[TheManglerOfWords]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

If you believe God possibly started the big bang and so created the Universe, why couldn't you believe that the purpose of life is to follow His words?

Let me anwser you question with a counter question... If God created me, and he loves me, why does he give me the free will to oppse him? Cranky old man... You can anwser this as well... You wanted to know about my questions... Heres one

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

You anwsered my question by telling me to try throwing myself infront of a car... That's why I meant it wasn't polite...

Ah I see. Please note I don't recommend it, but it was the answer to your question.

[johncarlos]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

Let me anwser you question with a counter question... If God created me, and he loves me, why does he give me the free will to oppse him? Cranky old man... You can anwser this as well... You wanted to know about my questions... Heres one

So He can decide if you're worthy of going to Heaven.

[Something_Rotten]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

Anarchy (from Greek: ἀναρχίᾱ anarchíā, "without ruler") may refer to any of the following:

• "No rulership or enforced authority."[1]
• "Absence of government; a state of lawlessness due to the absence or inefficiency of the supreme power; political disorder."[2]
• "A social state in which there is no governing person or group of people, but each individual has absolute liberty (without the implication of disorder)."[3]
• "Absence or non-recognition of authority and order in any given sphere."[4]
• "Act[ing] without waiting for instructions or official permission... The root of anarchism is the single impulse to do it yourself: everything else follows from this." [5]

Communism is a social structure in which classes are abolished and property is commonly controlled, as well as a political philosophy and social movement that advocates and aims to create such a society.[1] Karl Marx, the father of communist thought, posited that communism would be the final stage in society, which would be achieved through a proletarian revolution and only possible after a socialist stage develops the productive forces, leading to a superabundance of goods and services.[2][3]


These two things (in their purest form, not social anarchy) has absolutely NOTHING in common...


as Anarchy means lawless...


and Communism is an Ideology with a social structure and rules...



so no my friend... they have NOTHING in common...


Social Anarchism is another thing...
It dosen't even have a wiki page... 0.o

[TheManglerOfWords]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

So He can decide if you're worthy of going to Heaven.

But if he's allmighy, why doesn't he just make me worthy? Make me follow his ways. I'm not talking about forcing me to be worthy, but to create me like that...

[johncarlos]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

Anarchy (from Greek: ἀναρχίᾱ anarchíā, "without ruler") may refer to any of the following:

• "No rulership or enforced authority."[1]
• "Absence of government; a state of lawlessness due to the absence or inefficiency of the supreme power; political disorder."[2]
• "A social state in which there is no governing person or group of people, but each individual has absolute liberty (without the implication of disorder)."[3]
• "Absence or non-recognition of authority and order in any given sphere."[4]
• "Act[ing] without waiting for instructions or official permission... The root of anarchism is the single impulse to do it yourself: everything else follows from this." [5]

Communism is a social structure in which classes are abolished and property is commonly controlled, as well as a political philosophy and social movement that advocates and aims to create such a society.[1] Karl Marx, the father of communist thought, posited that communism would be the final stage in society, which would be achieved through a proletarian revolution and only possible after a socialist stage develops the productive forces, leading to a superabundance of goods and services.[2][3]


These two things (in their purest form, not social anarchy) has absolutely NOTHING in common...


as Anarchy means lawless...


and Communism is an Ideology with a social structure and rules...



so no my friend... they have NOTHING in common...


Social Anarchism is another thing...
It dosen't even have a wiki page... 0.o

Socialist anarchism is the largest school of anarchism. In contrast with most forms of individualist anarchism, which stresses the importance of private property or possession, socialist anarchism rejects private property, seeing it as a source of social inequality, and emphasises cooperation and mutual aid.[99]
Collectivist anarchism, also referred to as "revolutionary socialism" or a form of such,[100][101] is a revolutionary form of anarchism, commonly associated with Mikhail Bakunin and Johann Most.[102][103] Collectivist anarchists oppose all private ownership of the means of production, instead advocating that ownership be collectivised. This was to be achieved through violent revolution, first starting with a small cohesive group through acts of violence, or "propaganda by the deed," which would inspire the workers as a whole to revolt and forcibly collectivise the means of production.[102] However, collectivization was not to be extended to the distribution of income, as workers would be paid according to time worked, rather than receiving goods being distributed "according to need" as in anarcho-communism. This position was criticised by anarchist communists as effectively "uphold[ing] the wages system".[104] Collectivist anarchism arose contemporaneously with Marxism but opposed the Marxist dictatorship of the proletariat, despite the stated Marxist goal of a collectivist stateless society.[105] Anarchist communist and collectivist ideas are not mutually exclusive; although the collectivist anarchists advocated compensation for labour, some held out the possibility of a post-revolutionary transition to a communist system of distribution according to need.[106]
Anarchist communism proposes that the freest form of social organisation would be a society composed of self-managing communes with collective use of the means of production, organised democratically, and related to other communes through federation.[107] While some anarchist communists favour direct democracy, others feel that its majoritarianism can impede individual liberty and favour consensus democracy instead. In anarchist communism, as money would be abolished, individuals would not receive direct compensation for labour (through sharing of profits or payment) but would have free access to the resources and surplus of the commune.[108][109] Anarchist communism does not always have a communitarian philosophy. Some forms of anarchist communism are egoist and strongly influenced by radical individualism,[110] believing that anarchist communism does not require a communitarian nature at all.
In the early 20th century, anarcho-syndicalism arose as a distinct school of thought within anarchism.[111] With greater focus on the labour movement than previous forms of anarchism, syndicalism posits radical trade unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the state with a new society, democratically self-managed by the workers. It is often combined with other branches of anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalists often subscribe to anarchist communist or collectivist anarchist economic systems.[112] An early leading anarcho-syndicalist thinker was Rudolf Rocker, whose 1938 pamphlet Anarchosyndicalism outlined a view of the movement's origin, aims and importance to the future of labour.[112][113]

It does have an wiki page..go look for it

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

But if he's allmighy, why doesn't he just make me worthy? Make me follow his ways. I'm not talking about forcing me to be worthy, but to create me like that...

He could have chosen to give it all away. But He did not. He wants you to really earn your place in Heaven.

[johncarlos]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

But if he's allmighy, why doesn't he just make me worthy? Make me follow his ways. I'm not talking about forcing me to be worthy, but to create me like that...

If He would do that, what knowledge would you gain from life? Following a script wouldn't grant you any kind of wisdom...

God loves you, so He want's you to learn, He wants you to grow as man and as a person, and He does that by giving you free will.

[TheManglerOfWords]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

I see...
But (I'm sure you get this alot, but please take it seriously) if he forgives everything, wouldn't he forgive me for not beliving in him?

[Something_Rotten]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

Socialist anarchism is the largest school of anarchism. In contrast with most forms of individualist anarchism, which stresses the importance of private property or possession, socialist anarchism rejects private property, seeing it as a source of social inequality, and emphasises cooperation and mutual aid.[99]
Collectivist anarchism, also referred to as "revolutionary socialism" or a form of such,[100][101] is a revolutionary form of anarchism, commonly associated with Mikhail Bakunin and Johann Most.[102][103] Collectivist anarchists oppose all private ownership of the means of production, instead advocating that ownership be collectivised. This was to be achieved through violent revolution, first starting with a small cohesive group through acts of violence, or "propaganda by the deed," which would inspire the workers as a whole to revolt and forcibly collectivise the means of production.[102] However, collectivization was not to be extended to the distribution of income, as workers would be paid according to time worked, rather than receiving goods being distributed "according to need" as in anarcho-communism. This position was criticised by anarchist communists as effectively "uphold[ing] the wages system".[104] Collectivist anarchism arose contemporaneously with Marxism but opposed the Marxist dictatorship of the proletariat, despite the stated Marxist goal of a collectivist stateless society.[105] Anarchist communist and collectivist ideas are not mutually exclusive; although the collectivist anarchists advocated compensation for labour, some held out the possibility of a post-revolutionary transition to a communist system of distribution according to need.[106]
Anarchist communism proposes that the freest form of social organisation would be a society composed of self-managing communes with collective use of the means of production, organised democratically, and related to other communes through federation.[107] While some anarchist communists favour direct democracy, others feel that its majoritarianism can impede individual liberty and favour consensus democracy instead. In anarchist communism, as money would be abolished, individuals would not receive direct compensation for labour (through sharing of profits or payment) but would have free access to the resources and surplus of the commune.[108][109] Anarchist communism does not always have a communitarian philosophy. Some forms of anarchist communism are egoist and strongly influenced by radical individualism,[110] believing that anarchist communism does not require a communitarian nature at all.
In the early 20th century, anarcho-syndicalism arose as a distinct school of thought within anarchism.[111] With greater focus on the labour movement than previous forms of anarchism, syndicalism posits radical trade unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the state with a new society, democratically self-managed by the workers. It is often combined with other branches of anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalists often subscribe to anarchist communist or collectivist anarchist economic systems.[112] An early leading anarcho-syndicalist thinker was Rudolf Rocker, whose 1938 pamphlet Anarchosyndicalism outlined a view of the movement's origin, aims and importance to the future of labour.[112][113]

It does have a wiki page..go look for it

Right... Guess I didn't look hard enough ><

But well... my point still stands...

[johncarlos]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

I see...
But (I'm sure you get this alot, but please take it seriously) if he forgives everything, wouldn't he forgive me for not beliving in him?

According to the Bible, God does not just forgive everybody.

The Bible says things like "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness," (1 Jn 1:9)

and

"if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." (Matt 6:15)

Acts 10:43 says "All the prophets testify about him [Jesus] that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

Forgiveness is also bundled with "repentence" in many verses.

Based on these and many similar verses, I conclude that the presumption in your question is in error. People go to Hell because they were not forgiven. God does not automatically forgive all sins.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

But (I'm sure you get this alot, but please take it seriously) if he forgives everything, wouldn't he forgive me for not beliving in him?

No he does not. He only forgives those who pray to Him for forgiveness and follow the Holy Bible. You have to earn access to Heaven. God will not give it to you for free.

[TheManglerOfWords]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

He could have chosen to give it all away. But He did not. He wants you to really earn your place in Heaven.

If He would do that, what knowledge would you gain from life? Following a script wouldn't grant you any kind of wisdom...

God loves you, so He want's you to learn, He wants you to grow as man and as a person, and He does that by giving you free will.

According to the Bible, God does not just forgive everybody.

The Bible says things like "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness," (1 Jn 1:9)

and

"if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." (Matt 6:15)

Acts 10:43 says "All the prophets testify about him [Jesus] that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

Forgiveness is also bundled with "repentence" in many verses.

Based on these and many similar verses, I conclude that the presumption in your question is in error. People go to Hell because they were not forgiven. God does not automatically forgive all sins.

Well.. I don't confess but I'm doing everything I can to be a good person, surely I sin once I a while, but I trust that God will see it in the big picture... So as long theres more "good deeds" than "bad deeds" I trust him to see that I've been good.

[Something_Rotten]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

Don't you people have any opinions of your own?
Why do you need to citate bible verses all the time...

It's like your slaves to God... (and I'm 100% sure that wasen't intended)

Create your own opinions!
Like i said earlier... take your noses out of the book just for once...

[johncarlos]

Re: TheHandlerOfWords says hello to everyone.

Don't you people have any opinions of your own?
Why do you need to citate bible verses all the time...

It's like your slaves to God... (and I'm 100% sure that wasen't intended)

Create your own opinions!
Like i said earlier... take your noses out of the book just for once...

Well, no one is forcing you to read what people write in the forum!