Hello

[uFFr19]

So before you say anything, i do not wanna disrespect any of you guys in any way.


So, im a normal person, im 19 years old, i like playing guitar and singing, i currently live in mexico and i have a stable job as a customer service representative, i go to school and like playing videogames

Unlike many if not all of you i was raised in a different way, i was never taught that there was a greater someone, i had the choice to either believe or not

I myself being a kid didn't mind it at all, i just lived my life normally as a kid, no church, no praying none of that


It just came to my mind, what makes you believe? Why even mind it? theres a lot of bad stuff going on right now, specially in this particular area of the world, people getting killed for all sorts of things.


Now i myself, i just think that if theres a reason to why all of this is happening, i'd rather not knowing why it is the way it is, as bad things happen good things happen aswell

so my question to you is, what makes you think theres a god, what would you say that could make ME believe theres a god and why even bother, even if there was a god how can you know if theres a heaven, if heaven does exist then how can you be sure that you are doing the right thing, that following your doctrine makes you right, what if theres something else that you don't know of?

[uFFr19]

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Also, i just noticed next to my username it says "Unsaved trash" just fyi, that's not a good way to label people

[Levi Jones]

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,what would you say that could make ME believe theres a god

We can't make you believe anything under the current laws.

But according to the Bible, we should kill non-believers.

Deuteronomy 17:3, 5
And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Our God commands whole cities should be destroyed if they don't follow Him!

Mark 6:11
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

and why even bother,

You make a decent point. Our God kicks yours behind 40x over, infidel dog!

[Cranky Old Man]

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So before you say anything, i do not wanna disrespect any of you guys in any way.

I am glad to hear that!

I myself being a kid didn't mind it at all, i just lived my life normally as a kid, no church, no praying none of that

No praying and no Church is not a normal life!

what would you say that could make ME believe theres a god

We humble people have limited capabilities. If you really read the entire KJV1611 Holy Bible you will notice it is so perfect, so extremely consistent, so crystal clear, that no ordinary person could ever have created it. So the sheer quality of the book proves that it is created by someone with capabilities far beyond that of a human being.

Since the Holy Bible clearly could not have been written by a mere mortal and also clearly states to be the word of God: 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" logic dictates there can be only one conclusion. God exists and the Holy Bible is His word!

I think your problem is that you did not actually read the entire Holy Bible. Your opinion of the Holy Bible is based on hearsay. If you actually paid some attention during that education of yours instead of masturbating all the time you would have learned that you have to research the facts before you draw your conclusion. The facts here being the contents of the Holy Bible.

Well what is it going to be? Ignorance or enlightenment? Heaven or hell ?

[repented harlot70]

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John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come

1 Corinthians 2:10
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

There is no way that I myself can convince you. Only the Holy Spirit can reveal to you because it is spiritually revealed.

[Bestrafe]

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But according to the Bible, we should kill non-believers.

Yeah sounds like something a really loving god would have done to his "most precious creations". I just don't get it most of the times, people say that god is so merciful, but to say "believe or die" doesn't sound so merciful. Sounds more ruthless than anything, and rather like a lot a few communistic countries that kill anyone with a bible.

[Cranky Old Man]

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Yeah sounds like something a really loving god would have done to his "most precious creations". I just don't get it most of the times, people say that god is so merciful

Those are people who only read the fluffy parts of the Holy Bible and skip the nasty parts. God is not always a nice guy.

People God hates: Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren." Deuteronomy 12:31 "You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."

[Sister Kitty]

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Yeah sounds like something a really loving god would have done to his "most precious creations". I just don't get it most of the times, people say that god is so merciful, but to say "believe or die" doesn't sound so merciful. Sounds more ruthless than anything, and rather like a lot a few communistic countries that kill anyone with a bible.

Would you like me to send you a Bible and a plane ticket?

[Bestrafe]

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They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."

Ummm does the name Issac ring any bells there?
I know all about the Sodom and Gomorrah deal, I grew up in a southern church with a fire and brimstone preacher.
That and the load of necessary mess that happened with Job, destroying that old mans entire livelihood, and physical well being (A man who followed god's way to the T) just to settle a bet with the devil sounds kinda low to me.

[Bestrafe]

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Sorry I meant to say "unnecessary mess" in that last post.

[Cranky Old Man]

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Ummm does the name Issac ring any bells there? I know all about the Sodom and Gomorrah deal, I grew up in a southern church with a fire and brimstone preacher. That and the load of necessary mess that happened with Job, destroying that old mans entire livelihood, and physical well being (A man who followed god's way to the T) just to settle a bet with the devil sounds kinda low to me.

What is your point exactly? My point was that God is not always a nice guy.

[Sister Kitty]

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That and the load of necessary mess that happened with Job, destroying that old mans entire livelihood, and physical well being (A man who followed god's way to the T) just to settle a bet with the devil sounds kinda low to me.

Just imagine what He has in store for you.

[Bestrafe]

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My point is that your god, in reality most likely doesn't care about your well being or anything else as long as he gets his praise. People worship him not out of love, but of fear, fear of going to hell being in pain or even ending up like Job. So I guess in a manner of speaking god is kind of a terrorist.

[Cranky Old Man]

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My point is that your god, in reality most likely doesn't care about your well being or anything else as long as he gets his praise. People worship him not out of love, but of fear, fear of going to hell being in pain or even ending up like Job. So I guess in a manner of speaking god is kind of a terrorist.

You really seem to want to go to Hell. Why do you hate Jesus so much while He even died to allow you to become sin free?

[Bestrafe]

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Face the facts if you did not think (or you probably think you know) that god exists, and that doing certain things would grant you eternal damnation. Would you really be leading the life that you are now?