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  • Didymus Much
    Unsaved trash, Arrogant Atheist Dick
    • Jun 2010
    • 14079

    #31
    Re: Flat Earth lmao

    Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
    ...I'm saying what the vast majority believes in...
    That does NOT mean that something is true or not.

    More required reading for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

    Please take the time to follow the "See Also..." items, and stop basing your arguments on logical fallacies. Won't you think of the foreheads you'll save from some mighty, mighty slaps?

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    • James Hutchins
      True Christian™
      Just a Regular Nice Guy
       
      • Jun 2009
      • 29453

      #32
      Re: Flat Earth lmao

      Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
      I'm not some soothsayer I'm saying what the vast majority believes in. Creationist scientists have proven that the earth Is round
      The vast majority I have spoken to and the leading research of experts say you are utterly wrong!
      Do you think God and the Bible is full of horse hooey?
      Attached Files
      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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      • OneFailure
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Aug 2018
        • 441

        #33
        Re: Flat Earth lmao

        Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
        That does NOT mean that something is true or not.

        More required reading for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

        Please take the time to follow the "See Also..." items, and stop basing your arguments on logical fallacies. Won't you think of the foreheads you'll save from some mighty, mighty slaps?
        It is true theirs vast amounts of evidence for round earth

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        • James Hutchins
          True Christian™
          Just a Regular Nice Guy
           
          • Jun 2009
          • 29453

          #34
          Re: Flat Earth lmao

          Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
          It is true theirs vast amounts of evidence for round earth
          Whose is theirs? Round and as flat as a gold doubloon.
          Attached Files
          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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          • OneFailure
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            • Aug 2018
            • 441

            #35
            Re: Flat Earth lmao

            It's not like a gold doubloon

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            • Didymus Much
              Unsaved trash, Arrogant Atheist Dick
              • Jun 2010
              • 14079

              #36
              Re: Flat Earth lmao

              Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
              It is true theirs vast amounts of evidence for round earth
              Please read what I wrote again, more carefully this time.


              I did NOT argue in favour of a flat earth, so why thafuh are you trying to convince me?


              I made the point that, EVEN IF YOUR FACTS ARE FLAWLESS, IMPECCABLE, PERFECT, etc., if your logic is faulty, then your "knowledge" isn't worth diddly-squat.

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              • Vengeance Puriel
                Striving in vain for the good ol' corteous Edwardian grace
                Forum Member
                • Jun 2018
                • 324

                #37
                Re: Flat Earth lmao

                The Bible says its flat so its flat. Isaiah 24:1
                Matthew 4:8
                It doesn't move
                1 chronicles 16:30
                Its on pillars
                Samuel 2:28
                Stars moon and sun are in our dome
                Genesis 1:16-17
                More Bible proof
                Genesis 1:7
                Job 37:18
                Psalms 104:5
                Revelation 6:13
                -Ps 25:10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
                -Ps 33:4 For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.
                -James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

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                • Dennis Lukes
                  Innkeeper for Christ
                  True Christian™
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 2388

                  #38
                  Re: Flat Earth lmao

                  Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
                  I'm not some soothsayer I'm saying what the vast majority believes in.
                  There once was a time when the vast majority didn't believe in Christ, and had never even heard of Him. Do you think He bought that excuse when they showed up outside of Heaven and begged and pleaded that they just believed what everyone else believed? No, Jesus kicked them square in the face and knocked them down to Hell. They're still there, writing in agony and with much gnashing of teeth. You'll see it for yourself within the next few decades if you don't change your ways.
                  I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore,
                  Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
                  But the Master of the Sea heard my despairing cry,
                  From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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                  • MitzaLizalor
                    Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14430

                    #39
                    Re: Flat Earth lmao

                    I thought "soothsaying" was the absolute bee's roller skates of saying what the vast majority believes in. Otherwise they wouldn't be soothsayers? They'd be gainsayers.

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                    • Dr Laurence Niles
                      Psychotheological Analyst Therapist
                       
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 9063

                      #40
                      Re: Flat Earth lmao

                      Originally posted by Mustafa Jihad2 View Post
                      If the word Ball has dirty connotations for you then the problem is in your mind. A ball is just a ball ��

                      I was referring to the flat earth model. A Quarter with a dome and the sun and the moon floating like balls. This is what the flat earth movement has done to you:

                      “And not an atom’s weight in the earth or in the sky escapeth your Lord, nor what is less than that or greater than that, but it is (written) in a clear Book” (Satanism 10:61)
                      Secular science does not claim the world is a globe. The idiots believe it is an oblate spheroid. You people really need to get your ducks in a row.

                      Jesus wins again.

                      YIC
                      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                      • MitzaLizalor
                        Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                        True Christian™
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14430

                        #41
                        Re: Flat Earth lmao

                        Originally posted by Mustafa Jihad2 View Post
                        Ok fine. Its … a ball.
                        I'm disregarding the other stuff because it's all presented without evidence. As the last post makes clear, we do actually know what the secularists claim.

                        And as I'd hope by now is also clear, we do actually know what God has revealed in The Bible. I would like to point out that no-one here is part of the the flat earth movement which implies a movement away from some established position or, alternatively, towards a new (and not yet established or even well defined) perspective. That is not the case for anyone who accepts The Bible.

                        In the simplest terms,
                        1. God made everything
                          God made the universe
                          • God made everything in. the universe

                        2. God made the world and everything in it
                          The Earth, The Sky and The Oceans are all made by God
                          • therefore God knows everything about. these things
                          • otherwise He couldn't have made. them

                        3. God has told us some of what He knows

                        4. Evidence from God himself is incompatible with ball shaped worlds.
                        For the first two items I've included alternative wording for the convenience of secular enquirers who may be more familiar with those words. It all amounts to the same thing. Christians are neither part of a movement away from agnostic cosmology nor beholden to any effort seeking to overturn the status quo within it.

                        For some time the irreligious turn up here making all sorts of claims, some of them relating to cosmology, but what do they bring in the way of evidence? Nothing that cannot be refuted with a single sentence. Quite apart from that, their models fail to account for actual observations made and recorded across millennia which I doubt they're even aware of. Before making a decision I read up on the topic using reliable sources, make observations myself if appropriate, compare different sources and so on. No-one has to agree with me but when looking for a rebuttal surely it's essential to check out the sources I (or anyone else) have used?

                        I think that about covers it. If the four point outline is still opaque I can simplify it a bit.

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