[Meek and Humble]

Re: My Introduction...

Im done for tonight. I'll check back tomorrow and respond to any other posts if I still have not been banned. Guess I picked the wrong first example of our shared homophobia. What about the imigration issue?

Also none of you have tried to find anything we might have in common... Think of something and i'll check back tomorrow. Good nite all

We do not want to share anything in common with you. You are an atheist. You are about the most evil kind of creature (I hardly even consider you human) imaginable. The Bible warns us to have NOTHING to do with hateful freaks like yourself:

2 Corinthians 6: 14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."
17"Therefore come out from them
and be separate, says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you."

2 John 1: 7Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 11Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: My Introduction...

Im done for tonight. I'll check back tomorrow and respond to any other posts if I still have not been banned. Guess I picked the wrong first example of our shared homophobia. What about the imigration issue?

Also none of you have tried to find anything we might have in common... Think of something and i'll check back tomorrow. Good nite all

I'll be looking forward to it.

[landoverlover]

Re: My Introduction...

I think the concept of hell is awful! I think if there were a loving creator he would never torture people for all eternity. It's bad enough all the terrible things that can happen in life whay scare children about an afterlife. I feel religon could well be the destruction of man. I dont want my children to be part of the problem...

Your problem, or one of them, is that you think of hell as a "concept". If you were flattened by a city bus, would you think that was a "concept"?

And where do you get the idea that God is all-loving? Before you judge Christianity you should read the Bible and know what you're talking about. God is an angry, vengeful God with a very long memory. He is willing to curse not only you, but your grandchildren's grandchildren. He burned two of His servants alive just for lighting the wrong incense in the Holy of Holies. He ordered the murder and rape of countless thousands of people from many nations. God ordered His people to beat the heads of the children of their enemies against rocks until they were dead dead dead, and rejoice while doing it. He murdered the firstborn male children, thousands of them, of Egypt for the sins of Pharaoh. He ordered the stoning to death of mouthy teenagers and for eating the wrong food. Would you like me to go on? This could take awhile.

And you know what? All of the above and much more is holy and pure. It was done by God to correct His wayward Children, and if we don't do that today you can thank the ACLU and pansy liberals. Whatever God does is just and right, by definition.

As for your lack of faith, I will pray for you, and your poor children standing on the edge of the abyss.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: My Introduction...

Actually I would still love her but I wouldn't let her bring her girlfriend to family events at my home. Just as I wouldn't let her bring a male harley riding dirtbag either...

This is how we know its lying. Atheists do not love anyone. They are not capable of it. All that brews within them is hatred of God and unstoppable raging lust. I find it hilarious you presume to call sodomites unnatural, when being an atheist is the most unnatural thing possible. We were created to worship God.

I'm glad you only live in Kalifornia, and not a REAL American state. It will make things much easier for Jesus when He returns to smite all you sinners when your gathered together in the corner of the nation. I really agree with the words of the great George Bush Sr. - "
“No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.”"


REAL Americans hate atheists!

Atheists identified as America’s most distrusted minority

Given the increasing religiosity of American culture, it's perhaps not too surprising that a new study out this month finds that Americans are not fond of atheists and trust them less than they do other groups. The depth of this distrust is a bit astonishing nonetheless.
More than 2,000 randomly selected people were interviewed by researchers from the University of Minnesota.
Asked whether they would disapprove of a child's wish to marry an atheist, 47.6 percent of those interviewed said yes. Asked the same question about Muslims and African-Americans, the yes responses fell to 33.5 percent and 27.2 percent, respectively. The yes responses for Asian-Americans, Hispanics, Jews and conservative Christians were 18.5 percent, 18.5 percent, 11.8 percent and 6.9 percent, respectively.
When asked which groups did not share their vision of American society, 39.5 percent of those interviewed mentioned atheists. Asked the same question about Muslims and homosexuals, the figures dropped to a slightly less depressing 26.3 percent and 22.6 percent, respectively. For Hispanics, Jews, Asian-Americans and African-Americans, they fell further to 7.6 percent, 7.4 percent, 7.0 percent and 4.6 percent, respectively.
The study contains other results, but these are sufficient to underline its gist: Atheists are seen by many Americans (especially conservative Christians) as alien and are, in the words of sociologist Penny Edgell, the study's lead researcher, "a glaring exception to the rule of increasing tolerance over the last 30 years."
Edgell also maintains that atheists seem to be outside the limits of American morality, which has largely been defined by religion.
Many of those interviewed saw atheists as cultural elitists, amoral materialists, or given to criminal behavior or drugs. She states, "Our findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as self-interested individuals who are not concerned with the common good."
Of course, it should go without saying, but won't, that belief in God isn't at all necessary to have a keen ethical concern for others.
The study will appear in the April issue of the American Sociological Review and is co-written by assistant professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann.

That's right. America hates atheists even more than gays and Muslims.

[Phebe Carlyle]

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"If you were a loving father, you would make sure your children grow up in a proper, Christian environment. Do you realize that if you raise them as atheists, you are damning their souls to Hell for eternity? You wouldn't just toss your kids into an oven like they're worthless Jews...so why would you raise them unsaved, which is the exact equivalent?"

I feel it is child abuse to raise a child to beleive in religeon. I was baptized luthran and grew up saying my prayers. I was scared to go to sleep each nite because I didn't want to "die before I woke"

"If you want to end up in Hell, fine, that is your prerogative. But, please, please think of the children! Drop them off at church and Sunday school. Let them say grace around the dinner table while you stay quiet and do your stupid little atheist protest. Don't warp their minds or control their thoughts...let them think for themselves! Maybe they want a relationship with Jesus Christ"

First off I have never been to a protest. Second my oldest daughter goes to church with her christian friends regularly. She goes to be with her freinds because their parents would not let them be friends without this. She does not believe a word of it but she likes the music and friendships. If she chose to believe i'd try to talk sense to her but if she was set on it i'd let her be.

Hmm.. that is interesting. So you are casting your OWN fears and understanding of Christ from a Lutheran raised perspective (yourself) onto your child. Why don't you allow her to explore God without your obviously sullen now atheist input? You are not ALLOWING your daughter to use the free will God has granted her.

Also as to your comment as to "justifying bigotry" through the Word of God.
God is certainly no bigot and ironically, the assumed by you, "free-thought" atheist "reason" you gave is the reason God finds homosexurality an abomination - ie: it's unnatural and NOT how God made us, nor for the purpose God made us.

I actually think you ARE wanting to follow God's guidance, but are just rebelling against HIM, due to the false teachings thrust upon you as a child.

You KNOW God is there but you just have your blinkers on which have made you BLIND to The Truth.

I think a little dose of God's love through Psalm 69 is in order. It MAY cause you to reflect on who you are now, which is obviously a very angry and bitter man.

Psalm 69 >>

1 Save me, O God; for the waters are come in unto my soul.

2 I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me.

3 I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I wait for my God.

4 They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.

5 O God, thou knowest my foolishness; and my sins are not hid from thee.

6 Let not them that wait on thee, O Lord GOD of hosts, be ashamed for my sake: let not those that seek thee be confounded for my sake, O God of Israel.

7 Because for thy sake I have borne reproach; shame hath covered my face.

8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children.

9 For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me.

10 When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach.

11 I made sackcloth also my garment; and I became a proverb to them.

12 They that sit in the gate speak against me; and I was the song of the drunkards.

13 But as for me, my prayer is unto thee, O LORD, in an acceptable time: O God, in the multitude of thy mercy hear me, in the truth of thy salvation.

14 Deliver me out of the mire, and let me not sink: let me be delivered from them that hate me, and out of the deep waters.

15 Let not the waterflood overflow me, neither let the deep swallow me up, and let not the pit shut her mouth upon me.

16 Hear me, O LORD; for thy lovingkindness is good: turn unto me according to the multitude of thy tender mercies.

17 And hide not thy face from thy servant; for I am in trouble: hear me speedily.

18 Draw nigh unto my soul, and redeem it: deliver me because of mine enemies.

19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonour: mine adversaries are all before thee.

20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.

21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.

22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.

23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.

24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.

25 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents.

26 For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to the grief of those whom thou hast wounded.

27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness.

28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

29 But I am poor and sorrowful: let thy salvation, O God, set me up on high.

30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving.

31 This also shall please the LORD better than an ox or bullock that hath horns and hoofs.

32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.

33 For the LORD heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.

34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein.

35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.

36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.

Something for you to truly dwell on and contemplate, Sir.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: My Introduction...

You can justify your bigotry how ever you like. I feel it is gross for two men to be together. I feel it is against nature not god.

You cant reproduce without the opposite sex.

I assume then you are disgusted by all sexual acts that are not done to reproduce? Condoms and birth control pills make you vomit? Infertile couples are freaks you don't want to stare at?

I don'tlike they way gay men act feminen.

I highly doubt you've ever spoken with any gay person for more than a minute of your life.

I don't like dykes or transexuals.

Are you upset that they refuse your advances?

I find it all weird and unpleasant.

I find a lot of people weird and unpleasant. It usually has very little to do with their sex lives. In fact, I kind of think you are weird and unpleasant.

(Lipstick lesbians I dont mind but I wouldnt want my daughters to be one) guess im a hypocrte too!

Bingo. "Lipstick" lesbians don't bother you because you are sexually attracted to them. A woman with another woman does not upset your fragile ego and weak sense of masculinity. Effeminate men bother you because of your own insecurities. You fear their flirting with you because you are afraid you might yourself be mistaken as less of a man by someone else, or maybe you even fear that you'd like it?

Just like the people of Landover, you are the victim of indoctrination - only yours is not religious but of stereotypical gender roles. This is learned behavior, not a natural reaction from you. You hate and fear what you don't understand. You hate and fear what you have been taught to hate and fear just because it is different.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Bingo. "Lipstick" lesbians don't bother you because you are sexually attract[ed] to them. A woman with another woman does not upset your fragile ego and weak sense of masculinity. Effeminate men bother you because of your own insecurities.

Hmm, that would explain why he has a picture of a half-naked homer as his avatar.

[MitzaLizalor]

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We are following God's law.

As you are an atheist and hate God what are your reasons for hating homers as you do? Obviously it has nothing at all to do with God's LOVE or His law, so what is YOUR reasoning?

His reasoning is certainly unusual, and clearly has none of the features we are used to from the Perfect Love of God.
If someone came to him and said "your daughter has just been tortured to death" would he just laugh, say "I have no daughter" and pour himself a beer? But when God's Son is tortured to death, he sneers "God has no Son!"
Matthew 12:25

I think the concept of hell is awful!

So do I

I think if there were a loving creator he would never torture people for all eternity.

REVELATION 14:7 ..Feare God, and giue glory to him, for the houre of his iudgement is come: and worshippe him that made heauen and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
The Bible tells us that God does not want to torture anybody John 3:17 but it's your choice. You also choose for your family. ACTS 11:12b-14 ..sixe brethren accompanied me, and we entred into the mans house: And he shewed vs how hee had seene an Angell in his house, which stood and said vnto him, Send men to Ioppa, and call for Simon, whose sirname is Peter: Who shall tell thee words, wherby thou, and all thy house shal be saued. It is not compulsory to choose life for your family. Isaiah 14:21 Hosea 9:12 You can choose life; if not God will kill the lot of you, wives, "innocent" children, ancient men - but marks out those whom He will spare, in His love.Ezekiel 9:6
What happens to people who say God does not exist? I don't need to think about that, because God in His mercy, has told us what happens. Isaiah 13:16 Leviticus 26:22
Unfortunately, that is only the beginning. I cannot believe that anyone would be so cruel to his children that he would not teach them this. God loves us so much that He has told us over and over again what happens next. Some people will just not listen. This is what happens to those people:
REVELATION 14:10-11a The same shall drinke of the wine of the wrath of God, which is powred out without mixture into the cup of his indignation, and hee shall be tormented with fire and brimstone, in the presence of the holy Angels, and in the presence of the Lambe: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth vp for euer and euer. And they haue no rest day nor night
Landover Baptist does not tell me what to believe. God does. His Love is Perfect. I am imperfect. PRAISE HIM ! !

[Didymus Much]

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Frankly, dude, just what the piffle makes your DNA worth protecting? You've spent every post here spouting ignorance and hatred of everyone who doesn't look, act, and smell just like you. Fags threaten you because your own sexual identity is so weak, not through any fault of their own.

I don't even think you're an atheist. You believe there's a higher power (who happens to agree with your prejudices), you just don't like the Christian God because He hates your drinking and whoring.

Do the world (and us) a favor: leave this forum, go back to the football game or whatever on TV, and have no more children.

[BelieverInGod]

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Frankly, dude, just what the piffle makes your DNA worth protecting? You've spent every post here spouting ignorance and hatred of everyone who doesn't look, act, and smell just like you. Fags threaten you because your own sexual identity is so weak, not through any fault of their own.

I don't even think you're an atheist. You believe there's a higher power (who happens to agree with your prejudices), you just don't like the Christian God because He hates your drinking and whoring.

Do the world (and us) a favor: leave this forum, go back to the football game or whatever on TV, and have no more children.

Wow, so there's even cherry picking atheists out there. Tell me, are you just as frustrated with them as we are with the cherry picking "christians"?

[FARGINIDJIT]

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Wow, so there's even cherry picking atheists out there. Tell me, are you just as frustrated with them as we are with the cherry picking "christians"?

Yes I spend a lot of time on atheistforum as well but never post because they dont represent me. I am not an over educated super enlightened perfect person like all the atheists there. I am a typical american male I do like football RAIDER NATION! I can be a hypictite a racist a bigot and I think most people are to some degree. The difference is I can admit my faults and be honest. I think it is funny when someone calls you a racist for not wanting ILLEGAL immigrants here. Then they are afraid to get on a plane with a turban wearing muslim. (I would be too) They don't think they themselves are racist lol. It's just common sense, if I see a black man im not afraid of him. If I see 5 black guys wearing gang colors I might cross the street... Am I racist? Maybe...

Also to all atheists now reading this thread. No I don't beleive in a higher power but I am open to the possibility that evidence could sway me. I think the posibility of a "God" existing is miniscule and the possibility that any religon has it right is zero...

Have to go to work now will respond to the rest tonight...

Ps. Lets get off of the homo topic its going round in circles. Lets agree to agree for different reasons lol. I'm interested in your opinions on illegal immigration....

[Nobar King]

Re: My Introduction...

I thought I would point you to some threads that refer to the immigration issue:
go back to mexico
the wetback invasion

[James Dewitt]

Re: My Introduction...

Ps. Lets get off of the homo topic its going round in circles. Lets agree to agree for different reasons lol. I'm interested in your opinions on illegal immigration....

Well if the people are here illegally then they should leave.
I an not going to dismiss my two Messican workers and my two nigras just because they are not caucasians. Its my guess that you are a member of the KKK as well as being a Homer bigot? Do you hate slants, dot heads and sand nigras as much as you hate Homers and Jesus?

[James Hutchins]

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FRAGNBASTICH, I am a bit confused. See, I am a simple man, I do not see the world through rose colored glasses, I do not have unrealistic dreams and fantasies. I see the beauty of the world and thank God for it. Why you will not even give Him a passing nod flabbergasts me. You honestly think everything is just a mere chance? These days, a demoncrat is merely a hippie who has a job. You people want to give it all away (and you are) in the claimed desire 'to make the world a better place'. A nobler statement. Thing is, who is going to foot the bill? Who is going to clean up the mess? The world is not like Woodstock, fully of filthy hippies sliding around in the mud, having sex with anything and anyone, doing drugs, listening to Satan's Tunes(r) and throwing your trash on the ground. Loads of fun during the party but what about day four?
Lastly and simpler still, why are you even here if you hate religion? I suspect (and this is the case, 99.9% of the time) it is because you are not sure you are right. There is a little fire deep within your soul for Jesus. You may think it is curiosity. Maybe you do not have all the answers. Perhaps religion, which has been around since time began has a clue. I think you'd be a happier man, have a wholesome family if you'd Give God a Chance(c). Read the KJV Bible. See what is making people feel fulfilled. Understand what He is really all about. You cannot know the truth until you have heard all the information. Don't be an Ostrich.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Yes I spend a lot of time on atheistforum as well but never post because they dont represent me. I am not an over educated super enlightened perfect person like all the atheists there.

That's evident. But you do have a keen grasp of the obvious.

I think it is funny when someone calls you a racist for not wanting ILLEGAL immigrants here.

Nobody's ever called me a racist for not wanting illegal immigrants in the US. Then again, Canadian isn't a race.

Then they are afraid to get on a plane with a turban wearing muslim. (I would be too)

That's because you are so isolated from anything different from you that you don't comprehend that most of the ones wearing "turbans" are Sikhs, not Muslims. Sikhs don't blow themselves up. Generally, Arab Muslims, who wear the keffiyeh (if anything), blow themselves up. The 9-11 hijackers wore no headcovering, and most Arabs in or visiting the West do likewise.


Non-exploding Sikh with turban


Arab Muslim (Muslimus detonatus) wearing an elaborate keffiyeh.

Ps. Lets get off of the homo topic its going round in circles. Lets agree to agree for different reasons lol. I'm interested in your opinions on illegal immigration....

Thanks for removing your "glamour shot" from your avatar, "girlfriend". I'm not sure the cartoon murderous drag queen is much better.