redefine words to be meaningless. There's a difference between a thousand people drinking poisoned kool aid and not doing that. Not every church releases poisoned gas in the Tokyo subway system. Not every church commits mass suicide because a comet looked funny.
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At first I thought you were trying to reinvent the Salvation Army, but once you started talking about reptile brains I've concluded that you've listened to a little too much Alex jones.
Or maybe you're just really bad at communicating and should just point us to your favorite thinkers, so we can debunk them instead.
The heck? We sell things people want to buy. We buy things people want to sell. That's capitalism.Originally posted by schuch.mx View PostAt the moment first world countries take advantage of the world through capitalism
South Korea didn't get rich by exploiting North Korea. Venezuela didn't get impoverished by Taiwanese exploitation.
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Clearly you've never read Genesis 22:10-13. The only tainted versions of the Bible are the ones that aren't the KJV 1611.Originally posted by schuch.mx View Post
The reason I brought up Abraham's story is because God told him to kill his son and he did it. Now imagine if this was just a story of an insane man who believed he heard the will of God. I know the bible is supposed to be the word of God, but it's been tainted over the years by being rewritten to adhere to more current English. The truth is; we just don't know for certain.
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There's a difference between a thousand people drinking poisoned kool aid and not doing that. Not every church releases poisoned gas in the Tokyo subway system. Not every church commits mass suicide because a comet looked funny.Originally posted by schuch.mx View PostYou do realize that the entire concept of religion itself is technically a cult right?Last edited by Jeb Stuart Thurmond; 09-19-2024, 07:03 PM.
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It'd be better as a collaboration in order to prevent one mans ambition from coming forth.Originally posted by JamesH.B View PostIs this some kind of attempt at using "science" to get us to turn away from God? If it is, we're not buying it. After you take Mr. Lukes' suggestion to get a Bible, you should find and read 1 Timothy 6:20. After that, I'd suggest you read it again.
Originally posted by JamesH.B View PostIs this some kind of attempt at using "science" to get us to turn away from God? If it is, we're not buying it. After you take Mr. Lukes' suggestion to get a Bible, you should find and read 1 Timothy 6:20. After that, I'd suggest you read it again.
That was more of an attempt to show that psychologically, we are basically required to have some form of belief system as otherwise the world is too complex and we become emotionally compromised at the weight of the world.[QUOTE=JamesH.B;1243492]Is this some kind of attempt at using "science" to get us to turn away from God? If it is, we're not buying it. After you take Mr. Lukes' suggestion to get a Bible, you should find and read 1 Timothy 6:20. After that, I'd suggest you read it again.
Well mate, imagine if that time is here and now. Our world is changing faster than anyone can imagine and we are all barely keeping up. We are barreling towards automation but are actively preventing that from becoming a thing because otherwise we would be out of jobs. I say go automation full force so we can increase the amount of personal freedom we have.Originally posted by BrotherLarry View PostWelcome, Michael. I am always ready for stimulating interaction with another man.
I think the way we worship God and show others our perfection is going well. God doesn't change, so why should we? I do pray for you and will do so intermittently across the span of the short time we have left until Jesus breaks the clouds in a shout of GLORY. I hope you're ready for that day. I am.
BrotherLarry
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To all, the reason I said we shouldn't force our belief down someones throat is because that always leads to war. We can share our belief and aid and in most cases, I'm sure people would convert but if someone believes in Allah or the heavenly Buddha, then we should allow them to do so. The fact they'll burn in hell can't be the reason we force our belief on someone because we don't know for a fact they would. I'd argue life is more karma based.
The reason I brought up Abraham's story is because God told him to kill his son and he did it. Now imagine if this was just a story of an insane man who believed he heard the will of God. I know the bible is supposed to be the word of God, but it's been tainted over the years by being rewritten to adhere to more current English. The truth is; we just don't know for certain.
The whole point I'm trying to make is we can cut so many corners if we organize ourselves slightly differently. The world poverty line is 1.25$ and I honestly believe we could survive off of that amount if we properly set our goals to live off such an amount. As it is, we have people who are billionaires ruling the world and using it as their oyster and the only way to even have a chance at fighting back is by grouping together to prevent the needless waste they produce.
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