[Nobar King]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

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[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

I honestly don't know. Some sects of Christianity do, some do not. I actually know very little about your actual practices, as you seem to be a somewhat small group. (I could be wrong).

Possibly I should have used the word "purpose" instead of "point". I'm not asking for some kind of brownie points or something. Because that would just be dumb.

[Nobar King]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

You don't get any points for that stupid question.

[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

Wow. That actually tickled a little bit....

But seriously, I've never hexed or vexed anyone. The suggestion that I even could is really rather unrealistic and absurd. I possess no supernatural power. I am a mortal man. Believe me, if I did possess such abilities, I would openly admit it. I'm pretty sure there is not a single human being on the face of the Earth that actually possesses unGodly powers.

I'm curious. Does your Church practice the Eucharist? (Point for asking to come after answer)

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

This is a very powerful prayer against Witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold.

Father,
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I plead the precious uncorruptable blood of Jesus over myself and my family and everything that belongs to us. I ask for giant warrior Angels to be loosed from Heaven to surround and protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undamn, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, physic prayers, physic thought, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, physic power, physic warfare, prayer chains, and everything else being sent my way or my family members way, and I return it and the demons to the senders right now!, SEVENFOLD, and I BIND it to them by the Blood of Jesus!

Father, I pray that these lost souls will find the light of your son Jesus.. Their own snares and traps have been set against themselves.. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I now loose them from all mindcontrol of satan!.. Father I also ask that you Bind the Holy Spirit to there hearts as a guide to your son Jesus.. So they may be set free from the bondages of satan.

In Jesus name I pray..
Amen

[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

I honestly did not know that the Bible dictates that you follow the rule of earthly law and government. All I've seen on the subject is people who insist that it is the duty of every Chrisitian to exact "Godly Conclusion". The scripture had been quoted here in these pages (after which is when I opened my invitation to "bring it"). I just figured that if the belief was truly there, someone would have the courage to step up.

I also didn't want anyone to walk into such a situation blindly. Hence, my warning.
While no one here has threatened to kill me directly, some have sited passages that order them to dispatch "people like me". Again, hence the invitation.

I thank you for clearing that up. It would have been a shame for me to have assumed that the reason no one would step up to such a challenge is because they don't believe strongly enough to expect God to protect them. That or they aren't willing to risk their life/freedom to fulfill such a duty. Again. thanks for clearing that up.

I'd end with another statement of peace and friendship, but apparently that's a heathen witch-curse. So I guess have a great day. I'll be back later to see where this goes. Believe it or not, I'm enjoying this discussion.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

You’re weird. No one has said that they will kill you… yet. God is clear on this one:


1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1st Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
1st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:


So with patience and restraint ordained by God, we await the coming of a Christian Theocracy in which the Lord’s Will will be the whole of the Law. At this point, the witch problem will be brought to a Godly conclusion.

In fact, we believe that the only duty of Government is to facilitate a State’s citizens to ascend to Heaven by preparing them for the Second Coming.

If you find this at all strange, this is exactly what Christianity requires – all those other so-called Christians actually subscribe to this too, whether they admit it or not. All Churches have it as their aim but few are as open as Landover.

Voting Republican whenever possible will help.

[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

You may be correct, Nobar. I just am curious to see if there is any among you that believes strongly enough to act. I'm not saying that any one of you has threatened me directly, I've just responded to the posts that site scripture calling on Christians to kill "people like me". Also I wanted to warn that, should there be one among you up for the challenge, it will be no simple task.

I do not hate a single one of you. I may disagree with your beliefs in some regards, but I do not hate you. I would do nothing to harm anyone, save that they intended to harm me or my family. That is the main tenant of my beliefs - "An you harm none, do as you will. An it cause harm, do as you must" (if you like I can present that in the original Celtic Gaelic.)

[Nobar King]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

I fear that you might have a persecution complex.

[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

in what way? How does one interperate "KILL unsaved scum like you" to mean anything but murder???

Or do you mean that the logic of protecting myself against murderers is faulty logic because of the fact that I am unsaved? That being unsaved I'm supposed to lay down for you?

[Nobar King]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

You seem like you might be an intelligent person, but your logic is really faulty.

[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

Extreme???

I'm simply stating that if someone comes to my house to KILL me, I will defend myself. Notice how I said "Anyone who comes to my home with the intent of HARMING myself or my family..." It has been said by more than one of you that God tells you "thou shall not suffer a witch to live" to which you feel that it means to KILL people you deem as witches

Pastor Ezekiel seems to be claiming that he has already done so

“And by the way, we do have an annual witch hunt here in Freehold. Last year I personally bagged 5 of them.”

that seems to mean that, with it being a witch hunt and all, he means that he killed 5 people last year. ( I sincerely hope that’s not what he means, but I've learned not to assume anything with you guys/girls)

He also said “God commands us to KILL unsaved scum like you at several points in the Holy Bible. He isn't contradicting Himself, He's giving orders…..one of the first things we'll do is round up every witch and KILL them DEAD, to please Jesus. (parts omitted to shorten, Words capitalized to emphasize.)”

Sister Mary Maria said “If "Thou shalt not kill" meant anything other than "Don't commit murder", the Bible wouldn't then be filled with God telling us who and when to kill through legal capital punishment and righteous warfare”

All of that says to me that “bring the word of the LORD” Means KILL me. So tell me, how is it extreme to say that I will not stand idly by and allow people to come in my home and harm me and my family?

[Nobar King]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

Now you're threatening to kill people who come to your house to bring the Word of the Lord? That's pretty extreme.

[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

You have my name and address do you? Indulge me, what is it? Go ahead. I really don't care if you post it. In fact I insist that you do.

I don't really understand the point of telling me that God wants you to go out and spread the word. as far as I understand this forum is not a church. perhaps I'm wrong. Even if you do consider this forum a church, I did come to you, looking for understanding of your culture and beliefs.

Also, just a note. While I have invited any who dare to come and enact God's will, I will not just stand outside and accept "devine justice". Just because I am a peace loving tree hugger doesn't mean that I am defenseless. Anyone who comes to my home with the intent of harming myself or my family better hope that God will protect them from .50 Caliber Desert Eagle and 12 gauge scatter rounds. Just putting out there. But the invitation is still open.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

My good pastor, I apologize for any confusion. What I meant is that the Old Testament was passed down in the ancient form of hebrew, while in the New Testament, Christ spoke the language of the region at the time Aramaic (Which I do not speak).
Thank you for the clarification on the possibility of things getting lost in translation. I understand now that you don't see that as a possibility. Maybe Jesus did speak English. I wasn't around then, so I don't know.

OK. let me back up. I never asked for any red carpet treatment. I just don't understand why it is that instead of legitimately answering my questions, everyone on here flings insults. I initially came here to stand up for my own beliefs. I remain here to learn more about yours. I ask these questions not to insult your beliefs, but to learn more about them. Ever think that maybe, just maybe, someone who's curious about your beliefs could be converted? Not that I plan to, but neither did the Celts.

How do people get saved if they are not allowed to attend church? Is that what you're asking?

It never ceases to amaze us the number of so-called "Christians" ask us this question. If they would only blow the dust off of their Bibles and put their noses into the 16th Chapter of Mark, they would find that Jesus commands us to evangelize the world! He didn't say, "find a comfortable pew each Sunday morning and cross your fingers in hopes that some unsaved piece of human refuse will walk through the doors of your church." No, he said, ""Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel." That word, "go" there is a verb. And for those of you illiterate, misguided Christians who allow unsaved people through the doors of your church each Sunday morning, a verb is an "action word," and "go" means "GO!" as in "leave," or "SCRAM!" It doesn't mean, sit on your hiney! The only place for evangelism is outside the confines of the Lord's four-walled holy dwelling place. God's home is a place for True Christians™ to fellowship. Allowing an unsaved person into church is like President Barack Hussein Obama inviting members of the ACLU into the Oval Office to sit in on a meeting to discuss ways of getting Prayer back in schools. It's something you JUST DON'T DO! PERIOD!

Now my main question. If the Bible says that it is your God appointed duty to kill witches, I find myself wondering, if I were to give out my contact information, would any of you actually have the courage to take up that mission (or try to)? Now remember, if you say that you will just so I give you my contact info, and then don't do it, you're not lying to me, you're lying to God.

We already have their names and addresses, as we do yours. The DOF works around the clock to keep America Christian.

And by the way, we do have an annual witch hunt here in Freehold. Last year I personally bagged 5 of them.