Why Jesus?

[max henning]

quick question, everyone hear refers to Jesus as if he is the best thing since washing machines, but how can Jesus' word be the only holy thing, when his teachings are based off the teachings and traditions of ancient Judaism?
by that logic, that Jesus is the epitome of Holiness, then Judaism, from whence Jesus arose, must be honored above all else. in the same way that one honors ones' roots. Jesus' roots are in Judaism, so doesnt that make Judaism honored above jesus? since Jesus' teachings would be impossible without the backdrop of Judaism that formed his beliefs.

moreover, out of simple curiosity, why is the Bible taken as word of law, sometimes out of context, and without the knowledge that it was written hundreds of thousands of years ago, with only minor adaptations? is it not logical that some things are not applicable anymore, that the societies which spurred the writing of the bible may have been conducive to passages which to not apply to our current globalized society? in this way, should not any direct quote from the bible be taken with a grain of salt, because of the knowledge that some phrases/ideas/passages may simply be out of date?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Jesus?

Dear God-mocker;

Who are you to demand all these "whys" of God? Have you even bothered to read the Holy Bible? I doubt it. You're just making a career out of tearing it down, doing the work of satan.

How old are you? Have you ever been to church? If so, which false Christians did you get hooked up with?

If you want to know more about our Church Doctrines, please read THIS thread. And keep the hatemongering to yourself.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why Jesus?

Quite the quickie, heathen.

The good Pastor responded but then your mommy caught you on the computer looking at gay porn and she cut off your talleywacker, hence no rebuttal?

[max henning]

Re: Why Jesus?

I am sorry if I have offended you in any way. All that I am trying to do is to better understand. I can't believe that curiosity and the urge to better comprehend these things is sinful?

i asked a simple question, and in reply i am addressed as "heathen" and "god-mocker"

...it speaks quite highly of Jesus' followers that they have so much decency when addressing someone who professed to be curious.
did Jesus teach to estrange anyone who searched for better understanding, for greater meaning? i fear you have strayed from his teachings, and are as much in the dark as i am, the difference between us is that i recognize my imperfection, and you do not. that is your downfall

to the honorable Mr. Hutchins, i was occupied with a meal. dinner, if i need be more specific. Im sorry you felt the need to insult me yet again for my curiosity

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why Jesus?

We are shocked to think you would question God? Who do you think you are? Personally, the good Pastor showed a lot of restraint. Certainly more than I but I have an ankle bracelet on so I have to stay calm. Then you have audacity, to traipse back in here, and after all your cutting words about God, then profess to us we are not following the very words that you questioned? You do not know me at all however you think you can judge me? Only God may judge me, sir.

Finally, you think it is polite to start a conversation and then just sashay off? Did you expect people to answer your question and then sit, staring at the screen, praying to Jesus that the "O high and mighty Max" would return? Pretty conceited it appears.

[silhouette2113]

Re: Why Jesus?

I must say, after reading this thread, I am quite appalled at the behavior of this forum's residents. While it is true, the thread starter may be viewed as misguided, I do not believe that this warrants such a blatant array of disrespectful "flaming". After all, isn't "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" a key verse in the bible? You ought be ashamed of thine unchristly actions.

Personally however, I find the thread-starters question to be interesting. He raises a good point. Why Jesus? While I do understand and recognize why he is our savior, can one explain to a non-believer specifically why Jesus instead of say, Allah?

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Re: Why Jesus?

After all, isn't "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" a key verse in the bible? You ought be ashamed of thine unchristly actions.

Yet ANOTHER person who misunderstands what Jesus taught! Yes he said love your neighbor....but what is a neighbor? A neighbor is a True Christian(tm). A godless heathen like yourself would not qualify as a neighbor, so the Bible does not require to love people like you. Simple as that.

IF YOU STUDIED THE BIBLE...you would see that the people on this forum are the most Christian people of them all since they follow ALL of the Bible not just some of it.

Take your hippie love Jesus flower child God someplace else please.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Why Jesus?

I must say, after reading this thread, I am quite appalled at the behavior of this forum's residents. While it is true, the thread starter may be viewed as misguided, I do not believe that this warrants such a blatant array of disrespectful "flaming". After all, isn't "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" a key verse in the bible? You ought be ashamed of thine unchristly actions.

Personally however, I find the thread-starters question to be interesting. He raises a good point. Why Jesus? While I do understand and recognize why he is our savior, can one explain to a non-believer specifically why Jesus instead of say, Allah?

Are all you idiot trolls the same person? I wouldn't doubt it, you all say the EXACT SAME THING!

Do me a favor. Search for "Thou shalt love thy neighbor" at Bible Gateway. Make sure you select the King James Bible for your search.

Come back and post again when you have the results.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why Jesus?

You want me to love him? I Sir, am no Homer. Just because you feel a tinge of magic, do not think for one moment you can draw me into you twisted tryst. I can assure you, he does not live next door to me, he is not my neighbor.

You second part is completely absurd. We have God, Jesus. As an infidel, you can believe in the false God of Allah if you have to though it ensures your place on earth as a heathen and a seat on the log flume ride to hell. Did you not even glance at the Bible on the table in the hourly motel?

[silhouette2113]

Re: Why Jesus?

No, we are actually not the same person. I have no idea who this "max henning" is, I'm just trying to look out for a person I see who is being unkindly treated.

Now, as to what you requested me to do, I did go to BG and search it. There were no responses.

http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=Thou+shalt+love+thy+neighbor&qs_version=9

That's the link if you would like to see for yourself.

And, to Mr. Hemholtz, even if what you say is true, (Which I can't see, Jesus preached love to all), then just because the bible may not REQUIRE you to do something, shouldn't you do it because it's just the right thing to do? I mean, take for example...breathing. Where in the bible does it say it's the required thing to do to breathe? It doesn't. Nevertheless, It's probably a good idea, no? Just like being nice to everyone.

[JennyD]

Re: Why Jesus?

Let me see what I can do to answer your many questions.

quick question, everyone hear refers to Jesus as if he is the best thing since washing machines, but how can Jesus' word be the only holy thing, when his teachings are based off the teachings and traditions of ancient Judaism?

Jesus is God. Christianity is His new covenant with Man.

The original covenant was, "follow My Laws from birth, or sacrifice animals for atonement, or go to Hell."

The new covenant is, "I came to Earth as a human and sacrificed Myself to Myself so if you ask, I can forgive all your sins without animal sacrifices. However, if you then continue to sin instead of truly repenting, to Hell with you!"

by that logic, that Jesus is the epitome of Holiness, then Judaism, from whence Jesus arose, must be honored above all else. in the same way that one honors ones' roots. Jesus' roots are in Judaism, so doesnt that make Judaism honored above jesus? since Jesus' teachings would be impossible without the backdrop of Judaism that formed his beliefs.

Wrong. Jesus is God. He came first, not Judaism.

moreover, out of simple curiosity, why is the Bible taken as word of law, sometimes out of context, and without the knowledge that it was written hundreds of thousands of years ago, with only minor adaptations?

The Bible was committed to parchment over only a few thousand years. The Earth has not existed for "hundreds of thousands of years", it was created 6,000 years ago.

However, it is often taken out of context or ignored by false Christians who choose their own "right and wrong" over God's Law. They will go to Hell.

is it not logical that some things are not applicable anymore, that the societies which spurred the writing of the bible may have been conducive to passages which to not apply to our current globalized society? in this way, should not any direct quote from the bible be taken with a grain of salt, because of the knowledge that some phrases/ideas/passages may simply be out of date?

If the Bible were the work of Man, I would agree.

However, the Bible is the word of God.

God is omniscient (all-knowing) and omnipotent (all-powerful). He created the entire universe, for crying out loud!

He knows exactly what His Book says. If He wanted to change it to say something different, He would do so.

It says what it says, which proves that it is exactly what God wants us to read.

Anything else?

[godisagirl]

Re: Why Jesus?

ha, "thy neighbor" has to be christian?
well sorry my friend, but that is not specified in the quotation, so i have to ask you to refrain from interpreting the bibles words with your unholy and inadequate brain. we must follow the words of god, you say. verbatim. and yet you proceed to interpret them for your own ends.

also, you said a neighbor must be one who is christian?
...catholics are christian...

i am new to this forum, and i am surprised by the treatment of other newcomers. people like myself who came here to find answers, not be manhandled by "followers of jesus" who breed hatred.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why Jesus?

Look again, young man. You are so quick to judge.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Why Jesus?

quick question, everyone hear refers to Jesus as if he is the best thing since washing machines, but how can Jesus' word be the only holy thing, when his teachings are based off the teachings and traditions of ancient Judaism?
by that logic, that Jesus is the epitome of Holiness, then Judaism, from whence Jesus arose, must be honored above all else. in the same way that one honors ones' roots. Jesus' roots are in Judaism, so doesnt that make Judaism honored above jesus? since Jesus' teachings would be impossible without the backdrop of Judaism that formed his beliefs.

moreover, out of simple curiosity, why is the Bible taken as word of law, sometimes out of context, and without the knowledge that it was written hundreds of thousands of years ago, with only minor adaptations? is it not logical that some things are not applicable anymore, that the societies which spurred the writing of the bible may have been conducive to passages which to not apply to our current globalized society? in this way, should not any direct quote from the bible be taken with a grain of salt, because of the knowledge that some phrases/ideas/passages may simply be out of date?

Quick question for you Max. Are you illiterate, retarded, or just plain lazy? An illiterate would not use his shift key because he didn't know any better. A retard has been cursed by God and has a feeble mind. Retardeds have terrible grammar and are prone to fits of rage.

No? You're not illiterate or a retarded? That just leaves lazy I guess. You know, when you are exchanging email with your homer atheist pals, I don't give a rats behind how you choose to communicate. But the is not some bathroom wall, this is a Christian Forum!

Show some danged respect boy! Use you PREVIEW button before you post! Why is it MY job to try to figure out what your trying to say with your slothful posting. And check the Bible pal, God is NOT a fan of slothful people!

Also, welcome to our forum. Have you posted an introduction thread yet?

[JennyD]

Re: Why Jesus?

And, to Mr. Hemholtz, even if what you say is true, (Which I can't see, Jesus preached love to all), then just because the bible may not REQUIRE you to do something, shouldn't you do it because it's just the right thing to do? I mean, take for example...breathing. Where in the bible does it say it's the required thing to do to breathe? It doesn't. Nevertheless, It's probably a good idea, no? Just like being nice to everyone.

That must be the single most idiotic thing I've seen posted on this forum all WEEK.

First, where did Jesus preach "love to all"? Scripture, please.

As for what is "required" to do to survive (breathe) is not the same as what is "the right thing to do".

GOD decides what is the right thing to do. He tells us in His Word what is right and what is wrong.