[James Peter]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

I'm not a heathen. Get a dictionary.

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Well, forgive me, but I happen to think you are just as guilty of treating the Bible as a buffet as these people. Throughout your posts I've seen you make such blasphemous and unscriptural assertions such as that God loves everybody and we shouldn't judge others. In my opinion, you are a very bad example for the unsaved to see of Catholicism. You should take care of the beam in your own eye before you start telling these Protestants about the speck in theirs.

Protestants? Those Euro-trash? Please, don't insult us like that.

You are just as bad. A heathen who insults a heathen is still just as damned.

[James Peter]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Your are quite right.... "Pearls before swine" as the people here put it. It saddens me that people like this actually exist in the world... And how they are so proud to be a part of it... Have they no conscience? Do they not see the harm they themselves do to Christianity? Claiming to have Biblical support, yet denying what they don't want to believe. To them, the Bible is like some sort of buffet, where they go through and pick out what they like and reject what they do not.
In all honesty, I never thought to reach the hardened anti-catholics here, my efforts are in hope that someone in doubt or sitting on the fence might see this.... I don't seek to bring these people that argue with me to Christ, rather I reach out to the hundreds of people that have read this post but remain silent, simply waiting to see who ends up on top. Maybe they will hear reason. Maybe they will accept all that Christ left us....
I fear that some here simply argue out of fear of being proved wrong....

Well, forgive me, but I happen to think you are just as guilty of treating the Bible as a buffet as these people. Throughout your posts I've seen you make such blasphemous and unscriptural assertions such as that God loves everybody and we shouldn't judge others. In my opinion, you are a very bad example for the unsaved to see of Catholicism. You should take care of the beam in your own eye before you start telling these Protestants about the speck in theirs.

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Under the appearance of bread and wine.

The Last Supper. Look it up....

Does Jesus Himself come and bless the wine and bread? Or just some boy-buggering pedo in a nice robe?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Your are quite right.... "Pearls before swine" as the people here put it. It saddens me that people like this actually exist in the world... And how they are so proud to be a part of it... Have they no conscience? Do they not see the harm they themselves do to Christianity? Claiming to have Biblical support, yet denying what they don't want to believe. To them, the Bible is like some sort of buffet, where they go through and pick out what they like and reject what they do not.
In all honesty, I never thought to reach the hardened anti-catholics here, my efforts are in hope that someone in doubt or sitting on the fence might see this.... I don't seek to bring these people that argue with me to Christ, rather I reach out to the hundreds of people that have read this post but remain silent, simply waiting to see who ends up on top. Maybe they will hear reason. Maybe they will accept all that Christ left us....
I fear that some here simply argue out of fear of being proved wrong....

That's rich coming from a representative of the world's biggest cult, who purposefully mangles God's Holy Word, who claims papal infallibility but then changes it's mind, who commits blasphemy like infant Baptism and Mary worship and idolatry...I could go on and on.

You people make Jesus sick.

[Catholic - Not Christian]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Nasty,to the piont of creapy .Eating flesh and drinking blood EWE

Under the appearance of bread and wine.

The Last Supper. Look it up....

[exMormon]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Shouldn't you be off kissing someone's ring or diddling some young boy?

[Catholic - Not Christian]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

They aren't ignorant. We've taught them all they need to know. They have no excuse. Jesus said whoever is not for Him is against Him. These people are not for Jesus' True Church™ so they are God's enemies. While I will pray that they be converted, as Jesus taught, I will also keep in mind God's warning to Jeremiah not to pray for God to stop the punishment of the wicked who deserve it.

Your are quite right.... "Pearls before swine" as the people here put it. It saddens me that people like this actually exist in the world... And how they are so proud to be a part of it... Have they no conscience? Do they not see the harm they themselves do to Christianity? Claiming to have Biblical support, yet denying what they don't want to believe. To them, the Bible is like some sort of buffet, where they go through and pick out what they like and reject what they do not.
In all honesty, I never thought to reach the hardened anti-catholics here, my efforts are in hope that someone in doubt or sitting on the fence might see this.... I don't seek to bring these people that argue with me to Christ, rather I reach out to the hundreds of people that have read this post but remain silent, simply waiting to see who ends up on top. Maybe they will hear reason. Maybe they will accept all that Christ left us....
I fear that some here simply argue out of fear of being proved wrong....

[TinyJay]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Nasty,to the piont of creapy .Eating flesh and drinking blood EWE

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Watch one of your ilk get schooled by a True Christian and convert to Christianity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kABNxkL5BpE

It's a very moving video. I cried the first time I saw it, because it just demonstrates how awesome the love of Jesus Christ is.

Hate to disagree, but I thought you claimed you made that video.

[James Peter]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

What defines an enemy of God? As these people here are not intentionally an enemy of the Lord. They believe they do right by all this. They are simply ignorant, waiting to be enlightened. And if we hate them, how could they ever possible come to the Father?

They aren't ignorant. We've taught them all they need to know. They have no excuse. Jesus said whoever is not for Him is against Him. These people are not for Jesus' True Church(tm) so they are God's enemies. While I will pray that they be converted, as Jesus taught, I will also keep in mind God's warning to Jeremiah not to pray for God to stop the punishment of the wicked who deserve it.

[exMormon]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Watch one of your ilk get schooled by a True Christian and convert to Christianity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kABNxkL5BpE

It's a very moving video. I cried the first time I saw it, because it just demonstrates how awesome the love of Jesus Christ is.

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

What defines an enemy of God? As these people here are not intentionally an enemy of the Lord. They believe they do right by all this. They are simply ignorant, waiting to be enlightened. And if we hate them, how could they ever possible come to the Father?

We follow the Word of the Lord. We have the scripture to back it up. If you choose what to follow and what to ignore, you are an agent of Satan.

[Catholic - Not Christian]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

Catholic, I have to disagree with you on one point. Don't love them. They don't deserve it. The Bible teaches us to hate God's enemies:

What defines an enemy of God? As these people here are not intentionally an enemy of the Lord. They believe they do right by all this. They are simply ignorant, waiting to be enlightened. And if we hate them, how could they ever possible come to the Father?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Catholic. Born, raised and proud

You love me, yet you find me intolerable at the same time?
"Sure I love my wife, but she's intolerable."
They cannot coexist. This is ridiculous. Surely you know that you achieve more with honey than vinegar?




Say for example you're walking around bringing Jesus and the Word to bunches of people in the middle-east. Then you come across this giant field full of heathens and heretics just blaspheming and shouting and raising hell.

So what do you do? Point and tell them they're going to hell and calling them hypocrites and saying they are "papist dogs", "pagan trolls", "ring-kissing teenagers" and "catylicks"? You show your love by offering them every indecency and disrespect you can muster? Then what? Come back the next day and expect them to listen to you and follow Christ when you, Christ's representative to them, showed them EXACTLY what you thought God's love was? They won't want any of it! They will reject you like a demon! Then they will turn to there brother heathens and FROM THEM they will receive love. And that is where they will stay, because they will not want your “love”.

You need to reflect on these words of Jesus.

John 7: 7The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

So the people that reject God do not have Him. Ok....



I do not welcome the Jehovah Witness that come to my door. I do not house them or bid them "God-Speed". However, I do not react with hate towards them, or they should react to me with hate. And nothing will be accomplished.

By letting them into your home, you support their endeavors to deceive, and thereby partake in their evil deeds. If you bid them “God-speed” (literally, “Good luck”) then you support their endeavors to deceive, and thereby partake in their evil deeds.

In no way does being friends with a “heathen” partake in their evil deeds or support it in any way. Rather, you all have twisted the meaning of this passage to be an excuse for this outlet of hate you call a website!



Love your neighbor as yourself. Simple. But further:

Romans 8: 35-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Nothing can separate us from God's love. Nothing. "For God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only son..." He loved the world. Not just his "favorites" here at landoverbaptist.net

It is our choice whether to accept that love or not. For God loves us so much that He will not force His love upon us, He asks only that we love Him in return. How do we do this? We follow his commandments.

Wrong, there is no free choice. God choose who He will love and who He will hate before we are born.



Romans 9: 11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

Through this, you imply first that God does not love his own creations; that things actually exist that God does not love. If God hated something, why would he not destroy it? Why is it even in existence to begin with?

Explained in detail in the verse above, (especially verse 22) but anyway, here are some verses that show God hates.

John 3: 36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Psalm 11: 5The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Leviticus 20: 23And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Proverbs 6:16These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Hosea 9: 15All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Secondly, you imply that we must “earn” God’s love. Do you really think that God created us as children, giving us life and free-will, but did not love us at that time? Do you really think that we must “earn” his love by becoming a “true Christian”?

Actually, Catholics are the ones who believe in salvation through works, not us.

If so, and you believe that God’s love must be earned, do you think that “accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior” to be enough? Is that we get to be “loved” by God?

God chooses who He loves. We have no choice in the matter.

I said nothing of hell. For those in hell are cut off from God. Furthermore, God does not “send” people to hell. By sinning we turn our back on God and cut ourselves off from his Love. If we go to hell, we have no one to blame but ourselves. For God’s love is ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE, we must simply accept it through repentance.

No, God sends people to Hell. He damns them there.

Matthew 23:14
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Mark 3:29
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Romans 13:2
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

2 Thessalonians 2:12
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2 Peter 2:3
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.