Passerby, Please pass by! (Or just shut up)

[Passerby]

that 9/11 was God's punishment for New York's sinfulness, and that Jews and feminists are evil and so do the millions of people who watch the 700 club:

If Jews are evil, then Jesus must be evil. As far as I know, Jesus was--and is--the farthest thing from evil. Something is either wrong with your statement, or something is wrong with the Bible.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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If Jews are evil, then Jesus must be evil. As far as I know, Jesus was--and is--the farthest thing from evil. Something is either wrong with your statement, or something is wrong with the Bible.

You seem to be implying that Jesus is a damnable joo. You may disabuse yourself of that notion by reading THIS thread.

[Passerby]

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You seem to be implying that Jesus is a damnable joo. You may disabuse yourself of that notion by reading THIS thread.

This is the argument:

P1: All Jews are evil beings.
P2: All persons identical to Jesus are Jews.
C: All persons identical to Jesus are evil beings.

I disagree with the conclusion entirely. However, if P1 is True, and P2 is True, then logically, C must be true as well. But it is not.

So for C to be false, P1 or P2 must be false.


Jesus wasn't called King of the Jews for nothing. So...

[Passerby]

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Excuse the double-post, but there doesn't appear to be an Edit button.

I had just remembered that I cannot read Hebrew or Greek (the original languages the Bible was written in), so my "King of the Jews" statement could be incorrect.

This does not mean I believe P2 to be false.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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This is the argument:

P1: All Jews are evil beings.
P2: All persons identical to Jesus are Jews.
C: All persons identical to Jesus are evil beings.

I disagree with the conclusion entirely. However, if P1 is True, and P2 is True, then logically, C must be true as well. But it is not.

So for C to be false, P1 or P2 must be false.


Jesus wasn't called King of the Jews for nothing. So...

You didn't read a word of that link I posted, did you.

I'd be willing to bet you've never even opened up a Bible, have you.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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This is the argument:

P1: All Jews are evil beings.
P2: All persons identical to Jesus are Jews.
C: All persons identical to Jesus are evil beings.

I disagree with the conclusion entirely. However, if P1 is True, and P2 is True, then logically, C must be true as well. But it is not.

So for C to be false, P1 or P2 must be false.


Jesus wasn't called King of the Jews for nothing. So...

That's not OUR argument. Jesus wasn't a JOO. He was merely baked in a JOOISH oven. Your conclusion suffers from fallacious logic. Since JESUS is GOD, there is NO ONE identical to JESUS. He was called 'king of the JOOS' by the JOOS who were taunting him and who refused to accept Him as their Savior.

So you see where they all are now. On a thin strip of land surrounded by the Biblical equivalent of Orks.

[Passerby]

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You didn't read a word of that link I posted, did you.

I'd be willing to bet you've never even opened up a Bible, have you.

I failed to read it initially. But I will do my own research to either confirm or falsify my belief that Jesus was a Jew.


I am aware there is no one identical to Jesus, practically said in Romans. I typed P2 and C out that way to somewhat standardize the argument with AAA2. (Though I noticed the Major Term is not in P1, but regardless would make sense.)
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Anyway, I would like to address an issue I have not seen yet.
What is it you hope to accomplish with this site/forum/church?

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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I failed to read it initially. But I will do my own research to either confirm or falsify my belief that Jesus was a Jew.


I am aware there is no one identical to Jesus, practically said in Romans. I typed P2 and C out that way to somewhat standardize the argument with AAA2. (Though I noticed the Major Term is not in P1, but regardless would make sense.)
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Anyway, I would like to address an issue I have not seen yet.
What is it you hope to accomplish with this site/forum/church?

For ten years now we have been bringing the literal word of Scripture to the uneducated masses who believe that JESUS is their pal and is coming back to toss rosebuds and plant apple trees. That isn't the case. He is coming to start Armageddon. No one seems to grasp that tiny factiod. Do you pretend at being a logician, Sir? Almost any research you do will either lead you to the Bible and the 'coming upon' of Mary by the Holy Ghost. And while Jewishness passes maternally in humans, Jesus was placed, fully formed in Mary's womb. So he was raised in a Jewish family, but cannot be anything but a divine being.

You might also care to read the books of Flavious Josephus, a contemporary of Jesus, especially 'The war of the Jews'. They are freely available online.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Anyway, I would like to address an issue I have not seen yet.
What is it you hope to accomplish with this site/forum/church?

And I have a question for you. Are you really 107 years old?

Truth time, boy. Jesus is watching.

[Passerby]

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And I have a question for you. Are you really 107 years old?

Truth time, boy. Jesus is watching.

lol hardly. My birthday is not January 1st either, but is it really that important a detail to you? I can change it, if so...
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If you must know, I like to browse the Internet for Christian-Atheist arguments; I guess it would be somewhat of a hobby of mine. While I do not partake in the argument, I examine the logic presented on both sides. And move on...

This site, however, was a very interesting find.

Never did I imagine to find Christians who want non-believers (or rather, non-Christians) to stay away from them. Perhaps you are aware of a method I am not when it comes to guiding non-Christians onto the path of salvation. "Unsaved Unwelcome" Yikes...
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Pastor Al E Pistle, I did not ask what you have been doing for the past ten years, I asked what you hope to accomplish.

For instance, I hope to get to heaven and bring as many people as I can with me. I wholely believe that is mine and everyone's purpose.

I figure the best way to lead others to God is to lead by example: by being kind, respectful, and above all, loving. Jesus hung out with the scumbags and changed them, as am I.

I associate with very ungodly people and try to teach them how their way is wrong and mine is right (which almost seems arrogant of me). I slowly guide folks away from horrid habits like drinking, smoking, sex-addiction, and witchcraft. I am often seen as a light among the darkness. (Sound like anyone you know?)

It seems that the moment you discovered a friend of yours practiced witchcraft, you would not hesitate to beat/stone/burn/hang/etc. him or her on the spot. "Suffer not a witch to live" seems rather loophole-ish to me. If my witch friends can be broken of their practices, are they considered witches in the eyes of God anymore? If not, then I don't have to kill them, for they are no longer be witches! Huzzah! If so, then crap...I don't know if I could follow a direct order to kill someone I care about. Sure, Abraham almost did it, but I'm no Abraham.

I do not fully understand the word of God, and I wonder if I ever will understand it. Isaiah 29:14 says that "human wisdom shall perish, and even the most prudent men's understanding shall vanish." Which basically means to me that I will never completely get it. Adam and Eve sought to know everything that God knows, and look what happened to them. However, I still strive to straighten out facts for myself and others...

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Anyway, I will visit here somewhat frequently, posting and whatnot. Perhaps I will rub off on you, or you on me, or neither will occur. Either way, we'll learn something new.

[Mrs. Rogers]

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It seems that the moment you discovered a friend of yours practiced witchcraft, you would not hesitate to beat/stone/burn/hang/etc. him or her on the spot. "Suffer not a witch to live" seems rather loophole-ish to me.

"Loophole-ish"? That verse is as plain as the nose on your face!

If my witch friends can be broken of their practices, are they considered witches in the eyes of God anymore? If not, then I don't have to kill them, for they are no longer be witches! Huzzah! If so, then crap...I don't know if I could follow a direct order to kill someone I care about.

Therein lies your problem: you are caring about witches, who dance naked under the moon for Satan, aggravating God Himself with their menstrual-blood potions and general flabbiness of buttock.

You ought to be caring about your fellow Christians. Why don't you care about us?

[Passerby]

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You ought to be caring about your fellow Christians. Why don't you care about us?

Only the sick need a doctor, yes?

[Mrs. Rogers]

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Only the sick need a doctor, yes?

The genuinely sick don't need doctors -- prayer and faith will suffice, if they have found favour with God.

As for witches, all they need is to be strapped to a stake and inserted into a big bonfire; that certainly rids them of what ails them.

[Passerby]

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The genuinely sick don't need doctors -- prayer and faith will suffice, if they have found favour with God.

As for witches, all they need is to be strapped to a stake and inserted into a big bonfire; that certainly rids them of what ails them.

Basically killing them instead of saving them. How does that get one of God's creations into heaven, again?

[Wide-Open]

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Basically killing them instead of saving them. How does that get one of God's creations into heaven, again?

It doesn't cupcakes. It dropkicks their butts faster down to hell. Are you a hippie Friend? Are you saying that no creation of His ever ends up in hell?