Try and convert me. No joke.

[Dpn]

Hello, my name is Stephen, I am what you might call an agnostic, I believe that it is possible that there is a higher power in the universe yet I am not fully convinced. With that being said, I joined this site for the sole purpose of finding a definite answer. I am not an ignorant man, I am well versed in the history of many religions as well as the history and theories of the bible, but I have no faith.

By this time in reading this most of you have already slanted your opinion of me way down south but hear me out.

I ask that you bring your smartest and wisest and try and convert me to your religion, I will argue my points and you will argue yours, I will not accept answers just because they are said, there has to be reason behind them and infalable logic (because God says so is not valid).

This is a friendly arguement,there will be no swearing,no put downs, no threats etc. If you cant get your point across the good Christian way then dont bother, with that being said, I will abide by my own rules.

My very first question(s) in this whole religion thing would have to be why every thread i see here is about how most everyone and everything is inherently evil and should be cast aside? I have skimmed through and found nothing wrong with most things that are "evil" on this site. There is nothing wrong with Juggling or Halo 3 or Lazy town (examples,not here to argue those). So my questions are, what is good? What do you find to be not evil? Is it safe to do anything?

[yingtang]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Hello, my name is Stephen, I am what you might call an agnostic, I believe that it is possible that there is a higher power in the universe yet I am not fully convinced. With that being said, I joined this site for the sole purpose of finding a definite answer. I am not an ignorant man, I am well versed in the history of many religions as well as the history and theories of the bible, but I have no faith.

By this time in reading this most of you have already slanted your opinion of me way down south but hear me out.

I ask that you bring your smartest and wisest and try and convert me to your religion, I will argue my points and you will argue yours, I will not accept answers just because they are said, there has to be reason behind them and infalable logic (because God says so is not valid).

This is a friendly arguement,there will be no swearing,no put downs, no threats etc. If you cant get your point across the good Christian way then dont bother, with that being said, I will abide by my own rules.

My very first question(s) in this whole religion thing would have to be why every thread i see here is about how most everyone and everything is inherently evil and should be cast aside? I have skimmed through and found nothing wrong with most things that are "evil" on this site. There is nothing wrong with Juggling or Halo 3 or Lazy town (examples,not here to argue those). So my questions are, what is good? What do you find to be not evil? Is it safe to do anything?

+1 welcome to the site . I am doing simlir.
while you wait. Which if they must abide by the rules you will wait for along time you might want to read this . and see were this will go.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=22128&page=1

maybe this:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=326428

if your intrested search throw my posts. I dont insult them or at least try not to. I ask only for logic. And I play give them almost all the advantages. Make sure you spell perfectly here also. They will ignore you ideas and thoughts and continuly to the point of ignorance. Also any scripture they quote look up . These use it out of context frequently.

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Hi Stephen,

To be fair, anyone who starts a post with "Try and convert me" isn't sincerely seeking to convert, but rather to challenge others to a debate. It would've been more honest if you made your title: "Let's debate". Really. You AREN'T seeking a conversion, are you.

And regarding Yingyangting...
if your intrested search throw my posts. I dont insult them or at least try not to. I ask only for logic. And I play give them almost all the advantages. Make sure you spell perfectly here also. They will ignore you ideas and thoughts and continuly to the point of ignorance. Also any scripture they quote look up . These use it out of context frequently.

It's not so much spelling perfectly, Yang, but the fact that you GROSSLY MISSPELL EVERY OTHER WORD. It makes it hard for people to have to read your posts and it's downright frustrating! You wonder why people have difficulty grasping your arguments when your arguments are constructed in some kind of backwards pidgin English?

Nobody has ignored your thoughts and ideas....have you noticed how many people have responded to you? Including me. I am not ignoring you.

No one has insulted you either. Perhaps we may have pointed out some things about yourself that you might not like to hear, but that is not an insult. Just honesty.

[yingtang]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Hi Stephen,

To be fair, anyone who starts a post with "Try and convert me" isn't sincerely seeking to convert, but rather to challenge others to a debate. It would've been more honest if you made your title: "Let's debate". Really. You AREN'T seeking a conversion, are you.

And regarding Yingyangting...
if your intrested search throw my posts. I dont insult them or at least try not to. I ask only for logic. And I play give them almost all the advantages. Make sure you spell perfectly here also. They will ignore you ideas and thoughts and continuly to the point of ignorance. Also any scripture they quote look up . These use it out of context frequently.

It's not so much spelling perfectly, Yang, but the fact that you GROSSLY MISSPELL EVERY OTHER WORD. It makes it hard for people to have to read your posts and it's downright frustrating! You wonder why people have difficulty grasping your arguments when your arguments are constructed in some kind of backwards pidgin English?

Nobody has ignored your thoughts and ideas....have you noticed how many people have responded to you? Including me. I am not ignoring you.

No one has insulted you either. Perhaps we may have pointed out some things about yourself that you might not like to hear, but that is not an insult. Just honesty.

Is the word chink an insult? what about the word nigras? race traitor? idiot. imbecile. Runt. to name a few. And thats from your Beloved Senior Theologian. What about Dumbassese from you? Not a paticluarly bright insult. a little used. okay it sucked. but it was an attempt to imply that i was / am a dumb ass.

but know lets talk facts stay on subject. What isn't evil amoung the LBC?

[Dpn]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Well lets be honest then, I dont believe in God,but am willing to concede the point that its a possibility. Religions go on mission trips to convert non-believers even if they dont want to be (see: spanish inquisition). So I've done all the work for you and come direct to your door with the idea in my mind that there might be a god. Im surprised you arent jumping all over that,or at the very least answering my questions.

[yingtang]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Well lets be honest then, I dont believe in God,but am willing to concede the point that its a possibility. Religions go on mission trips to convert non-believers even if they dont want to be (see: spanish inquisition). So I've done all the work for you and come direct to your door with the idea in my mind that there might be a god. Im surprised you arent jumping all over that,or at the very least answering my questions.

These people arnt intrested.

[sarcasm]
Really? I had no idea Jesus cared so much about my grammar? He cares Deeply?
[/sarcasm]

Weres that in the bible?


Then how can you meet the church rule of saving souls per week?



+1 I agree.
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He just saved your soul. By avoiding contact with you, he has now justified all the hatred and racism he spits in the name of saving souls, only to avoid contact with those whose he speaks about.
[/sarcasm]

from http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...422#post326422
also responds to his grammar thing. This guy later in the post attempted to provide scripture to back up Jesus emphasis on grammar. I missed that sermon. And rubuked his scripture.

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Is the word chink an insult? what about the word nigras? race traitor? idiot. imbecile. Runt. to name a few. And thats from your Beloved Senior Theologian. What about Dumbassese from you? Not a paticluarly bright insult. a little used. okay it sucked. but it was an attempt to imply that i was / am a dumb ass.

but know lets talk facts stay on subject. What isn't evil amoung the LBC?

Let me sort out these "insults" for you...
Chink = Merely an illustrative word regarding a person of Oriental descent.
Nigras = From Negro, a perfectly FINE word for hundreds of years, until the P.C. police showed up and said it was "bad"
Race Traitor = A descriptive word about people who perform treasonous activities of their own race. Not an insult. Just a description, relax.
Idiot/Imbecile = By definition, people with below average IQ. If you demonstrate a below average IQ, and somebody calls you on it, they are not being insulting, just scientifically accurate.
Runt = The smallest of the litter. Dog breeders use the word daily. What's wrong with it?

Dumbassese is not an insult, but rather it is the language of those who cannot speak proper English. Bad grammar, improper syntax, and misspelling are the hallmarks of Dumbassese speakers. PLEASE, PLEASE then tell me how you don't speak Dumbassese in your posts, since every single one is riddled with crimes against the English language?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Hello, my name is Stephen, I am what you might call an agnostic, I believe that it is possible that there is a higher power in the universe yet I am not fully convinced. With that being said, I joined this site for the sole purpose of finding a definite answer. I am not an ignorant man, I am well versed in the history of many religions as well as the history and theories of the bible, but I have no faith.

By this time in reading this most of you have already slanted your opinion of me way down south but hear me out.

I ask that you bring your smartest and wisest and try and convert me to your religion, I will argue my points and you will argue yours, I will not accept answers just because they are said, there has to be reason behind them and infalable logic (because God says so is not valid).

This is a friendly arguement,there will be no swearing,no put downs, no threats etc. If you cant get your point across the good Christian way then dont bother, with that being said, I will abide by my own rules.

My very first question(s) in this whole religion thing would have to be why every thread i see here is about how most everyone and everything is inherently evil and should be cast aside? I have skimmed through and found nothing wrong with most things that are "evil" on this site. There is nothing wrong with Juggling or Halo 3 or Lazy town (examples,not here to argue those). So my questions are, what is good? What do you find to be not evil? Is it safe to do anything?

Pal, Jesus has called you here for a reason. This is not a debate site. We don't argue with unsaved trash, nor are we particularly interested in your "logic" nonsense. We follow the one true Bible here, the KJV1611 Authorized Version.

You have come waltzing in here uninvited thinking you're a very clever boy, I can see that. You think that you are above us "in-bred redneck Bible-thumpers," don't you? You imagine yourself impervious to our words.

Well I've got news for you, boy; Through Jesus, ALL things are possible! He can turn water into wine, He can raise the dead, He can curse a fig tree....Do you really think that He can't take your stone cold hateful heart and crush it into sand?

Won't you get on your knees and ask Him into your heart? Jesus is waiting for you.

[Larry Lee]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Well lets be honest then, I dont believe in God,but am willing to concede the point that its a possibility. Religions go on mission trips to convert non-believers even if they dont want to be (see: spanish inquisition). So I've done all the work for you and come direct to your door with the idea in my mind that there might be a god. Im surprised you arent jumping all over that,or at the very least answering my questions.

Jump all over your appearance here? We don't have time for that. We're too busy eating popcorn while we watch God have His way with you.

[Don the Baptist]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Is the word chink an insult? what about the word nigras? race traitor? idiot. imbecile. Runt. to name a few.

Son, we are simply attempting to show you the love of Jesus Christ and you are stiff-necked. God hates a stiff-necked people!

Exodus 32.9-10 - And the Lord said to Moses, "I have seen this people, and behold, it is a stiff-necked people; now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may burn hot against them and I may consume them.

You do NOT want the wrath of God to burn hot against you! Perhaps you should be more motivated to receive baby Jesus into your heart and stop being so whiney and belligerent. Jesus died (temporarily) for your sins and he is knocking at your hearts door, won't you answer friend?

[Don the Baptist]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

1 - Hello, my name is Stephen, I am what you might call an agnostic God Hater, idiot, hateful sinner.

2 - I ask that you bring your smartest and wisest and try and convert me to your religion

Agnostic is not descriptive enough; that could indicate any number of liberal, cafeteria Christians as well and a miserable, toothless atheist like yourself.

Why should our best and brightest give two hoots and a tin whistle about converting you. The unsaved are unwelcomed here. Once you accept baby Jesus into your heart THEN we might have something to talk about until then we are commanded to hate you and steer clear of you.

2 Corinthians 6.14 - Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Did you see that son? Be NOT yoked with unbelievers (that might as well say your name). Baby Jesus loves you and I do too. I don't hate you, I hate your cold, hateful heart (and the fact that you are probably a rump pumping homersexual).

[yingtang]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Hey space jesus. Your a chink negra idiot imbecile,...
I had no idea those were really just Discriptive words. Man Lets ask chinese how the feel about being called chinks.

How does god feel about being called a negra idiot.

But hey. Guy asks you guys to tell him about your belief. Thats what he wanted. and I gave him more offical church materal than you. I gave him your offical church beleif page. And a coupla articles. What did you guys do?
Call him a homosexual, god hating atheists.

Now? What did we achieve?

[Don the Baptist]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Hey space jesus. Your a chink negra idiot imbecile,...
I had no idea those were really just Discriptive words. Man Lets ask chinese how the feel about being called chinks.

How does god feel about being called a negra idiot.

But hey. Guy asks you guys to tell him about your belief. Thats what he wanted. and I gave him more offical church materal than you. I gave him your offical church beleif page. And a coupla articles. What did you guys do?
Call him a homosexual, god hating atheists.

Now? What did we achieve?

Are you calling me an idiot? I love you with the love of Jesus and you talk to me like that? Wow, you are a hurtful, mean son of a bitch aren't you? I am just so upset right now over this hatred that you spew forth.

All I did was try to show you that even a Godless gook that dates nigras could be saved. Please note that (in love) I pointed out some areas in which you might work on capitalization, spelling, grammar and basic sentence structure.

[yingtang]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Are you calling me an idiot? I love you with the love of Jesus and you talk to me like that? Wow, you are a hurtful, mean son of a bitch aren't you? I am just so upset right now over this hatred that you spew forth.

All I did was try to show you that even a Godless gook that dates nigras could be saved. Please note that (in love) I pointed out some areas in which you might work on capitalization, spelling, grammar and basic sentence structure.

Now in reality did i call you an idiot? I called the guy who told me an idiot wasn't an insulting an idiot. Witch should matter because to him the word isn't insulting at all. Now am i hateful or is this community hateful? After all the insult witch even I am willing to let go for much need answers. What scripture say i can beat my wife. and What scripture says i cant be with a black woman because i am white.

Out of the 2 attempts have been made at the racial one. The scripture related to pageans , and seculars. Not Races.

Other reasons i have got was because she is black she will be okay with beatings her people are used to it. I was told thats not racist. However said that is an 'idiot' in the uninsulting way (witch dosn't exist). It is rasist. Saying black people have a history of beatings isn't rasist. A black girl might like a beating because she is black is racist.

So hear you spread the love of god with racism and hatred. Then when things don't look you way. You call me hateful. I didn't make any racist remarks. In fact i didn't even call anyone an idiot tell i learned it was uninsulting.

So again. All you did was call a new member a homosexual atheist god hater because he was a little confused. He wanted to know about your religion. He was not agnostic. He believed in possiblity of god and was intrested. You should have jumped on this like he mentioned. Your senior theologain should have been here posting theology not hate. Witch he does post and im prepared to quote him if you guys deny it.

[Don the Baptist]

Re: Try and convert me. No joke.

Now in reality did i call you an idiot? I called the guy who told me an idiot wasn't an insulting an idiot. Witch should matter because to him the word isn't insulting at all. Now am i hateful or is this community hateful? After all the insult witch even I am willing to let go for much need answers. What scripture say i can beat my wife. and What scripture says i cant be with a black woman because i am white.

Out of the 2 attempts have been made at the racial one. The scripture related to pageans , and seculars. Not Races.

Other reasons i have got was because she is black she will be okay with beatings her people are used to it. I was told thats not racist. However said that is an 'idiot' in the uninsulting way (witch dosn't exist). It is rasist. Saying black people have a history of beatings isn't rasist. A black girl might like a beating because she is black is racist.

So hear you spread the love of god with racism and hatred. Then when things don't look you way. You call me hateful. I didn't make any racist remarks. In fact i didn't even call anyone an idiot tell i learned it was uninsulting.

So again. All you did was call a new member a homosexual atheist god hater because he was a little confused. He wanted to know about your religion. He was not agnostic. He believed in possiblity of god and was intrested. You should have jumped on this like he mentioned. Your senior theologain should have been here posting theology not hate. Witch he does post and im prepared to quote him if you guys deny it.

Holy smokes - do you actually read stuff BEFORE you click the submit button? I can't even reply to this, what exactly are you attempting to say?