[joshbr10]

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Ok, have said the hail mary. We pray to her diffenertly than we would pray to Jesus though, I dont really know how to explain it, but we do not pray to her as a God herself. And when we do good deeds, we do it out of the kindness of our hearts also. It definetly is not simply just us trying to get to heaven. In fact I belive that I can already go to heaven (please don't rip on me for saying that, its what I belive) because I am a good person and I do not commit mortal sins. So if I think I can already get into heaven then why would I do charitable acts to try to get into heaven.

[BelieverInGod]

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Ok, have said the hail mary. We pray to her diffenertly than we would pray to Jesus though, I dont really know how to explain it, but we do not pray to her as a God herself. And when we do good deeds, we do it out of the kindness of our hearts also. It definetly is not simply just us trying to get to heaven. In fact I belive that I can already go to heaven (please don't rip on me for saying that, its what I belive) because I am a good person and I do not commit mortal sins. So if I think I can already get into heaven then why would I do charitable acts to try to get into heaven.

We're trying to explain to you that even if you're a 'saint' you're not getting into heaven. It has nothing to do with being a 'good person' it has everything to do with surrendering your life to Jesus and following everything in the KJV1611 Bible.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Note: you have to believe before you are baptized, therefore infant baptism doesn't work. That's something the Catholic church invented to make parents feel better about children dying.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[joshbr10]

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I was baptised when I was four years old I can remember it and I believed then to, like I do now. I do follow Jesus, maybe not the same way that your bible says to. But I follow Jesus. You wont be able to convince me that I do not follow him, because I do. I don't even follow my own bible to the exact word, the bible contradicts itself now and then, so I guess it would be impossible anyways.

[BelieverInGod]

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I was baptised when I was four years old I can remember it and I believed then to, like I do now. I do follow Jesus, maybe not the same way that your bible says to. But I follow Jesus. You wont be able to convince me that I do not follow him, because I do. I don't even follow my own bible to the exact word, the bible contradicts itself now and then, so I guess it would be impossible anyways.

How can you say you follow Jesus if you don't follow the Bible?

[joshbr10]

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Also a quick question, does your religion believe in the ten commandments?

I believe in them. And I must honor my parents wishes, to be a catholic.

[BelieverInGod]

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Also a quick question, does your religion believe in the ten commandments?

I believe in them. And I must honor my parents wishes, to be a catholic.

Matthew 12:46-50 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:31-35 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

[joshbr10]

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Look, I do follow the bible, but not word for word. The bible contradicts itself many times and therefor it cannot be followed word for word. The bible WAS written by humans... humans are not always right. I look at the bible as a tool to teach me about what is right and wrong. How I should live my life to be a good christian, and be a positive influence on the world. I believe it is to be taken metaphorically. And many of you seem to take it out of context. How many of you have gotten John 3:16 (taken out of all context) thrown at you

[Paul Jeffery]

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Look, I do follow the bible, but not word for word.

Then you don't follow the Bible.

The bible contradicts itself many times and therefor it cannot be followed word for word.

Kindly support that assertion with Scripture.

The bible WAS written by humans... humans are not always right.

The Bible was written by humans who were merely scribes writing the inspired word of God himself as He dictated it word for word to them.

I look at the bible as a tool to teach me about what is right and wrong. How I should live my life to be a good christian, and be a positive influence on the world.

No, you don't. You do not follow the Bible.

I believe it is to be taken metaphorically.

Please show where the Bible says which parts are to be "taken metaphorically".

And many of you seem to take it out of context. How many of you have gotten John 3:16 (taken out of all context) thrown at you

Please cite a single example of where a member of God's favorite forum has taken Scripture "out of context".

[BelieverInGod]

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Look, I do follow the bible, but not word for word. The bible contradicts itself many times and therefor it cannot be followed word for word. The bible WAS written by humans... humans are not always right. I look at the bible as a tool to teach me about what is right and wrong. How I should live my life to be a good christian, and be a positive influence on the world. I believe it is to be taken metaphorically. And many of you seem to take it out of context. How many of you have gotten John 3:16 (taken out of all context) thrown at you

So you pick and choose what to believe? You've created a God in your own image? The Bible was written by God, it's our "how-to manual" for life. It is not to be taken Metaphorically.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Yes John 3:16 gets thrown at us constantly, thank you for recognizing that others have been taking it out of context.

[joshbr10]

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DT 6:5, MT 22:37, MK 12:30, LK 10:27 Love God.
DT 6:13, PS 33:8, 34:9, 111:10, 115:13, 128:1, 147:11, PR 8:13, 16:6, 19:23, 22:4, IS 8:13, LK 12:5, 1PE 2:17 Fear God.
1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love.
PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the prophets.
JE 8:8 The scribes (copyists, editors, teachers) falsify the word.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).
(Note: Not every word of God can prove true if God deceives anyone at all; teaching from the Bible cannot be trusted if the scribes falsify the word. In other words, the first reference is mutually exclusive with the other three. Thus, the Bible cannot be the perfect work of a perfect, all-powerful and loving God since one or more of the above references is obviously untrue. Note also: Some versions use the word "persuade" rather than "deceives." The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)


That was just a quick lookup on google, there is a huge list. Go ahead check your bibles, im not just making this up.

[BelieverInGod]

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DT 6:5, MT 22:37, MK 12:30, LK 10:27 Love God.
DT 6:13, PS 33:8, 34:9, 111:10, 115:13, 128:1, 147:11, PR 8:13, 16:6, 19:23, 22:4, IS 8:13, LK 12:5, 1PE 2:17 Fear God.
1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love.
PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the prophets.
JE 8:8 The scribes (copyists, editors, teachers) falsify the word.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).
(Note: Not every word of God can prove true if God deceives anyone at all; teaching from the Bible cannot be trusted if the scribes falsify the word. In other words, the first reference is mutually exclusive with the other three. Thus, the Bible cannot be the perfect work of a perfect, all-powerful and loving God since one or more of the above references is obviously untrue. Note also: Some versions use the word "persuade" rather than "deceives." The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)


That was just a quick lookup on google, there is a huge list. Go ahead check your bibles, im not just making this up.

You're saying that you don't think God is capable of keeping his scribes in line? Yes God decieves some people, unfortunately you seem to be one of them.

I am very sad that you do not believe in Jesus and think that God is some sort of trickster that you can't trust.

[joshbr10]

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You're saying that you don't think God is capable of keeping his scribes in line? Yes God decieves some people, unfortunately you seem to be one of them.

I am very sad that you do not believe in Jesus and think that God is some sort of trickster that you can't trust.

You really dont pay attention. I DO believe and Jesus, as i have said many times. It was not me saying that god decieves, it was directly from the bible. all of those things in my last post came directly from the bible. And no, I guess god wasn't able to keep his scribes in line, they were humans, they make mistakes. The Bible even says so.

Jeremiah 8:8 (King James Version)


8How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

[Lisa H]

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You really dont pay attention. I DO believe and Jesus, as i have said many times. It was not me saying that god decieves, it was directly from the bible. all of those things in my last post came directly from the bible. And no, I guess god wasn't able to keep his scribes in line, they were humans, they make mistakes. The Bible even says so.

Jeremiah 8:8 (King James Version)
8How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

Stop trying to trick us with your devil trickery

Acts 13:10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

[joshbr10]

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Im not trying to trick anyone, convert anyone, or anything like that. Its just a bible quote. Its just to show you that the bible does have flaws in it. Not just from when it was origionally written, but over the past 2000 years it has been edited and translated many times so things aren't always right. Have you ever played that game in grade school where you all sit in a circle and whisper a message to the person on your right side, and the message gets whispered around the circle, person by person, until it is told to the person on your left, and by then the message is usually different from the one you origionally said? Its kind of like that.

[Lisa H]

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Im not trying to trick anyone, convert anyone, or anything like that. Its just a bible quote. Its just to show you that the bible does have flaws in it. Not just from when it was origionally written, but over the past 2000 years it has been edited and translated many times so things aren't always right. Have you ever played that game in grade school where you all sit in a circle and whisper a message to the person on your right side, and the message gets whispered around the circle, person by person, until it is told to the person on your left, and by then the message is usually different from the one you origionally said? Its kind of like that.

There you go again with your devil trickery.

The Kings James Bible is the word of the Lord as is never wrong.