[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Help!

I must ask,

Where does the command to burn a witch come from?

The power of Christ and the sign of the cross is a christians defence against the dark...Self defence is not the issue here...so where do you get the justification to burn "witches"

Burning isn't specified as the means of execution, but God says to kill them.

Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

He also says not to tolerate them among our people.

Deuteronomy 18: 10-12

10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Finally, He says that all such people will not go to Heaven (there's only one other place to go, and that's Hell):

Galatians 5:19-21

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. [quote]

We are not Islam, we are not told to persecute non-believers.

Correct, we're told to execute them, not to make fun of them.

We're also told to destroy them utterly from the face of the earth, if they abandon God and lust after false idols. (See Numbers 31 and the treatment of the Midianites. It's what modern folks call "genocide", but we call it "Godly justice".)

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Help!

I must ask,

Where does the command to burn a witch come from?

The power of Christ and the sign of the cross is a christians defence against the dark...Self defence is not the issue here...so where do you get the justification to burn "witches"

What are you? Some sort of atheist?

Ex:22:18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Self-Defence? Why do we need that? The Lord looks over us!

We are not Islam, we are not told to persecute non-believers. The Salem witch trials was a perversion of christianity just like the inquisition was.
please clarify

Why are you telling me, a True Christian(tm) that "we" are not Islam (and for your information - you retard, the word is "Muslin")

What have the Salem witch trials got to do with it - they were all guilty as Hell! The only perversions were those of the witches. Those were the days! God's Law was heeded. It shall return.

[Orthodox]

Re: Help!

In Regard to the Exodus and the Deuteronomy quotation...

Those were made by Moses instructing the Jews on the convenant he made with God and how the Jews should act. This is not in reference to Christians today and the Old Convenant was replaced with the "New Law" and new way to salvation - Christ.

The Galatians quotation is St. Pauls letter to the Christian tribes of Gaul instructing them that Christians should not do those things. It does not say to kill them and persecute those that do like in the Old Testement.
Please note that.
And we are all sinners...we all have sins and unless we repent from them, we will neither inherit the Kingdom of God.

And if you disagree and say you are without sin, then you are not Man...which I doubt.

And I politely referred to Islam as the faith...Muslim applies to an individual.

And the Witch hunt caused mass panic among people and I'm sure many were killed with the label of being a witch or sorcerer when they were innocent. They even said so in their trials. If they were thrown into the frozen lake and sank, they were a witch or sorcerer. If they floated then they were innocent.

The God's Law you refer to is the Old Testement and Judiasm. Are you Christian or Jewish? I'm confused now?

[JennyD]

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In Regard to the Exodus and the Deuteronomy quotation...

Those were made by Moses instructing the Jews on the convenant he made with God and how the Jews should act. This is not in reference to Christians today and the Old Convenant was replaced with the "New Law" and new way to salvation - Christ.

Please show us where Jesus (Christ is a title, not a name) said that He came to tell us to disregard the Law and replace it with "New Law".

The Galatians quotation is St. Pauls letter to the Christian tribes of Gaul instructing them that Christians should not do those things. It does not say to kill them and persecute those that do like in the Old Testement.

No, it says that those who commit those acts "will not inherit the Kingdom of God". Isn't that what RevRod said?

Please note that.

Please pay attention when responding.

And we are all sinners...we all have sins and unless we repent from them, we will neither inherit the Kingdom of God.

Christians have repented of their sin and been washed Pure in the Blood of the Lamb. We are thenceforth without sin; for anyone who continues to sin has not truly repented and cannot be truly Saved.

The God's Law you refer to is the Old Testement and Judiasm. Are you Christian or Jewish? I'm confused now?

Doesn't take much, does it? Heck, you can't even spell "Testament" or "Judaism", so it shouldn't be a surprise.

Matthew 5:

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[yingtang]

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You reject God, you underwent a false Baptism, you support sodomites (and God knows what else), and your grammar, spelling and puncuation offend Jesus deeply.

[sarcasm]
Really? I had no idea Jesus cared so much about my grammar? He cares Deeply?
[/sarcasm]

Weres that in the bible?

It isn't we who reject you, it's Jesus.

Until you are Saved©, True Christians™ are commanded by Him to avoid contact with you.

Then how can you meet the church rule of saving souls per week?

If you avoid contact with me then how am I to be saved?

+1 I agree.
[sarcasm]
He just saved your soul. By avoiding contact with you, he has now justified all the hatred and racism he spits in the name of saving souls, only to avoid contact with those whose he speaks about.
[/sarcasm]

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Help!

[sarcasm]Really? I had no idea Jesus cared so much about my grammar? He cares Deeply? [/sarcasm]

Weres that in the bible?

Your attitude to Landover’s offer of Salvation™ is reprehensible and unpleasant. Sister JennyD has already given you the answer: M't:5:18: For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I suggest you look up “jot” and “tittle” - Jesus is very keen that you keep to exact words and phrases, not deciding you know better than He or that “It really does not matter.”

Then how can you meet the church rule of saving souls per week?

There is no “Souls per week” quota. Even one sinner’s repentance in my lifetime is reward enough.

+1 I agree.
[sarcasm]
He just saved your soul. By avoiding contact with you, he has now justified all the hatred and racism he spits in the name of saving souls, only to avoid contact with those whose he speaks about.
[/sarcasm]

Your grammar has rendered your words incomprehensible – God sends confusion to His Enemies.


Jer:20:11: But the LORD is with me as a mighty terrible one: therefore my persecutors shall stumble, and they shall not prevail: they shall be greatly ashamed; for they shall not prosper: their everlasting confusion shall never be forgotten.

[yingtang]

Re: Help!

Your attitude to Landover’s offer of Salvation™ is reprehensible and unpleasant. Sister JennyD has already given you the answer: M't:5:18: For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

In other words Remove no wise law from the books?

There is no “Souls per week” quota. Even one sinner’s repentance in my lifetime is reward enough.

"failure to bring at least one new guest to church a week, failure to win at least one soul a week,"

from:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/beliefs.html

[JennyD]

Re: Help!

In other words Remove no wise law from the books?

No.

"in no wise" = "in no way".

[yingtang]

Re: Help!

Scripture Quote Fail for Ezekiel:

Mathew:5:17 - 5:19

"Do not think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I did not come to destory but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you till heav and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever there fore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kindom of heaven..."

So this isn't about law? Its about written correctly every tittle? Then why did you abbreviate Matthew.

[Nurse Clampett]

Re: Help!

Scripture Quote Fail for Ezekiel:

Pardon my interjection, but you sound like a PC with Windows 98 running on the fritz.
Please type in coherent sentences. I can feel the gears in my brain come to a screeching halt when I read your posts.

[yingtang]

Re: Help!

What I mean is that Ezekiel has quoted scripture wrongly. Either unaware of its context. Or Attempting to mislead me. Maybe thought use of some search the bible tool? Regardless. The scripture he quoted to say why the lord cares about my grammar was out of context and wrong. As shown in the original post that unreadable due to the line "scripture quote fail to you."

[Nurse Clampett]

Re: Help!

I still think you post like a defective computer.

[yingtang]

Re: Help!

I still think you post like a defective computer.

Help me correct then if you please. I think he quoted that scripture out of context. That scripture was about law. I quoted It above. I still want to know where in the bible it says Jesus requires proper grammar.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Help!

What I mean is that Ezekiel has quoted scripture wrongly. Either unaware of its context. Or Attempting to mislead me. Maybe thought use of some search the bible tool? Regardless. The scripture he quoted to say why the lord cares about my grammar was out of context and wrong. As shown in the original post that unreadable due to the line "scripture quote fail to you."

You're an idiot. The point of that scripture is that God does in fact care very much about even the smallest detail. That includes your unspeakably poor grammar, spelling and punctuation.

You are being willfully vexatious now, and are very close to wearing out what little welcome you had.

[yingtang]

Re: Help!

You're an idiot. The point of that scripture is that God does in fact care very much about even the smallest detail. That includes your unspeakably poor grammar, spelling and punctuation.

You are being willfully vexatious now, and are very close to wearing out what little welcome you had.

I disagree. I think in fact my pastor mentioned that scripture before. This refers to Jesus, as he is gaining in followers. He says he has not come to break the laws but to fulfill them to the letter. Saying you will follow laws to the letter is not usually associated with spelling. It means following laws to the most minute detail. Jesus hear is speaking on laws. not spelling. Witch I offer up that laws and spelling are immensely different.