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  • Gaps
    Unsaved Trash, Hatemonger
    • Aug 2010
    • 162

    #31
    Re: Hello

    Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
    Ah, I see, if it is not new and Iphone compatible app, it is no good? Do you feel the same way about your grandparents?
    No not at all. Im not disliking old things. But I think the world has changed a lot since Gods word became written down. I know that you most likely dont

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    That's your problem. God commands and it is up to us to obey or spit in His loving face. Turn or burn, as the saying goes. Lazy people get rewarded by an eternity in hell.
    Obey and spit? Thats quiet a tough one! I know you believe its "either or", but i dont. Why so much in a hurry to send me to hell? In your eyes i will stay there forever anyway...

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    • Pastor Ezekiel
      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 78556

      #32
      Re: Hello

      Originally posted by Grapes View Post
      Why so much in a hurry to send me to hell? In your eyes i will stay there forever anyway...
      I'm not sending you to hell, pal. You're sending yourself to hell.

      Once you're there, I'll be laughing my ass off at you, right next to Jesus.
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • Gaps
        Unsaved Trash, Hatemonger
        • Aug 2010
        • 162

        #33
        Re: Hello

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        I'm not sending you to hell, pal. You're sending yourself to hell.

        Once you're there, I'll be laughing my ass off at you, right next to Jesus.
        Then say hello from me. And dont choke while laughing... would be waste of life dying when just arrived.

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        • James Hutchins
          True Christian™
          Just a Regular Nice Guy
           
          • Jun 2009
          • 29457

          #34
          Re: Hello

          Originally posted by Grapes View Post
          No not at all. Im not disliking old things. But I think the world has changed a lot since Gods word became written down. I know that you most likely dont
          ...............
          Son, the Bible is a scant 2,000 years old. Compare that to eternity. The KJV re-write in to modern english is only 400 years old.A fruit fly lives 24 hours. A five year old child thinks 20 years old is old, a 80 year old man thinks 100 years is old. The reality is, is it is all just a blink and in fact, nothing really changes. The Bible is just as accurate and timely today as it was when it was originally penned and the ink still wet. You'll see, once you are a little older and mature.
          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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          • Gaps
            Unsaved Trash, Hatemonger
            • Aug 2010
            • 162

            #35
            Re: Hello

            Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
            Son, the Bible is a scant 2,000 years old. Compare that to eternity. The KJV re-write in to modern english is only 400 years old.A fruit fly lives 24 hours. A five year old child thinks 20 years old is old, a 80 year old man thinks 100 years is old. The reality is, is it is all just a blink and in fact, nothing really changes. The Bible is just as accurate and timely today as it was when it was originally penned and the ink still wet. You'll see, once you are a little older and mature.
            I get your point James I just dont agree on that nothing really changes, i think it does

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            • Levi Jones
              Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
              Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
              Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
               
              • Jul 2009
              • 13930

              #36
              Re: Hello

              Originally posted by Grapes View Post
              I get your point James I just dont agree on that nothing really changes, i think it does
              What has changed? If you are going to claim that women as pastors and homers are actually okay, when Paul clearly says they are not, what else has changed?

              Did Jesus not really rise from the grave? Was Mary not really a virgin?
              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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              • Gaps
                Unsaved Trash, Hatemonger
                • Aug 2010
                • 162

                #37
                Re: Hello

                Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                What has changed? If you are going to claim that women as pastors and homers are actually okay, when Paul clearly says they are not, what else has changed?

                Did Jesus not really rise from the grave? Was Mary not really a virgin?
                Well we has changed. We as humans, we as society.
                Funny though, the bible should be around 2000 years old. Your version is around 400 years old. Off course it was needed to "update" the scripts. All im saying is that, we should maybe do that again...

                Are women not equal to men?

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                • Levi Jones
                  Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                  Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                  Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                   
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 13930

                  #38
                  Re: Hello

                  Originally posted by Grapes View Post
                  Well we has changed. We as humans, we as society.
                  Funny though, the bible should be around 2000 years old. Your version is around 400 years old.
                  How has it changed in the time period you mention? How does translating it into English diminish its meaning?

                  Originally posted by Grapes View Post
                  Off course it was needed to "update" the scripts. All im saying is that, we should maybe do that again...
                  Again? When was it last done? The scriptures have never changed. It is only that man has become more sinful in his nature.

                  I have no doubt the rapture is near.

                  Originally posted by Grapes View Post
                  Are women not equal to men?
                  As slaves are equal to their masters? I suppose so. Jesus does not discriminate in Heaven, but the subservience of women and the relationship between slaves and their masters is well defined and outlined.

                  Again, I will quote the scriptures upon request.
                  Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                  • Levi Jones
                    Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                    Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                    Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                     
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 13930

                    #39
                    Re: Hello

                    Originally posted by Grapes View Post
                    Well we has changed. We as humans, we as society.
                    Funny though, the bible should be around 2000 years old. Your version is around 400 years old. Off course it was needed to "update" the scripts. All im saying is that, we should maybe do that again...

                    Are women not equal to men?
                    You never answered my question about your version of Christianity.

                    Do you believe Christ was crucified and rose three days later or does that need an update?
                    What of the virgin birth of Mary? Should that be updated because it is "scientifically impossible"?

                    What all needs updating and what doesn't? Who are you to decide?
                    Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                    • handmaiden
                      Is a good, decent True Christian™ lady
                      True Christian™
                      • May 2010
                      • 11616

                      #40
                      Re: Hello

                      Originally posted by Grapes View Post
                      Well we has changed. We as humans, we as society.
                      Funny though, the bible should be around 2000 years old. Your version is around 400 years old. Off course it was needed to "update" the scripts. All im saying is that, we should maybe do that again...

                      Are women not equal to men?

                      Corinthians 1:11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


                      Just one example of a not-so-modern take from God's Word. Basically, it says men are in charge. Do I like that fact? Not always. But God is unchanging and His Word is unchanging. If I want to be saved, I obey God. It's very simple.

                      God did not say that men are in charge now, but when people get fancy with central heating and running water and zip around real fast in funny chariots that don't have horses hitched to the front of them, THEN women get to be in charge, too.

                      God created us different and He has set forth different responsibilities and requirements for different people. The Bible has all the information needed for living a Godly life. And it has a clear response to every idea that you have expressed.

                      If you believe in God, why don't you obey Him? And if you obey Him, you read and FOLLOW the Bible. Anything else is disobedience or unbelief.

                      Oh, by the way, you know who believes in God and disobeys Him?

                      SATAN.

                      Satan never suffers doubts about the existence of God. They used to be Facebook friends. But Satan wanted to be "equals" with God, so God had no choice but to unfriend him.

                      Remember with God, love equals obedience. Anything else is rebellion.

                      So put down your protest signs that read "The Bible needs revising." You can't reverse engineer God's Word.

                      Firmly Yours,

                      Handmaiden
                      His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

                      Guns For God and the Economy

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                      • James Dewitt
                        #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 6267

                        #41
                        Re: Hello

                        Originally posted by Grapes View Post
                        Well we has changed. We as humans, we as society.
                        Funny though, the bible should be around 2000 years old. Your version is around 400 years old. Off course it was needed to "update" the scripts. All im saying is that, we should maybe do that again...

                        Are women not equal to men?

                        Has man changed or has the world around man changed?
                        Man still hunts, woman still gathers. Do we ride camels and horses no, we drive cars. Is the role of man and woman the same, yep. You see the enforcement in which we live has gone through some changes, but the human race is the same as it was when Adam and Eve first sinned. Ask yourself this has God changed or have we drifted from Him?
                        Revelation 1:8

                        I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

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                        • Gaps
                          Unsaved Trash, Hatemonger
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 162

                          #42
                          Re: Hello

                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          How has it changed in the time period you mention? How does translating it into English diminish its meaning?
                          "The KJV re-write...." Well in any translation you will find loss. Of point, words or perspective. Thats how it works. But i gues you do not believe that. In another thread i read that you in here think that God spoke American... then why translate?


                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          Again? When was it last done? The scriptures have never changed. It is only that man has become more sinful in his nature.
                          The scripts changes... see above.

                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          As slaves are equal to their masters? I suppose so. Jesus does not discriminate in Heaven, but the subservience of women and the relationship between slaves and their masters is well defined and outlined.
                          So i guess you see woman as slaves... nice job buddy! Who did God create at first? man or women? Please tell me. And then why are women suppose to live in the shadow of man during life?[/QUOTE]

                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          Again, I will quote the scriptures upon request.
                          Whatever... you have the answers to everything in scripts, so why do i not just ask tricky questions and test your ability to find answers....

                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          You never answered my question about your version of Christianity.
                          I think i have misunderstood something. My version of Christianity?


                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          Do you believe Christ was crucified and rose three days later or does that need an update?
                          What of the virgin birth of Mary? Should that be updated because it is "scientifically impossible"?
                          No i find it hard to believe that he was crucified and rose three days later - but i might be wrong. Mary, was she a virgin? Who knows... where you there to inspect? I wasnt, so i cant answer you.[/QUOTE]

                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          What all needs updating and what doesn't? Who are you to decide?
                          Im not to decide it - honestly i dont care if you follow one book or another. Your choice, your life. But i find it interesting that yo do not talk about the book you translated the KVJ from... in what language was that book?

                          Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
                          The Bible has all the information needed for living a Godly life. And it has a clear response to every idea that you have expressed.
                          I agree, the Bible contains more information and lessons than anything else. But what im thinking is just that some statements are past their time...


                          Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
                          If you believe in God, why don't you obey Him? And if you obey Him, you read and FOLLOW the Bible. Anything else is disobedience or unbelief.
                          Well first, i will not obey anyone 100%. If i do not feel my heart or brain wants the same as the order, i do something else. Lucky for me, i have a good heart and a functional brain, so i do not have to follow something blindly without questions.

                          Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
                          Remember with God, love equals obedience. Anything else is rebellion.
                          Anything else is rebellion... thats a too easy bought argument for me.

                          Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
                          So put down your protest signs that read "The Bible needs revising." You can't reverse engineer God's Word.
                          Honestly i dont care how you live your life and what bible you follow. Thats your choice like its mine to think and believe different

                          Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                          Has man changed or has the world around man changed?
                          Both.

                          Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                          Man still hunts, woman still gathers. Do we ride camels and horses no, we drive cars. Is the role of man and woman the same, yep. You see the enforcement in which we live has gone through some changes, but the human race is the same as it was when Adam and Eve first sinned. Ask yourself this has God changed or have we drifted from Him?
                          Revelation 1:8
                          Well a bit of both i think. But if God is so great, wouldnt he be able to see what we humans are dealing with in our lifes? I think he he has that gift and uses it.

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                          • James Dewitt
                            #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 6267

                            #43
                            Re: Hello

                            =Grapes;584420]
                            "The KJV re-write...." Well in any translation you will find loss. Of point, words or perspective. Thats how it works. But i gues you do not believe that. In another thread i read that you in here think that God spoke American... then why translate?
                            I do not read Hebrew or Greek, besides American is the language God prefers.


                            So i guess you see woman as slaves... nice job buddy! Who did God create at first? man or women? Please tell me. And then why are women suppose to live in the shadow of man during life?
                            My wife is not my slave but I am her better. As God intended.
                            Genesis 3:16

                            Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

                            I think i have misunderstood something. My version of Christianity?
                            There is but one true version of Christianity, ours.

                            No i find it hard to believe that he was crucified and rose three days later - but i might be wrong. Mary, was she a virgin? Who knows... where you there to inspect? I wasnt, so i cant answer you.
                            Its in the Bible dummy, what is so hard to believe?


                            I agree, the Bible contains more information and lessons than anything else. But what im thinking is just that some statements are past their time...
                            God knew all of the questions before they where thought of and provided the answers, you will find them contained within the pages of the KJV1611.

                            Well first, i will not obey anyone 100%. If i do not feel my heart or brain wants the same as the order, i do something else. Lucky for me, i have a good heart and a functional brain, so i do not have to follow something blindly without questions.
                            It is really simple then, you go to HELL.



                            Well a bit of both i think. But if God is so great, wouldnt he be able to see what we humans are dealing with in our lifes? I think he he has that gift and uses it.
                            Man is still man, woman is still woman, God is still perfect, nothing has changed except for our surroundings.

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                            • Gaps
                              Unsaved Trash, Hatemonger
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 162

                              #44
                              Re: Hello

                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              =Grapes;584420]
                              I do not read Hebrew or Greek, besides American is the language God prefers.
                              So you needed a translation. When did God tell you he prefers American? A language with roots in Anglo Europe...

                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              =Grapes;584420]
                              My wife is not my slave but I am her better. As God intended.
                              Genesis 3:16
                              May your wife have a strong soul, so she will stay at your side.

                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              =Grapes;584420]
                              There is but one true version of Christianity, ours.
                              Well thats what you say, but what about Buddist? They belive they are right as well... just accept people differences and dont wate so much time doing nothing but mocking people that does not share your passion for your Bible. Do something usefull with your time...


                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              =Grapes;584420]
                              Its in the Bible dummy, what is so hard to believe?
                              Dont call me dummy - or did you mean a dummy written to test before creating a more complete bible?

                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              =Grapes;584420]
                              God knew all of the questions before they where thought of and provided the answers, you will find them contained within the pages of the KJV1611.
                              Then why did God let human create weapon of mass destruction?

                              Why does children get abused?

                              Why does does we humans pollute the planet?

                              And please, phrase if needed. I guess its needed


                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              =Grapes;584420]
                              It is really simple then, you go to HELL.
                              Yeah whatever Dewie. Why using so much negative energy on sending me to hell. If you really believe in your words, you wouldn't have to tell me that. In your strong believes im already doomed - so why not just let me go to hell when my times is up?

                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              =Grapes;584420]
                              Man is still man, woman is still woman, God is still perfect, nothing has changed except for our surroundings.
                              So i guess you still believe in the world is flat? Ot did it become flat? or the other way around?

                              The society has evolved, and so has mankind.

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                              • James Dewitt
                                #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 6267

                                #45
                                Re: Hello

                                =Grapes;584430]
                                So you needed a translation. When did God tell you he prefers American? A language with roots in Anglo Europe...
                                I said that I could not read Hebrew. America is not in Europeastan

                                May your wife have a strong soul, so she will stay at your side.
                                Phebe is a True Christian(TM)

                                Well thats what you say, but what about Buddist? They belive they are right as well... just accept people differences and dont wate so much time doing nothing but mocking people that does not share your passion for your Bible. Do something usefull with your time...
                                Buddists, Mooslims, Hinido's and the rest including Catliks are not Christian. God is quite clear on non Christians.
                                Deuteronomy 13:6-10

                                If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.




                                Dont call me dummy - or did you mean a dummy written to test before creating a more complete bible?
                                No I called you dummy, the answer to your questions are in the Bible, read it.

                                Then why did God let human create weapon of mass destruction?

                                Why does children get abused?

                                Why does does we humans pollute the planet?
                                God has granted all of man free will, He knew what we would do before we did it. God has the answer for our indiscretions its called the Rapture.


                                Yeah whatever Dewie. Why using so much negative energy on sending me to hell. If you really believe in your words, you wouldn't have to tell me that. In your strong believes im already doomed - so why not just let me go to hell when my times is up?

                                So i guess you still believe in the world is flat? Ot did it become flat? or the other way around?
                                The name is James, Mr Dewitt or Brother Dewitt. I am not sending you to hell, God is. If you want to go to hell it is no skin off my ass. Oh and by the way moron the world is flat!

                                The society has evolved, and so has mankind.
                                Show me how man has evolved. We are the same as when God created us 6,000 years ago.

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