[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Greetings, dear Christians,

First things first, I am Ravenmann and I come from Europe. I am a young man. I'm an atheist.


Before I proceed any further with this introduction, I want to say that I am not here to troll, fight or verbally assault faithful of this forum in any way, shape or form. I am open to getting into civil discussions.


Let's proceed now.


I joined this forum to interact with you guys, share knowledge, facts, info and other stuff.


Now, believe it or not, I most probably agree more with you then any atheist out there. How come? I find it hard to enjoy the company of other atheists because I hold mostly conservative views. For example, I am pro life and anti LGBT.


I admire your Zeal. I have seen many Christian communities water down and start accepting and even proclaiming LGBT as something normal, when it is clear that it's not normal.


I hope we can get along and learn from each other. Thanks for reading.


Ravenmann

Welcome, young lady!

I’m guessing that Jesus has bought you here. But is it to test OUR faith or for YOUR Salvation(r)?

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved - Acts 2:21

YIC

[Ravenmann]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

No need for hostility, Pastor Ezekiel(unrelated, but you have a cool name)


I literally promise that I am here to learn about christianity and talk with people well versed in that religion. I am not saying that I know more then you, but I noticed that you have a subforum for exposing new age religions such as Wicca and I have quite a bit knowledge on them and I would like to contribute so you can recognize them and their symbols as well as messages in public. As I understand, you are one of the admins or leaders, and I thank you for taking your time and replying. I hope that you will see fit to accept me here, even though I am "unsaved". I will not post anything that opposes the rules.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Are you implying that I am the same person as OP of that thread. I most surely am not.

No, just pointing out that the exact same request was made (and denied) only two days ago. This is why it's a good plan to have a bit of a read (and use the search function) before wasting everyone's time.

Please check the IP adress under which I am posting this and you shall have your ultimate proof.

Why would I do that? We have administrative back-office staff for that sort of thing.

[Ravenmann]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

As an atheist, you cannot use religion as a justification of your position, so I'm curious, how do you justify it?

That's good to hear. Many atheists would say that Christianity has no place in the civilized world, I'm glad you don't support that position.

When you say "pro life," do you mean "pro all life" (so against death penalty for even the worst criminals), or "pro some life only?"

It simply is not normal nor natural. I'm sick of libtrash atheists talking about evolution one minute and talking about how faggots are normal in another. I believe humans evolved to have heterosexual sex only. It is not normal. I could list some facts but they are gross and disgusting so I'll refrain from it.


I am pro life in sense of an abortion question. I am all for death penalty for some of the scum of the earth. So you could say pro some life only.

IP address, my aunt Clara's big toe! Are you so foolish as to think that none of us here have ever heard of VPNs??


Well, I hope it wasn't too much of a culture shock to you to see this old lady on this forum. We don't all sit in rocking chairs with cats on our laps, you know. It might surprise you to know that I still do my own gardening, and I still volunteer at the local library where I was once librarian. Have I missed something about you? Did you mention what country you're from? I may have overlooked that. Sincerely, Isabella We-Know-All-About-IP-Stuff White.

Yes. I do know what a VPN is. I will find a way to prove my authenticity, one way or another


Librarian, you say? I always loved books and libraries. They just have a beautiful feeling to them. To disprove inconsistencies in my story, I will disclose it. I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina. Only muslim country in all of Europe.

[Isabella White]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Are you implying that I am the same person as OP of that thread. I most surely am not. Please check the IP adress under which I am posting this and you shall have your ultimate proof.

I do find it a little odd, considering elderly in my country don't really engage in online communities, excluding facebook of course.

I downloaded the version of the Bible you recommended and I will begin reading it tonight. Maybe I will post mine thoughts of it once I am hopefully approved.

IP address, my aunt Clara's big toe! Are you so foolish as to think that none of us here have ever heard of VPNs??


Well, I hope it wasn't too much of a culture shock to you to see this old lady on this forum. We don't all sit in rocking chairs with cats on our laps, you know. It might surprise you to know that I still do my own gardening, and I still volunteer at the local library where I was once librarian. Have I missed something about you? Did you mention what country you're from? I may have overlooked that. Sincerely, Isabella We-Know-All-About-IP-Stuff White.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Greetings, dear Christians,

First things first, I am Ravenmann and I come from Europe. I am a young man. I'm an atheist.

Before I proceed any further with this introduction, I want to say that I am not here to troll, fight or verbally assault faithful of this forum in any way, shape or form. I am open to getting into civil discussions.

Let's proceed now.

I joined this forum to interact with you guys, share knowledge, facts, info and other stuff.

Now, believe it or not, I most probably agree more with you then any atheist out there. How come? I find it hard to enjoy the company of other atheists because I hold mostly conservative views. For example, I am pro life and anti LGBT.

I admire your Zeal. I have seen many Christian communities water down and start accepting and even proclaiming LGBT as something normal, when it is clear that it's not normal.

I hope we can get along and learn from each other. Thanks for reading.

Ravenmann

Welcome.
First off, you are chock full of horse doo-doo. People like you always repent when on your death bed or when life does not seem fair. Then you proclaim there is no God because He did not repond to your prayers. Are you really surprised after a lifetime of peeing on His Stefano Bemers?
Let's look at an independent expert, OK.

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

[Basilissa]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Well, I think that faggots and queers are something that should not be normalized ans accepted.

As an atheist, you cannot use religion as a justification of your position, so I'm curious, how do you justify it?

I stopped believing in God, though I did continue reading about Islam and religion in general, and today I am strongly opposed to Islam, as it has no place in Europe nor America.

That's good to hear. Many atheists would say that Christianity has no place in the civilized world, I'm glad you don't support that position.

I noticed I got my first "cancer of society" badge. I don't mind insulting badges, but I'd really like to get the "Pro life" one.

When you say "pro life," do you mean "pro all life" (so against death penalty for even the worst criminals), or "pro some life only?"

[Ravenmann]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

The True Christian™ has gifts of the Spirit, including discernment. You have given me no reason to declare you a straight person. You have no wife, apparently; you have not mentioned a gun collection. You haven't discussed hunting or fishing or siring sons like a hopeful hetero male would do, no matter how young.


And we don't insult the gaywise here. We love them and pray for them. I know personally the joy they can bring. That's why it's not necessary to hide from us even your darkest sin.


BrotherLarry

Well, I do plan on owning guns and one of my wishes in to start hunting. As of now, I only own a Mondial Brevettata model 1900.
I plan on getting myself ammo for it.

This is very familiar. Where have I seen it all before, just days ago? Oh look, here it is!

Are you implying that I am the same person as OP of that thread. I most surely am not. Please check the IP adress under which I am posting this and you shall have your ultimate proof.

As dear Sister Mary has so kindly noted, once our investigation is finished, then you might be able to post new threads. But only IF our Godly investigators are satisfied that you are not here to cause trouble, troll, or otherwise conduct yourself in a manner that is not in accordance with our Godly principles.


Why do you think it's odd that I'm 84? The good Lord has spared me from a stroke, and so far I don't have any other unfortunate health conditions. And that is largely due to clean living and worshipping the good Lord constantly, although I do thank you for wishing me well, and I return the sentiment. That's why I've referred you to Biblical verses that you need to know.


As for your statement about us having any "legit evidence to look on and review", I do believe that I have shared some very important and relevant Scriptural verses with you. What you need to do is get yourself a copy of the King James Bible, 1611. Open it up and study it carefully. Do NOT get any of those other watered-down versions, and do not cherry-pick the nice verses whilst leaving the stronger ones behind. The KJV Bible is not a box of chocolates. ALL of it is what the Lord has left for us to study, from cover to cover.


II Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"


Sincerely,
Isabella W.

As I already mentioned, I am not here to troll and cause trouble in any way, shape or form, which can be proven by my posts so far, and I promise to continue posting well thought out and quality posts.


I do find it a little odd, considering elderly in my country don't really engage in online communities, excluding facebook of course.


I downloaded the version of the Bible you recommended and I will begin reading it tonight. Maybe I will post mine thoughts of it once I am hopefully approved.

[BrotherLarry]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Dearest Granny Isabella,


If this muslim terrorist insults you just let me know and I will get on the next plane (unless he's on it) to defend you. You know the burden I have for the homersekshul and he's already trying to insult me - er, them - and I'm not fooled by his pretend politeness. I know as a muslime his inherent nature is violence and divisiveness. I bet he didn't even vote for Trump and probably wants to see Bob Barr impeached.


Note how he won't reveal his age because he doesn't want us to know he is a 64 year old from Iraq or somewhere like that, planning the next 9/11. May GOD (not allah, piss be on him) save his soul.


PS: Raven, once again you use pejorative linguisticisms to describe the homer. We do NOT insult people here and these statements do not set well with our Dept of Faith. Nonetheless, I hope the LORD GOD blesses you on our friendly and welcoming forums.

[Isabella White]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

This is very familiar. Where have I seen it all before, just days ago? Oh look, here it is!

A-ha! I suspected as much, dear Sister Joanna. The writing style seemed to have a certain ring to it. Bless you for being so observant. Obviously, the Holy Spirit was guiding you very carefully! A blessed day to you, Dear. Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Isabella White]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

I understand your words, but it's hard to believe in something like that when each and every religion claims that they are the true religion. If I had any legit evidence to look on and review, maybe i'd accept Christianity.

Also, you are really 84 years old? That's odd. This is probably the first forum I encountered that has seniors on it. I'm sure you led a fufilling life and I hope that health serves you well.

As dear Sister Mary has so kindly noted, once our investigation is finished, then you might be able to post new threads. But only IF our Godly investigators are satisfied that you are not here to cause trouble, troll, or otherwise conduct yourself in a manner that is not in accordance with our Godly principles.


Why do you think it's odd that I'm 84? The good Lord has spared me from a stroke, and so far I don't have any other unfortunate health conditions. And that is largely due to clean living and worshipping the good Lord constantly, although I do thank you for wishing me well, and I return the sentiment. That's why I've referred you to Biblical verses that you need to know.


As for your statement about us having any "legit evidence to look on and review", I do believe that I have shared some very important and relevant Scriptural verses with you. What you need to do is get yourself a copy of the King James Bible, 1611. Open it up and study it carefully. Do NOT get any of those other watered-down versions, and do not cherry-pick the nice verses whilst leaving the stronger ones behind. The KJV Bible is not a box of chocolates. ALL of it is what the Lord has left for us to study, from cover to cover.


II Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"


Sincerely,
Isabella W.

[Ravenmann]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

As long as you agree to agree with us that followers of all of the above will go to Hell, we're OK with that.

That is great news indeed. It's really worth reading, even if just to see what the fuss is all about. Interestingly, if you do follow through, you'll achieve more than many self-proclaimed "Christians" who live their lives without reading the Bible but just believing stuff they think it should say. Needless to say, when people like that stumble upon our forum, they are rather surprised and often deeply offended.
Mr. not-so-much, despite being a hellbound atheist, knows the Bible much better than the self-proclaimed Christians I mentioned. That means, there's still a shred of hope for his Salvation.

If I may ask, what were the reasons why you rejected Islam?

Oh, don't worry about that - keep posting, and you'll get what you'll deserve.

You just joined, dear. What you say now does sound nice, but let's wait and see if you really worth the trouble. Nothing personal, it's just that we get a lot of hit-and-run posters around here.

Well, I think that faggots and queers are something that should not be normalized ans accepted.


I was a pious muslim child until my 12th year or something. My family is really religoius but my atheist grandfather and a very wise person taught me things, read books with me and stuff like that.


I stopped believing in God, though I did continue reading about Islam and religion in general, and today I am strongly opposed to Islam, as it has no place in Europe nor America.


I understand now that my account has to be approved by department of Faith or whatever you call it, no problem. I am not a hit and run poster and I can wait a bit. I noticed I got my first "cancer of society" badge. I don't mind insulting badges, but I'd really like to get the "Pro life" one.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

This is very familiar. Where have I seen it all before, just days ago? Oh look, here it is!

[BrotherLarry]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

Why are you assuming i'm gay though? I'm an atheist, but not a queer.

The True Christian(TM) has gifts of the Spirit, including discernment. You have given me no reason to declare you a straight person. You have no wife, apparently; you have not mentioned a gun collection. You haven't discussed hunting or fishing or siring sons like a hopeful hetero male would do, no matter how young.


And we don't insult the gaywise here. We love them and pray for them. I know personally the joy they can bring. That's why it's not necessary to hide from us even your darkest sin.


BrotherLarry

[Basilissa]

Re: Greetings from an atheist

I have read lots and lots of stuff about religion and occultism, and since you have an entire subforum dedicated to those esoteric and occultistic religions, I figured it would be great to contribute and spill some information about wicca, witchcraft, satanism and alike.

As long as you agree to agree with us that followers of all of the above will go to Hell, we're OK with that.

Thanks for the verses. I actually plan on reading the bible. I cannot really go in depth of any discussion about Christianity with well versed christians without reading it.

That is great news indeed. It's really worth reading, even if just to see what the fuss is all about. Interestingly, if you do follow through, you'll achieve more than many self-proclaimed "Christians" who live their lives without reading the Bible but just believing stuff they think it should say. Needless to say, when people like that stumble upon our forum, they are rather surprised and often deeply offended.

I'm really bewildered that an atheist is a regular here though.

Mr. not-so-much, despite being a hellbound atheist, knows the Bible much better than the self-proclaimed Christians I mentioned. That means, there's still a shred of hope for his Salvation.

I was never a Christian. I rejected Islam and became an atheist.

If I may ask, what were the reasons why you rejected Islam?

Also, how do people get those badges next to their username and avatar?

Oh, don't worry about that - keep posting, and you'll get what you'll deserve.

Why am I not allowed to make new threads in subforums though? I don't troll or anything, and I'd put effort into them.

You just joined, dear. What you say now does sound nice, but let's wait and see if you really worth the trouble. Nothing personal, it's just that we get a lot of hit-and-run posters around here.