[Maria Knight]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Not all massage parlors are houses of sin only the shady ones are.


No I'm pretty sure being a massage therapist is what God wants for me if it wasnt I wouldnt have started studying it

If that's what God really wanted, then why would He have led you here where so many people have told you that it's a terrible idea? Why would He have made you delay becoming a massage "therapist" all this time?
Satan is leading you towards the path of sin by saying "massage parlors are okey dokey".... God is trying to lead you down the right path and Save you - but you have to meet him halfway and accept his help. Otherwise, the Devil will continue to have a hold of your very soul.

Accept Jesus and repent of these flesh-fondling thoughts for good!

[Isabella White]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Not all massage parlors are houses of sin only the shady ones are.

No I'm pretty sure being a massage therapist is what God wants for me if it wasnt I wouldnt have started studying it

Oh, my, my, my. I feel such sadness, dear Miss Alex, knowing that you are determined to go down this road of devilish debauchery. You might think that you have the right intention, but I'm afraid that you are going to find that Satan is leading you into a terrible trap. And it could be a trap from which you are unable to leave.

As Brother Alvin has so wisely noted, it's hardly likely that your clients will recognize whether or not your establishment is shady. Goodness; there are many strange people out there who will love nothing more than to entice a young person, such as yourself, into any number of sinful activities. I mean, what would you do if you wound up working for someone who pretended to be hosting a respectable place, but was actually associating with the unfortunate type as shown in the video below?

[Alvin Moss]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Not all massage parlors are houses of sin only the shady ones are.


No I'm pretty sure being a massage therapist is what God wants for me if it wasnt I wouldnt have started studying it

I doubt if the men who come to your establishment for a massage will recognize such refinements as shady or not shady. They will be coming with sinful lust on their minds and they may not take no for an answer. You are mistaken about God's message to you. I'm certain He doesn't want you anointing and rubbing the flesh of strange men.

[Alex112]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Dear Miss Alex: If you have not yet pursued your dream of becoming a "massage therapist", then it appears that this delay has been the 's plan. It is most evident that by leading you to , wants you to consider, very carefully, the expert advice that is offered to you by much-beloved servants.

And, since it appears that you are not meant to work in these houses of sin, then it is obvious that another vocation will be more suitable, and in agreement with the wishes of Almighty . For example, what could please the more than if you were to become a baker?

Exodus 29:2 "And unleavened bread, and cakes unleavened tempered with oil, and wafers unleavened anointed with oil: of wheaten flour shalt thou make them."

Matthew 6:11 "Give us this day our daily bread."

Not all massage parlors are houses of sin only the shady ones are.


No I'm pretty sure being a massage therapist is what God wants for me if it wasnt I wouldnt have started studying it

[Isabella White]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

I havent gotten a chance to do it yet I mean there was highschool trade school and I got interested in it after I finished school that's all...

Dear Miss Alex: If you have not yet pursued your dream of becoming a "massage therapist", then it appears that this delay has been the 's plan. It is most evident that by leading you to , wants you to consider, very carefully, the expert advice that is offered to you by much-beloved servants.

And, since it appears that you are not meant to work in these houses of sin, then it is obvious that another vocation will be more suitable, and in agreement with the wishes of Almighty . For example, what could please the more than if you were to become a baker?

Exodus 29:2 "And unleavened bread, and cakes unleavened tempered with oil, and wafers unleavened anointed with oil: of wheaten flour shalt thou make them."

Matthew 6:11 "Give us this day our daily bread."

[Alex112]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

I am puzzled. Right from the outset we see this:
At this point I assumed Alex was in the 12-14 age bracket. So I asked and got the following reply:

So here is the conundrum, Alex. If you are already in your twenties, then why have you not yet become a massage therapist? It's not as though the "training" is expensive or mentally taxing (by which I mean you won't need to be able to use apostrophes, or spell profession correctly). And it is available online.

What is holding you back, Alex? Is it sloth?

I havent gotten a chance to do it yet I mean there was highschool trade school and I got interested in it after I finished school that's all...

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Alex is probably not going to fulfill his sinful dream until he's well in his forties or maybe even fifties (by which time he will be too old to be hired by massage parlors, unless there is a fetish for people wanting to be groped by a middle aged man).

Yes, Sister: I too am praying that this will fall into the "Don't panic! It will never happen" category of Sin.

Of course, Alex's parents may have been married very young. (I am assuming they were actually married.) If Alex is from, say, North Carolina, his (or her) parents may be only 14 years older than him (or her). With the very excellent health care provided by President Trump, they may live to be 100. Alex would then be 86 and by that time there will probably be regulations about trampling over people's kidneys while using a walking frame.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Massaging is not groping and none of that stuff will happen I assure of you I wont let it happen

Tell that to all the drug addicts and EMOs what started with just a single puff of a marijuanna cigarette. I cannot count the number of times I have heard the same story. Young girls thinking holding hands is great, until they are pregnant with some darkies mulatto baby and he is out gang banging.

Abstinence from perversion means not taking that first step down the rabbit hole of perversion. That is what caused the cult of the Jugglo's. Kids listening to Mitch Miller.

Seems so innocent until you regain conciousness in a seedy motel covered in your own vomit inside a mass of diseased sex perverts. If I only had a nickel for every time I have heard about this, so many times I've been called by a distraught, decent Christian mother, begging me to 'get my baby' and have to wade through a room filled to the brim with sweat and genital expulsion.
Don't let it happen to you.

[Basilissa]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

I
So here is the conundrum, Alex. If you are already in your twenties, then why have you not yet become a massage therapist? It's not as though the "training" is expensive or mentally taxing (by which I mean you won't need to be able to use apostrophes, or spell profession correctly). And it is available online.

What is holding you back, Alex? Is it sloth?

I believe, Sister Joanna, that sinners of his age who had the misfortune of being raised by unsaved trash are what they call "Millennials." My understanding is that what makes a Millennial a Millennial is that they have to live with and depend from their parents until they are thirty-something or possibly until their parents die. Therefore, Alex is probably not going to fulfill his sinful dream until he's well in his forties or maybe even fifties (by which time he will be too old to be hired by massage parlors, unless there is a fetish for people wanting to be groped by a middle aged man).

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

I am puzzled. Right from the outset we see this:

My dream is to become an ashiatsu massage therapist and live in a nicer town

At this point I assumed Alex was in the 12-14 age bracket. So I asked and got the following reply:

I'm in my twenties

So here is the conundrum, Alex. If you are already in your twenties, then why have you not yet become a massage therapist? It's not as though the "training" is expensive or mentally taxing (by which I mean you won't need to be able to use apostrophes, or spell profession correctly). And it is available online.

What is holding you back, Alex? Is it sloth?

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

I'm sorry, where did you say you're located? I need to schedule a massage ASAP. I've got aches and pains you wouldn't believe.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

The way I know I will not be seduced is because I'm strong minded against that I dont fall for that stuff people use to lure people to stumble. Its really not going to happen to me.

This is another personal justification, appeal to your own authority. It's still a fallacy. If you're a Christian you should know not to trust the flesh. Paul had no confidence in it. What makes you better than him?

Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

I know you werent saying it wasnt harmful I'm just defending my chosen proffession theirs nothing j want to do!

Please use the "Preview post" function.

OK, I try to put it more plainly:

• How do you determine which is true and reliable.
  • In science?
  • Regarding Christianity?
• How do you tell the difference between good and bad information
  • In science?
  • In Christianity?
  • Regarding what you think is right and wrong?

We know that you're defending your position and that it is not your fault that during your education hitherto you were not given a proper toolbox to test claims. However, it will be your own fault if you obstinately refuse to make your toolbox better now that you - perhaps for the first time in your life - have stumbled upon a Forum where your default ways of argumentation (personal anecdotes, testimonials by others and repeating ad nauseam) won't work.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Alex112]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Dear Sinner. You're still confusing what science says with what we think. I don't think that ashiatsu be necessarily harmful, I was just stating that there is absolutely no actual data to show that it would be beneficial. It may be either, but that has not been demonstrated.

After Mr. Much, a vile atheist who still knows his science and alarmingly the Bible, had asked you not to refer to personal anecdotes, that were still the only kind of evidence you were able to provide. We don't think that shiatsu is something-or-the-other. We just try to seek actual information to determine its nature. You, however, go on with "I don't think that it is that bad".

• What are your methods to determine what is true or not?
• How do you do your research regarding ashiatsu? Please explain.

Second, let us look at you claim of being a Christian.

• What are your religious vies based on?
• Is it just "I think that it is God's calling"?
• How do you know that it is God who called you and not your own thoughts and emotions?
• How did you determine that? Was it your feeling? How do you know if you can trust it?

On the other hand, there is an actual Book, upon which Christianity is based. The KJV Bible. It has some things to say about massage. First, Esther, Chapter 2. Esther was prepared to be the king's consort (mixed-religion sex) by a 12-month course of massage. Massage was the heathen way to make women receptive for animal lusts.

Esther 2:12
Now when every maid's turn was come to go in to king Ahasuerus, after that she had been twelve months, according to the manner of the women, (for so were the days of their purifications accomplished, to wit, six months with oil of myrrh, and six months with sweet odours, and with other things for the purifying of the women)

Are you going to service clients of both sexes?

1 Corinthians 7:1
Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Why as a Christian do you think that A) It is OK to make good money out of a practice that is non-scientific and/or B) based on the verses above, highly suspicious for an Actual Bible-believing Christian? Please don't tapdance around the questions and don't answer them with "I think" or by referring to narratives. Instead, answer them by using actual sources, scientific or Biblical.
This is one of the most basic fallacies in argumentation: the "two wrongs make a right" fallacy or "moral equivalency". It is a simple and extremely common but a totally irrational escape. If something is even worse than ashiatsu, does that make ashiatsu good?

• If Ebola is worse than Covid-19, does it mean that you should go on spreading the less lethal one?
• If killin' and rapin' 1000 altar boys is worse than killin' and rapin' 500 of them, is the 500 alternative OK when there is the choice of not committing either one of these atrocities.

Your claim is also partly a false dilemma, as if we had to choose between ashiatsu or something worse, as we can make the choice of not doing either one of them!

As exemplified in the Book of Esther, there is a lot of preparation was sexual acts going on during massages. In this case, I give you witness testimonials, as that is probably the kind of evidence that you thrive in. How can we know that you will not seduced?

There are actual evidence-based manual therapies such as conventional physiotherapy. Why take on the ballast of massaging in a cumbersome manner with feet when you could do regular physiotherapy with known benefits on recuperation from arthroplasties, rehabilitation from strokes, gaining new skills with rheumatoid arthritis or for amputees etc. etc.? You have the burden of proof. Still.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

The way I know I will not be seduced is because I'm strong minded against that I dont fall for that stuff people use to lure people to stumble. Its really not going to happen to me.


I know you werent saying it wasnt harmful I'm just defending my chosen proffession theirs nothing j want to do

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

Well even if some of you dont think it's an okay practice I'm still gonna become an ashiatsu therapist because I dont think it's that bad I've been a christian for a long time this isnt gonna make me stumble I think being an ashiatsu therapist is Gods calling for me in my life

Dear Sinner. You're still confusing what science says with what we think. I don't think that ashiatsu be necessarily harmful, I was just stating that there is absolutely no actual data to show that it would be beneficial. It may be either, but that has not been demonstrated.

After Mr. Much, a vile atheist who still knows his science and alarmingly the Bible, had asked you not to refer to personal anecdotes, that were still the only kind of evidence you were able to provide. We don't think that shiatsu is something-or-the-other. We just try to seek actual information to determine its nature. You, however, go on with "I don't think that it is that bad".

• What are your methods to determine what is true or not?
• How do you do your research regarding ashiatsu? Please explain.

Second, let us look at you claim of being a Christian.

• What are your religious vies based on?
• Is it just "I think that it is God's calling"?
• How do you know that it is God who called you and not your own thoughts and emotions?
• How did you determine that? Was it your feeling? How do you know if you can trust it?

On the other hand, there is an actual Book, upon which Christianity is based. The KJV Bible. It has some things to say about massage. First, Esther, Chapter 2. Esther was prepared to be the king's consort (mixed-religion sex) by a 12-month course of massage. Massage was the heathen way to make women receptive for animal lusts.

Esther 2:12
Now when every maid's turn was come to go in to king Ahasuerus, after that she had been twelve months, according to the manner of the women, (for so were the days of their purifications accomplished, to wit, six months with oil of myrrh, and six months with sweet odours, and with other things for the purifying of the women)

Are you going to service clients of both sexes?

1 Corinthians 7:1
Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Why as a Christian do you think that A) It is OK to make good money out of a practice that is non-scientific and/or B) based on the verses above, highly suspicious for an Actual Bible-believing Christian? Please don't tapdance around the questions and don't answer them with "I think" or by referring to narratives. Instead, answer them by using actual sources, scientific or Biblical.

There are worst things than ashiatsu that are not ashiatsu and are actually sinful to proven not to work like all of that foolish clearing the mind meditation sage burning and sun worship

This is one of the most basic fallacies in argumentation: the "two wrongs make a right" fallacy or "moral equivalency". It is a simple and extremely common but a totally irrational escape. If something is even worse than ashiatsu, does that make ashiatsu good?

• If Ebola is worse than Covid-19, does it mean that you should go on spreading the less lethal one?
• If killin' and rapin' 1000 altar boys is worse than killin' and rapin' 500 of them, is the 500 alternative OK when there is the choice of not committing either one of these atrocities.

Your claim is also partly a false dilemma, as if we had to choose between ashiatsu or something worse, as we can make the choice of not doing either one of them!

Massaging is not groping and none of that stuff will happen I assure of you I wont let it happen

As exemplified in the Book of Esther, there is a lot of preparation was sexual acts going on during massages. In this case, I give you witness testimonials, as that is probably the kind of evidence that you thrive in. How can we know that you will not seduced?

There are actual evidence-based manual therapies such as conventional physiotherapy. Why take on the ballast of massaging in a cumbersome manner with feet when you could do regular physiotherapy with known benefits on recuperation from arthroplasties, rehabilitation from strokes, gaining new skills with rheumatoid arthritis or for amputees etc. etc.? You have the burden of proof. Still.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Alex112]

Re: Hi my name is Alex

That is always the way it is. Starts out simple and the next thing you know, you are servicing men in a rest stop on the thruway.


Innocently, you are having a conversation with 'one of the guys'. Talking about baseball perhaps.

The two of you play a game of catch. Eventually, you start to pitch and hit. Not realizing the abyss the two of you are slowly stepping into. See, Satan makes the slippery slope gentle at first.
Soon, you are one a team together. Sliding into home, oiling your mitts. Sharing your balls. High fiving.
Soon, you are playing in leagues for the other team. Showering together. Snapping towels. Best buddies, having each others back.
Before long, the two of you steal a base, travel for games unsupervised by a consenting adult. Perhaps sharing a meal. The two of you having private jokes that you tell each other late at night while sharing a seedy motel room.
Do you still think groping strangers is 'Good with God'?

Massaging is not groping and none of that stuff will happen I assure of you I wont let it happen