[UnHolyislandman]

Re: Hello Everyone

It brings me great joy that I will die soon and go to Heaven. I hope my death will be very painful so I will enjoy Heaven even more.

As medium can you do me a favor when you die, after you have got over the shock of wandering around and realizing there is nowhere to go can you make contact with me please. I promise i won't laugh or ridicule you i am not like that.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Hello Everyone

As medium can you do me a favor when you die, after you have got over the shock of wandering around and realizing there is nowhere to go can you make contact with me please. I promise i won't laugh or ridicule you i am not like that.

Once I am in Heaven and you are in hell I will make sure to contact you and remind you of this posting.

[RunFar]

Re: Hello Everyone

>> But now I'm even more confused, if you use rat stem cells to cover a burn, wouldn't the patient grow rat skin and rat fur on his wound? Or is it not so bad if you shave it often?

No, that would not work... Cells cannot be mixed an matched like that. I should have been more specific.. Animal cells and byproducts are used in a supporting function through all of life sciences.

One of the goals of our generation is to provide better burn treatments. Sometimes those treatments, as well as others, use human cells, but those cells are not from embryos. They are derived from living donors who donate them like donating blood.

The kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:21)

Could you elaborate on how these treatments could endanger the afterlife?

And Billy Bob, i assure you, there are no Satanic blood orgies or anus related anything going on in our laboratories or offices.

Ok, maybe my boss is a bit of an anus, but that's besides the point..

- RF

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hello Everyone

>> But now I'm even more confused, if you use rat stem cells to cover a burn, wouldn't the patient grow rat skin and rat fur on his wound? Or is it not so bad if you shave it often?

No, that would not work... Cells cannot be mixed an matched like that. I should have been more specific.. Animal cells and byproducts are used in a supporting function through all of life sciences.

One of the goals of our generation is to provide better burn treatments. Sometimes those treatments, as well as others, use human cells, but those cells are not from embryos. They are derived from living donors who donate them like donating blood.

The kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:21)

Could you elaborate on how these treatments could endanger the afterlife?

And Billy Bob, i assure you, there are no Satanic blood orgies or anus related anything going on in our laboratories or offices.

Ok, maybe my boss is a bit of an anus, but that's besides the point..

- RF

I do not know about all the stem cell research stuff, you know all you have to do really is just pray. If you pray for help and you are worthy Jesus will help you. Rev Jim Osborne has helped many people over come there afflictions threw his power of prayer. Jesus Himself cured blindness. I see no reason for this research at all. All you need is God.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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What church do you attend? Please tell us about yourself, your family, and your personal relationship with Jesus.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Hello Everyone

I don't know how to respond... All of the cells we use are from rats, pigs, cows, or goats that go to slaughter for food. As far as human stem cells, there are lots of different types of stem cells throughout the body, for instance, in bone marrow.

So you're creating human-animal hybrids. The same reason bestiality is wrong. You're no different than a llama-humper! REPENT!

[UnHolyislandman]

Re: Hello Everyone

Once I am in Heaven and you are in hell I will make sure to contact you and remind you of this posting.

Trouble is you have no hard facts that heaven exists all you can do is quote from a book, not one person has come back and said " wow you wait until you get here it's fantastic" Sure people do head towards a light when they die but only if they want to but that is only where your soul is heading it's only another dimension.

I have met with spirits who are happy to stay here some don't even know they are dead. By my friends fathers death bed i met the spirit of his old Sunday school teacher and i asked her what is there after life and she replied " Nothing only us" The day that someone appears and tells me there is a heaven and they are just popping back for a visit i may change my views but until then if if keeps you happy in your belief then keep clinging onto your precious little story book.

ps if i am totally wrong and you do contact me from heaven do you want my number.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Hello Everyone

Re: Run Far

I am withholding my welcome from this rather seedy newcomer who has already contradicted himslef a number of times

I don't like all this talk about stem cells and growing rat parts.......This sounds like a liberal science experiment of "Playing God"

Stem cell research is linked to the principal of constant evolution of the species and is supposedly based around altering the genetics of human tissue via a laboratory

If I need a remedy, wellness or repair I prefer God's own stem cell solution - PRAYER

Warner S. Davidson

[A Follower]

Re: Hello Everyone

No, it does not. We are do research and development of technologies that are used to help people who have been burned, maimed, and paralyzed.

I don't know how to respond... All of the cells we use are from rats, pigs, cows, or goats that go to slaughter for food.

No, that would not work... Cells cannot be mixed an matched like that. I should have been more specific.. Animal cells and byproducts are used in a supporting function through all of life sciences.

One of the goals of our generation is to provide better burn treatments. Sometimes those treatments, as well as others, use human cells, but those cells are not from embryos. They are derived from living donors who donate them like donating blood.

This is an excellent example of one of the reasons that causes any reasonable and intelligent person to distrust scientists.

You say all your cells are from animals, you say you develop treatments for human burns and you say you can't use animal cells for treating humans.... Those statements don't fit together, do they? So even though you make public statements asserting you only use animal cells you have already proved that you also use human cells...

It wouldn't even surprise me if in your next post you admit to destroying embryos and using them in your treatments.

Ok, maybe my boss is a bit of an anus, but that's besides the point..

Weird, didn't you say you ran the lab? Where does this boss come from? Did we catch you once again with your pants on fire?

[RunFar]

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What church do you attend? Please tell us about yourself, your family, and your personal relationship with Jesus.

Pastor,

I hope you are not critical of my responses. I do not mean to be offensive.

I do not attend church. I have not been to church, since i was small. I remember the Lord's Prayer. I wish i could feel God like you do.

My family..... well... i guess i could say that God has blessed me there.. They're always there for me, and i'm always there for them.. Even if they do drive me nuts occasionally.

- RF

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I've got you in my prayers, friend.

What's your wife's best pie? I'm partial to blueberry myself.

[RunFar]

Re: Hello Everyone

I do appreciate your prayers. My wife's best pie is a classic apple and pear.

- RF

[RunFar]

Re: Hello Everyone

>>This is an excellent example of one of the reasons that causes any
>> reasonable and intelligent person to distrust scientists.
After re-reading the thread, i completely understand. I've been as clear as mud. I will try to fill in a few things i shouldn't have left out.. I am sorry for that.

>> You say all your cells are from animals, you say you develop treatments >> for human burns and you say you can't use animal cells for treating
>> humans.... Those statements don't fit together, do they? So even
>> though you make public statements asserting you only use animal cells >> you have already proved that you also use human cells...
I was confusing. I apologize. Those statements don't fit together. Think of it like gardening. Cells are not easy to grow or tend. Imagine a totally artificial garden where everything used is animal derived, except for the plant. Sometimes, that "plant" is animal derived, and sometimes it is from a human.

Today we were reviewing results from an experiment that did involve human cells. These cells were from the bone tumor growing inside a little boy, in the 1960's. The tumor cells have been kept alive, all this time, so we can learn how to kill it. The boy lived, that's why the cells are so important. I mentioned burn treatment twice, but primarily we work with toxicology and oncology.

>> It wouldn't even surprise me if in your next post you admit to
>> destroying embryos and using them in your treatments.
I hope that my explanation above doesn't leave you with that impression. I'm learning how colossally bad i am at explaining what i do for a living.

>> Weird, didn't you say you ran the lab? Where does this boss come from? >> Did we catch you once again with your pants on fire?
There are many labs in our building. I've got three bosses actually, thanks to matrix management.

Please, no mention of pants fires.. I worked 7am to 9pm, today was rough enough. I didn't even get to run today.

- RF