i judge not..do you?

[amie-81]

I just came to this website on a friend's recommendation. He told me he could not believe some of the filth so called christians were spewing. I came...and I was appalled. I just posted a few responses to some threads stating how Jesus said do not judge, how He loved everyone- even the adulterous woman....how Jesus does not find joy in people going to hell. And what did I receive? A label as 'unsaved' trash...and a not so friendly message from Pastor Ezekial calling me a sassy mouth feminazi b*tch and that I had demons in my rectum and was going to hell and i was not welcome here.

I am a christian...are you all? REALLY? Who are you to say where someone will spend eternity? Are you Jesus? No you are not. I see us all equal, I am not a white supremist like some here. Do you really think Jesus denies people acceptance into heaven just based on their skin color or ethnicity? No, he does not. He judges people on if they accept Him or not. I was told you all follow the bible to the TEE. Is that so? What about the thou shall not judge part? Or do you chose and pick which scriptures you like the most? Unfortunately- you and the Westboro Baptist people give christians a bad rep and no wonder more souls are not being won to Christ. What kind of light do you all shine that people would want a part of? Jesus told us to go out and speak of His love...he did not say "i only love white americans- go tell everyone else they are going to hell". And pastor ezekial sent me a message i was not welcome...but yet on the front of this page it says in big letters: Unsaved welcome
And yet...I am saved!!!! I think I must feel the Holy Spirit more than some of you, or else you all could not personally spew so much hate if you had THAT kind of Love with you always. How can you hate when the Holy Spirit dwells in you? And the first time someone does not kiss your butt and agree with your hypocrisy and hate- you label them and ban them. Do you not know how to debate or even talk about differences of opinion?

This pastor is really not an example of Christ's love. I would leave my church immediately if my pastor spoke to anyone in this manor. I really do hope you all reflect on your words and actions and see how they affect others. Are you really living a Christ like life?

[amie-81]

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also you all seem to think only you guys are saved..and that God does not love those of different races? What about the famous verse John 3:16? For God so loved the WORLD.....not just America, not just whites.....
And guess what? I am american and white- so don't say I am black or chinese or whatever. I just think God loves us all. Pastor Ezekial...you have this big long list in your signature line of who Jesus damns, it would be shorter to say who He died on the cross for: EVERYONE

[amie-81]

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Also...no one answered me before in one of the other threads. One of you have been quoted many times as saying "Jesus and I can't wait to see you burn in hell". That seems very UN-Jesus like. DO you have scripture to back up that Jesus actually would enjoy seeing people go to hell or be unsaved?

[Bob4God]

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So far the only verse I see you actually quoting from the Bible is John 3:16.

Everybody knows John 3:16.

So first of all, GOD is not the lovey-dovey hippie that you paint Him as.

Do you know the verses where GOD commands us to kill disobedient children? (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

Do you know the verses where GOD commands us to kill the homosexuals? (Leviticus 20:13)

How about killing witches? (Exodus 22:18)

What about when GOD destroyed the entire world with water except Noah and his family? You can read about it in Genesis, and see how GOD drowned all the men, women, and children (including the unborn) and animals.

What about when GOD slayed the firstborn sons of Egypt (including the firstborn of the animals) because Pharaoh refused to believe in Him? (Exodus 11:5)

Now, we can clearly see that GOD rather enjoys killing. Why shouldn't He? It is His right. Genesis 8:21 tells us that GOD quite enjoys the smell of roasting flesh. It is a "sweet savor" to Him. This particular incident was right after GOD killed everybody in the flood, and Noah burnt an offering to Him. The smell pleased GOD so much, it made Him calm down and promise never to drown the entire world ever again.

Imagine how much mellower GOD will be after He damns most of the Earth to hell, and we all have an eternity to sit in Heaven sniffing up that sweet savor! That's why it's Heaven, shout GLORY TO GOD!

As far as judging goes, that topic has been thoroughly covered here. I suggest you use the search button young lady.

[amie-81]

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So far the only verse I see you actually quoting from the Bible is John 3:16.

Everybody knows John 3:16.

So first of all, GOD is not the lovey-dovey hippie that you paint Him as.

Do you know the verses where GOD commands us to kill disobedient children? (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

Do you know the verses where GOD commands us to kill the homosexuals? (Leviticus 20:13)

How about killing witches? (Exodus 22:18)

What about when GOD destroyed the entire world with water except Noah and his family? You can read about it in Genesis, and see how GOD drowned all the men, women, and children (including the unborn) and animals.

What about when GOD slayed the firstborn sons of Egypt (including the firstborn of the animals) because Pharaoh refused to believe in Him? (Exodus 11:5)

Now, we can clearly see that GOD rather enjoys killing. Why shouldn't He? It is His right. Genesis 8:21 tells us that GOD quite enjoys the smell of roasting flesh. It is a "sweet savor" to Him. This particular incident was right after GOD killed everybody in the floor, and Noah burnt an offering to Him. The smell pleased GOD so much, it made Him calm down and promise never to drown the entire world ever again.

Imagine how much mellower GOD will be after He damns most of the Earth to hell, and we all have an eternity to sit in Heaven sniffing up that sweet savor! That's why it's Heaven, shout GLORY TO GOD!

As far as judging goes, that topic has been thoroughly covered here. I suggest you use the search button young lady.

your signature quotes he without sin.....are you one of the sinless? i thought that was only Jesus? And you do understand all those verses you quoted were the LAW that Jesus' death on the cross attoned for? Have you not read that we are no longer under the law becuase we have a new blood sacrifice: Jesus? I don't think God is the hippy you think I THINK he is, I know he is a just God. But did He not send his Son to save us? That whosoever would call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved?

[Bob4God]

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your signature quotes he without sin.....are you one of the sinless? i thought that was only Jesus?

Why are you so confused? Of course we are without sin! We are washed in CHRIST's blood! What is the point of getting saved if it means we still go on as sinners?

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.-1 John 3:6

And you do understand all those verses you quoted were the LAW that Jesus' death on the cross attoned for? Have you not read that we are no longer under the law becuase we have a new blood sacrifice: Jesus?

Where in the Bible does it say that we are no longer under GOD's laws?

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.-Hebrews 13:8

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.-Matthew 5:18

I don't think God is the hippy you think I THINK he is, I know he is a just God. But did He not send his Son to save us? That whosoever would call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved?

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.-Matthew 7:21

[amie-81]

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Why are you so confused? Of course we are without sin! We are washed in CHRIST's blood! What is the point of getting saved if it means we still go on as sinners?

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.-1 John 3:6

Where in the Bible does it say that we are no longer under GOD's laws?

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.-Hebrews 13:8

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.-Matthew 5:18

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.-Matthew 7:21

So by saying you are sinless...you are blasphemying Jesus's life on Earth. As it is said He will be the only sinless man. We are all sinners (even us saved) but we are forgiven. (We are all but filthy rags....) Jesus said "behold you are a new creature, old things are perished....." meaning the Law. Are you saying you all do the will of God by hating people of different race backgrounds? For saying you will enjoy seeing them in a firey hell? Are you following the verse: "let your light so shine before men so that they may see your good works and glorify the Father which is in heaven'? I don't see much light from a lot of you. If you all were the only 'christians' i had ever met, then I would not want to accept Jesus at all! Who would want to act like you all?! I am glad I found Jesus 15 years ago and I am glad He helped me see that we are servents and should be servents to each other. He wo is least among you shall be first in heaven.......

[Bob4God]

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So by saying you are sinless...you are blasphemying Jesus's life on Earth. As it is said He will be the only sinless man. We are all sinners (even us saved) but we are forgiven. (We are all but filthy rags....) Jesus said "behold you are a new creature, old things are perished....." meaning the Law.

Well this just isn't making any sense.

First you say that JESUS' death nailed the Old Law to the cross. Now you are twisting scripture to say that once we are saved, the Old Law is no longer applicable. Does that not mean then that the Old Law is applicable to those who have not been saved yet? Therefore, we should still kill the sinners, because the Old Testament does apply to them. That is where your logic is headed, and JESUS still wins.

Are you saying you all do the will of God by hating people of different race backgrounds?

Where do you get that? Who here has said they hate members of other inferior races?

For saying you will enjoy seeing them in a firey hell? Are you following the verse: "let your light so shine before men so that they may see your good works and glorify the Father which is in heaven'?

Absolutely. It is GOD Himself who will sling these people into the bowels of Hell. There is no shame in that. Quit trying to make it look like it should be embarrassing to admit GOD is going to damn millions.

I don't see much light from a lot of you. If you all were the only 'christians' i had ever met, then I would not want to accept Jesus at all! Who would want to act like you all?! I am glad I found Jesus 15 years ago and I am glad He helped me see that we are servents and should be servents to each other. He wo is least among you shall be first in heaven.......

What are you looking for? If you are bothered by pillaging, genocide, damnation and judgment, try one of those frilly religions like Buddhism or Wicca.

As for us, we will continue to serve the LORD of the Bible, the TRUE GOD who sends bears to maul children who mock us. (2 Kings 2:23)

[Mrs. Rogers]

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So by saying you are sinless...you are blasphemying Jesus's life on Earth. As it is said He will be the only sinless man. We are all sinners (even us saved) but we are forgiven. (We are all but filthy rags....) Jesus said "behold you are a new creature, old things are perished....." meaning the Law.

As you must have missed it, I'll repost the verse B4G posted for you:

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.- Matthew 5:18

[Levi Jones]

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So by saying you are sinless...you are blasphemying Jesus's life on Earth. As it is said He will be the only sinless man.

Where in your Bible does it say only Jesus was sinless?

Genesis 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Deuteronomy 18:13
Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

Psalms 119:1
Blessed are the undefiled (tamiym/perfect) in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

Ezekiel 28:15
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Who doesn't know what the Bible says?

We are all sinners (even us saved) but we are forgiven. (We are all but filthy rags....)

Filthy rags...
That's from Isaiah. Didn't you just attack the Old Testament?

Jesus said "behold you are a new creature, old things are perished....." meaning the Law.

Bzzzzt... Brother Bob already showed you specifically where Jesus says the Old Testament still applies.
May I share one more with you?

Luke 16:17
And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

If the OT doesn't still apply, why even bother publishing it anymore? It seems we could save massive costs on paper by getting rid of 2/3rds of the Book, because they are "worthless parts."

Are you saying you all do the will of God by hating people of different race backgrounds?

We do not hate people of different races. God wants them all to be saved.
I don't understand where this ignorant misconception comes from.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Are you following the verse: "let your light so shine before men so that they may see your good works and glorify the Father which is in heaven'?

Are you following?

Matthew 6:2-3
Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

I don't see much light from a lot of you.

The feeling is mutual, Salad Bar Christian.

If you all were the only 'christians' i had ever met, then I would not want to accept Jesus at all! Who would want to act like you all?!

I'm sorry to break it to you, but the entire Bible can be difficult for fluffy bunny Christians to stomach.

I am glad I found Jesus 15 years ago and I am glad He helped me see that we are servents and should be servents to each other. He wo is least among you shall be first in heaven.......

1 Corinthians 6:2
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

We do love you. We want to see you acknowledge God for his whole self. Not just the parts you deem to be relevant.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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You need to take a look at my sermon on the subject HERE. God commands us to judge, under certain circumstances.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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If you all were the only 'christians' i had ever met, then I would not want to accept Jesus at all!

If you were the only "Christian" I had ever met, I would conclude that Christians reject all of the Bible except a few cherry-picked feel-good verses.