[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Did you know that Ted Haggard Abused Methamphetamine for years? Thats not counting the time he spent being secretly gay. Maybe those gay demons finally got to him eh? Haggard is a much a role model is Jeffery Dahmer, if you know what I mean.

Did you bother to read Dr. Ville's post before responding to it?

You even QUOTED it!

Pastor Haggard spent literally every day with our pastors for months trying to get rid of the gay sex & heroin demons, and I've never seen Pastor Ezekiel so sweaty and worked-up after emerging from their private conference room after a long day's (and sometimes night's) work. The glow was quite visible!

[Mr. Seth Cochran]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Seth, getting your statues on these forums changed from "Unsaved Trash" means you are going to heaven?

No. You get saved by recognizing that you are the scum of the earth with zero inherent value, repenting for every single one of your sins, and calling on Jesus to forgive you of them, then adhering to each and every letter of the Holy Bible for the rest of eternity. That status change comes after you get saved.

Bathfire, I did not infringe anything. I was not talking about members of your church (who are laughably named "True Christians") but I was talking about the christians who do not preach that God is some sort of psychopath who is obsessed with death and pain. You preach it like we where created just to suffer! Merciful god indeed...

Boy, God is not a psychopath, but he is indeed a killer. In fact, he killed at least 2,391,421 people. That doesn't count all the people killed by God in natural disasters and wars that He caused since then.

Does this sound like the guy who would ignore a life of pure, selfless acts, and see one small imperfection? Heaven will be entirely vacant then, it seems, because not a single person living on earth is perfect.

Yes. We are not perfect, just forgiven.

Call me a demon all you want, Zeke. You do not preach God's love but only hate. I stand by my word.

Well, I don't. I stand by God's word and so does Pastor Ezekiel. You'll regret worshipping yourself when your being skinned alive by demons.

[Forest_dweller (Quarantined)]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Oh yeah? I regret nothing! If I'm in hell, I'll make sure to remember the good times. Heck, I'll even try to argue with God (I hear he is fun at debates).

Maybe I'll pull out a cigar, look at Satan, and say, "Hey, you got a light?" and then laugh harder then hell! (pun intended)

But seriously, demons skinning me? Sounds like something that might have happened in the middle ages. Back then it was "god's people" calling the shots, and I must say, too many people died.

I do not worship myself, foolish boy, I simply believe in my power over my own destiny (there IS a difference).
Ezekiel, if you are reading this (and I suspect you are, how else can you -rep me no matter what I'm saying) then let me tell you this. Look inside your heart. You pretend to know God, but I am certain that when the day comes, you will realize how blind you have been. Thats all.

Hey, maybe I might make friends with Satan. I have all eternity to get to him (I'm a nice guy, you should know) and we will have fun (maybe egg God's front porch once or twice). Seriously, compared to God, Satan does not seem so bad at all.

I expect God to be a role modle (like a father, if you will pardon the analogy). So if he murdered about 2 million people as you say, well, he is not something to look up to. And if being like Jesus makes us good, then John Wayne Gacy sure knew how to please God!

You do not have children and kill them when they misbehave. You do not keep them locked in a dungeon for years when they get a bad grade. If hell is real, God is overdoing it, because nothing, I repeat nothing, anyone can ever do will earn him hell. Even if someone where to murder every second of their lives and live for 1,000 years they still would not be able to do enough to deserve eternity in hell. Another flaw in God's portrait.

[Nobar King]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Hell is not a debate forum, fool. Once you're gone God has no more use for you; Satan becomes your master. Your screams are barely audible from heaven.

[Forest_dweller (Quarantined)]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

And you know this how?
Where you in heaven? Where you sober when this happened?

I'll debate God any time I want. I can even start praying and do it now. I'm sure he has a good sense of argument (if nothing else) that I can enjoy! You looked right through me, I love a good debate, and I love it even more when it is against intelligent minds. But I'm not debating her, I was exploring the possibilty of arguing my way into heaven (if all else fails, you see) and I am happy to say, I have a strong case! Sure I might have not accepted Jesus, but who says that has to be the only way?

And if THAT fails I can debate with Satan as to whether or not I had a fair chance to get in (I do not plan on getting in through you guys, any church but yours, unless the other church is westboro. ) I think it will be splended. A civil battle of the minds is just the thing to liven up those billions of years I would be debating with Satan. Well, see you there, hope you get a good seat!

[Mr. Seth Cochran]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Sure I might have not accepted Jesus, but who says that has to be the only way?

Jesus...

[Forest_dweller (Quarantined)]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

"Judge mercifully and you will be judged mercifully" sorry if I misquoted that, I do not remember the specific book and chapter that was in. Thats a little gem I remember from a while back (yes it is from the bible)
If anyone would care to refresh my memory as to where that nice little verse came from, please do so!

Well, theres more to my case. I have always been a merciful person. Plus I have always been forgiving, and I do not hate grudges (well, I try. I am still human you know! When I see a nasty worm abusing free speach, I cannot help myself, not mentioning any names)

I'm telling you, Jesus is not the only way into heaven. Way to many loopholes to use (I tell you, I could have made a killing as a lawyer)...

And either way, I'm not super worried. If it happens, well then I'm going to hell. So? At least I enjoyed my life here, and I'm not going to be kissing God's sandles begging. I respect myself a bit more then that.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Oh yeah? I regret nothing! If I'm in hell, I'll make sure to remember the good times. Heck, I'll even try to argue with God (I hear he is fun at debates).

Maybe I'll pull out a cigar, look at Satan, and say, "Hey, you got a light?" and then laugh harder then hell! (pun intended)

But seriously, demons skinning me? Sounds like something that might have happened in the middle ages. Back then it was "god's people" calling the shots, and I must say, too many people died.

How old are you son? 16 or maybe 17? Imagine, from the day you were born, until now. Now I know someone with a sickular mind like you has difficulty with abstract concepts they have not experienced first hand, so I'll keep this simple.

So from the day of your birth until now, imagine being in the most excruciating pain, like having burning hot irons shoved under your finger nails, except the pain is over your entire body. And this pain is not only unceasing, but it is getting incrementally more intense with each passing moment.

OK, are you imagining it? Now multiply it by a thousand and you are at about one millionth of the intensity level of torment you will receive in Hell.

And it won't go on for 16 or 17 years, but a million times a million times a MILLION!!! And then it starts all over again! And it goes on FOREVER!!!

Ask Satan for a light? Pah! You're brain will have nothing to do but scream it's agony as your flesh becomes one enflamed mass of PAIN beyond imagining!

And all because you couldn't be bothered to follow Jesus for the blink of an eye that you were on the earth. And it isn't like you weren't warned. As a matter of fact, you are being warned right now!

Repent son, come to Jesus and be SAVED!!! Enternal bliss awaits!

[JennyD]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Ahh, Forrest Gump. You believe in the secular/popular notion of Hell as a place of caverns that happen to be very warm. Sort of like a shopping mall in Southern California when the A/C is broken. As depicted in that movie, "Little Nicky".

Sorry.

The Bible describes Hell. It is a vast lake of fire, which burns eternally.

Those cast into it suffer for all time, and never die.

So, congratulations. You get the gift of eternal life, whether you like it or not! But you'll be on fire the whole time. Oops.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

I'm telling you, Jesus is not the only way into heaven. Way to many loopholes to use (I tell you, I could have made a killing as a lawyer)...

So tell us. What are the non-Jesus ways into Heaven, mr. slimey joo lawyer wannabe?

And either way, I'm not super worried. If it happens, well then I'm going to hell. So? At least I enjoyed my life here, and I'm not going to be kissing God's sandles begging. I respect myself a bit more then that.

If you had any self-respect, you'd be on your knees right now begging Jesus to wash your sins clean with His blood.

Personally, I can't wait to watch you burn in hell.

[Forest_dweller (Quarantined)]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Captain, it is not eternal bliss if you are there. Spending an eternity with the likes of you is a fate worse then death.

Zeke, some of the other ways to get into heaven would be shown to you if you bothered to read further then Leviticus.
Call that self respect? Thats a willful act of submission! I have free will so I can do whatever the hell I want and you can just watch!

Jenny, the gift of eternal life is a curse. It is a gift like getting killed by a train is a gift. Any God would understand. Humans are mortals! Accept it and you will not have to waste the only life you have (and will ever get) on searching for the gift of eternity. Thats what the alchemists did. They wasted away searching for the philosopher's stone, some of them wasted their entire adult lives. And what did they get? Nothing but a hole 6 feet deep to bury their dreams.

Zeke, I'm looking forward to the day when you get proven wrong. There is no eternity. And if there was, I choose eternal death.

[Nobar King]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Boy, you got all of that wrong, really wrong.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Captain, it is not eternal bliss if you are there. Spending an eternity with the likes of you is a fate worse then death.

Look dimwit, once you accept Jesus, you'll see that you and I are much more similar than you can imagine. I daresay you and I share more similarities than differences right now, even though you live a life devoid of the grace of God and I am wrapped close to His righteous bosom, steeped in His divine love as we speak.

You're one of those fools that thinks he's too "cool" for Heaven. I've seen your type many times before. You think you're a loner, a rebel, that the world of "squares" is beneath you. But that's where your wrong!

Heaven is the "heppest" place in the universe! It's like a giant VIP room in the most righteous nightclub! And Saint Peter is working the door. If you're not on his list, you're not getting in, no matter how "down" or "with it" you are.

As a matter of fact, "down" is where you'll be headed, to spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, where there are no two-for-one drink specials and it's NEVER Ladies Night!

[Repentant Liberal]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

I'm afraid you're going to have trouble finding a loophole, does not John 14:6 state:

6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

That's pretty ironclad if you ask me.

[JennyD]

Re: Peter Ezekiel

Zeke, some of the other ways to get into heaven would be shown to you if you bothered to read further then Leviticus.

Could you show us exactly where "getting into Heaven" is mentioned in Leviticus?

Could you also show us where exactly in the Old Testament Jesus describes Himself as the only way to the Father?

Oh, wait. That's in the New Testament.

Call that self respect? Thats a willful act of submission! I have free will so I can do whatever the hell I want and you can just watch!

Sure you can. So can I. And you can burn in Hell for it.

By the way, on this forum, you can do what the Pastors here allow, and no more. They can ban you, you see.

Jenny, the gift of eternal life is a curse. It is a gift like getting killed by a train is a gift. Any God would understand. Humans are mortals! Accept it and you will not have to waste the only life you have (and will ever get) on searching for the gift of eternity. Thats what the alchemists did. They wasted away searching for the philosopher's stone, some of them wasted their entire adult lives. And what did they get? Nothing but a hole 6 feet deep to bury their dreams.

Zeke, I'm looking forward to the day when you get proven wrong. There is no eternity. And if there was, I choose eternal death.

Then why are you talking about "ways to get into Heaven", when you're an atheist who believes there is no such place?