[Meek and Humble]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

No that was probably added later because Jesus(pbuh) has said:

"Thereupon she pointed to him. They said, 'How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?' Jesus said, 'I am a servant of ALLAH. HE has given me the Book, and has made me a Prophet; 'And HE has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live; 'And HE has made me dutiful towards my mother, and has not made me arrogant and graceless; 'And peace was on me the day I was born, and peace will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.' That was Jesus, son of Mary. This is a statement of the truth concerning which they entertain doubt."—Qur'an, Surah 19:30-35

It was "added later"...

yet the Gospels were written a good 600 years before the Koran.

Fascinating.

[TruePath]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

It was "added later"...

yet the Gospels were written a good 600 years before the Koran.

Fascinating.

The proof is very easy.

If the gospels had not been altered and changed there would not have been a need for God to send the Noble Qu'ran to correct us.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

Yes, of course it probably would have been smarter of God to send it to the poor Christians reading the altered gospels unknowingly, instead of to heathen Arabs...

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

If the gospels had not been altered and changed there would not have been a need for God to send the Noble Qu'ran to correct us.

Hey, that's exactly what those two mormon teenagers kept saying to me last summer, about their book of mormon!

I saw an add for a free KJV online and thought, hey who can't use another KJV? And the little demons that delivered it brought along the message that I was an apostate!

The angel mormoni gave his message to some polygamist in Utah because we all lost our way somewhere I guess, and now we're supposed to believe in mormonism. Yeah, I'm convinced.

And the mormons want multiple wives, and think children make good wives.

Hmmm. Just like Mowhammid.

I'm seeing a pattern here.

It's about the children right?

Satan wants us to defile the children! So he sends papists to defile the boys, and mormons and mooslims to defile the girls!

GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN!

[TruePath]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

Yes, of course it probably would have been smarter of God to send it to the poor Christians reading the altered gospels unknowingly, instead of to heathen Arabs...

But God said he would bring the truth out at Paran (a mount near Mekka where The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) received his revelations of the Noble Qu'ran) and it is in YOUR BIBLE!

Habbakuk 3:3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

Who is praised all around the earth? The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) of course.

[ClarificatiOnDarwin]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

Those comments are very disrespectful Pastor, especially the ones about suicide bomber school. Please refrain from such ignorant comments. If you have a genuine desire to learn about anthers culture, do so in a respectful way.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

Those comments are very disrespectful Pastor, especially the ones about suicide bomber school. Please refrain from such ignorant comments. If you have a genuine desire to learn about anthers culture, do so in a respectful way.

Nobody has a genuine desire to learn about other cultures on here. We already know all we need to know - they are all headed to the fiery pits of hell - HALLELUJAH!

As for YOU, take your own advice, CHRISTOPHOBE!

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

But God said he would bring the truth out at Paran (a mount near Mekka where The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) received his revelations of the Noble Qu'ran) and it is in YOUR BIBLE!

Habbakuk 3:3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

Who is praised all around the earth? The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) of course.

Right. The Bible is corrupt when it says what you don't like, but perfect when you (falsely) claim it suits your beliefs.

http://www.muslimhope.com/BibleAnswers/hab.htm

Q: In Hab 3:3, how did the omnipresent God come from Teman?
A: Even though God is everywhere, God can still have a localized presence. After all, Jesus was in one place at one time. God also appeared to Moses in a burning bush, which was in one place. God’s coming from Teman likely refers to a part of the Second Coming of Christ. See also When Critics Ask p.315,36 and the Wycliffe Bible Dictionary p.1247 for more info.

Q: In Hab 3:3, where is Teman?
A: In Edom, just across the Dead Sea and a little south of Judah. Ezekiel 25:13, Amos 1:12, and Obadiah 8-9 mention Teman as a part of Edom. Jeremiah 49:7,20 poetically uses Teman as a synonym for Edom. Teman was named after a chief of Edom and a grandson of Esau named Teman (Genesis 36:11,15,42 and 1 Chronicles 1:36,53). Eliphaz, in Job was a Temanite, and 1 Chronicles 1:45 says the Temanites were descendants of Esau. See also the next question.

Q: In Hab 3:3, could this be a prediction of Mohammed, as some Muslims claim?
A: Only Ghulat Muslims should think so, since this verse talks of "God", not "Mohammed". Some Ghulat Muslim sects do believe Mohammed is God, though that is heresy to Sunni Muslim ears. However, if any Sunni Muslims themselves really took this question seriously, they would have to believe Mohammed is God too, since "God came from Teman".
Other reasons this cannot refer to Mohammed, is that "His praise" does not refer to Mohammed, since the praise is for God." Mount Paran is where the Israelites camped, and far from Mecca. When Cultists Ask p.89 gives essentially the same answer. See the next question and When Critics Ask p.315 for more info.
Finally, some Muslims apparently are concerned to find more continuity between Mohammed and the Bible, just as there is continuity between Jesus and the promised Messiah of the Old Testament. However, some Muslims look for it in the unlikeliest of places, Habakkuk 3:3, since they cannot find any true continuity elsewhere.

Q: In Hab 3:3 and Dt 1:1, is Mount Paran really Mecca, as some Muslims claim?
A: No, for Paran was directly east of the Sinai Peninsula. Ishmael originally lived in the wilderness of Paran in Genesis 21:21, but his descendants were apparently not there anymore when the Israelites came. Deuteronomy 1:1-2 says the Israelites camped on the plain near Paran. It was eleven days journey for them from Mount Horeb. They spent a lot of time in Paran, as Numbers 10:12, 12:16; 13:3, and Deuteronomy 33:2 show. Numbers 13:26 shows that Kadesh, which is in the far south of Israel, is in the wilderness of Paran. David went to Paran in 1 Samuel 25:1. Hadad the Edomite fled from Edom to Egypt by way of Paran in 1 Kings 11:18.
In summary, Paran was eleven days from Mount Horeb, Kadesh was in Paran, and Paran was the place where the Israelites camped and sent spies into Canaan.

Q: In Hab 3:3-15, what time period is this talking about?
A: Most interpret this to refer to the triumphal return of Christ in Revelation 19:11-21 or possibly Revelation 20:7-9.

[Ugly_Kid_Joe]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

I nearly got a heart attack. Islam, the only true religion??? What kind of demon are we dealing with here!?

[TruePath]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

I nearly got a heart attack. Islam, the only true religion??? What kind of demon are we dealing with here!?

In Arabic (the language of Heaven) the prefix "mu-" means "one who ..."

Islam means "to submit".

So "Muslim" means one who submits, to God's Will.

So, ALL prophets God has sent including Adam(pbuh), Moses(pbuh), David(pbuh), Jesus(pbuh), Muhammad(pbuh) were Muslims.

So as you see, Islam is the One True Religion.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

Adam was a prophet was he?

He must have had a very limited audience to preach to.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

Who is praised all around the earth? The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) of course.

That's a filthy lie. He's praised in a few sandy hellholes we haven't got around to nuking yet, and reviled in every single country that knows what toilet paper is.

Those comments are very disrespectful Pastor, especially the ones about suicide bomber school. Please refrain from such ignorant comments. If you have a genuine desire to learn about anthers culture, do so in a respectful way.

I'll stop disrespecting Islam when... no, wait, that's obviously untrue, I'll never stop disrespecting Islam. Why, the very idea of being respectful to that paedophile mooncult! You might as well be "respectful" to a slug or a mongoloid or something like that.

So, ALL prophets God has sent including Adam(pbuh), Moses(pbuh), David(pbuh), Jesus(pbuh), Muhammad(pbuh) were Muslims.

Oh really? Why can't I remember anything about Adam being a paedophile, David praying to the moon or Jesus trying to ride an explosive camel into the Bethlehem Trade Centre, then?

[Aristotle]

lewd women

Peace be upon those who follow the true path.

Jesus (pbuh) is a great prophet who we respect and admire. So yes I have already found Jesus (pbuh).

As for the Qu'ran, it is to be treated with respect at all times as it is the eternal and unchanged and unaltered word of the one true Lord our God, the same God we all worship, the God of Abraham(pbuh) and Jesus(pbuh) and Muhammad(pbuh).

So in a sense we all worship the same God.

So tell me please friends, which version of the Bible do you read?

Nothing personal, but Mr. Aleikum, you are going to Hell because you were born in a Muslim land and learned the wrong religion. However, you Mohammedans do have some good ideas. like how to handle lewd women.

"As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them"

[Noah Dint]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

In Arabic (the language of Heaven) the prefix "mu-" means "one who ..."

Islam means "to submit".

So "Muslim" means one who submits, to God's Will.

So, ALL prophets God has sent including Adam(pbuh), Moses(pbuh), David(pbuh), Jesus(pbuh), Muhammad(pbuh) were Muslims.

So as you see, Islam is the One True Religion.

Blasphemer!
How dare YOU come HERE to tell us that we are wrong!
~How DARE you!~

You sir are going to Hell. Period. You will have the skin torn from your flesh and be eternally raped by Satan's minions. Why do you come here playing the part of a FALSE PROPHET?

You claim to be right. But JESUS says you are wrong:

Jeremiah 14: 14-15
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

Everyone here has been very polite and tolerant of you. I will not be so kind sir.

You are wrong.
You are damned to Hell for eternity.
You prove how stupid you are with your writing.

Be gone. Before somebody drops a house on you!

-ND

[Mr Holyfire]

Re: Selam'un Al'eykum

Blasphemer!
How dare YOU come HERE to tell us that we are wrong!
~How DARE you!~

You sir are going to Hell. Period. You will have the skin torn from your flesh and be eternally raped by Satan's minions. Why do you come here playing the part of a FALSE PROPHET?

You claim to be right. But JESUS says you are wrong:

Jeremiah 14: 14-15
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

Everyone here has been very polite and tolerant of you. I will not be so kind sir.

You are wrong.
You are damned to Hell for eternity.
You prove how stupid you are with your writing.

Be gone. Before somebody drops a house on you!

-ND

Now Brother; that is some good rebuking