[Moogitar (On Moderation)]

Re: Hello.

Have you ever been in outer space? NO. So you are relying on second hand hearsay. All the photo's that you have seen of the earth from space are made up in Hollywood.

It is easier to be in space than it is to be IN "JESUS'" TIME PERIOD TO SEE HIM FOR YOURSELF, AND SINCE THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF JESUS/GOD, EXCEPT FOR A BOOK THAT HAS LITTLE EVIDENCE SUPPORTING IT'S REAL, BECAUSE IF I WAS IN THAT TIME PERIOD, I COULD EASILY WRITE A BOOK, AND SINCE IT COULDN'T BE PROVED WRONG BACK THEN, PEOPLE WOULD STILL BELIEVE IT TODAY. In other words, Christians rely on secondary accounts of God's existence. There was no physical evidence proving the existence of God or Jesus, there's only writing. No bones, no photographs (only paintings, which can are made by people, so they can be altered to show whatever they please.) So based on your logic, I can read a real book, and believe what it says. PS; There may have been a man named Jesus, but he was no different than any other person in his time. Who knows? Maybe an atheist wrote the bible, just to trick people.. Or, Jesus tricked people into making them think he was special. Until you get some physical evidence supporting your faith, stand aside. (Don't tell me bullsh_t like IT'S REAL BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BIBLE. Or any other excuses that make no logical sense to support your argument.)

[Moogitar (On Moderation)]

Re: Hello.

No. We know the Earth is flat because the Bible says so!

This has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The bible was made by idiots. Just because a piece of paper says something, does it mean it's real? Let's test this. Print off a piece of paper saying jump off a bridge to be with God forever, and let's see if it works.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Hello.

This has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The bible was made by idiots. Just because a piece of paper says something, does it mean it's real? Let's test this. Print off a piece of paper saying jump off a bridge to be with God forever, and let's see if it works.

No, that's just stupid. See, the difference is that what you wrote is just a bunch of words on a piece of paper. You can't just write anything and make it true.

The Bible on the other hand is the inspired Word of God.

(Or let me put it in another way if you're still not getting it: There's a sheet of paper that says do not throw a lit cigarette into a tank of gasoline. Now, you throw your cigarette into the tank of gasoline....what happens? Right. It blows up. Even though it's "words on paper", they are still correct, just like how the Bible is correct.)

[Moogitar (On Moderation)]

Re: Hello.

No, that's just stupid. See, the difference is that what you wrote is just a bunch of words on a piece of paper. You can't just write anything and make it true.

The Bible on the other hand is the inspired Word of God.

(Or let me put it in another way if you're still not getting it: There's a sheet of paper that says do not throw a lit cigarette into a tank of gasoline. Now, you throw your cigarette into the tank of gasoline....what happens? Right. It blows up. Even though it's "words on paper", they are still correct, just like how the Bible is correct.)

Then it should be a book of morals, rather than going into the "God" and "Jesus" nonsense. A book of teachings made from just ordinary people would be ok.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hello.

I can show the Earth is a sphere from pictures from outer space, which you foolishly do not believe in. What about airplanes, then. You're saying it'd curve with intelligent pushing/pulling, and you would skim across the edge of the Earth? People would be able to see that out their windows, while they don't.

No, you failed. You know it, I know it. Every person who reads this thread knows it and most importantly, God knows it. You said you could provide proof andf all you had were guesses, theories not a single fact. All you do is feebly attemot to spin your lies.

You look at the Earth and you see a flat (albeit with bumps/mountains) disk. You do not see a sphere.

[Moogitar (On Moderation)]

Re: Hello.

No, you failed. You know it, I know it. Every person who reads this thread knows it and most importantly, God knows it. You said you could provide proof andf all you had were guesses, theories not a single fact. All you do is feebly attemot to spin your lies.

You look at the Earth and you see a flat (albeit with bumps/mountains) disk. You do not see a sphere.

Can you prove to me the existence of god then? The bible was made, sure. Can your prove god wrote it? Just because the bible says things, that doesn't prove anything. I could take somebody's story, and say I wrote it. Does it make it true? Not really.
It's impossible for anyone to prove God wrote the book, and his existence. You're blindly believing in a faith with no physical evidence to support it.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hello.

Can you prove to me the existence of god then? The bible was made, sure. Can your prove god wrote it? Just because the bible says things, that doesn't prove anything. I could take somebody's story, and say I wrote it. Does it make it true? Not really.
It's impossible for anyone to prove God wrote the book, and his existence. You're blindly believing in a faith with no physical evidence to support it.

Do you have to see everything to believe in it? Can you see the air? can you see the warmth form the sun? Can you see electricity? NO, NO and no yet they are real . Can you see that God created everything ? Can you see His word? Can you see that we are right and you are wrong?
Yes, yes and yes.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello.

*sigh* I had to go back a ways. I see that our little friend hasn't picked up any kind of a book yet.

No. I said nothing of the sort.

So what exactly is this "reality" you speak of? If everything scientists say is based in reality, then how did they get so much so wrong?

Science most certainly does not "guess." They prove it with reality, they don't take utter bullshit from a book and believe it. They do experiments and prove the theories.

No, I can't. But you can't prove he is real, either. Atheists and Science have theories and such.
You have a book.

o I have a theory that God is real, therefore, since it's a "theory" I am right.

Coincidences.

10,000+ coincidences from one book? Now who's being blind?

No, I know exactly what I'm talking about. You could at least try to argue against them, they're well-thought-out. The least you could do is acknowledge them, and maybe try to prove them wrong. Until you do, I have the upper hand in saying if God exists or not.

You have no idea. I actually have a BSc. what's your education? I have acknowledged your "theories" (which are not what scientists say). You're just being stubborn, you haven't proven anything, I doubt you have even done well in one science class. All you are doing is spewing out half understood garbage that you've read on the Internet.

I've justified my points just fine. Time for you to try.

Really, no you haven't.

Act your age* and that's off topic. It was most obviously a rhetorical question.

Well if we're all acting our age around here, I'm going to guess you're 12? You challenged me to answer a question, and I did. You didn't.

Simply a matter of opinion. I am right, I know I am. Lots of people agree with me. Two of which have posted in this thread, and are both Atheist. One of which you banned for no apparent reason. Ask Moogitar if he agrees with everything I have said.

So you're right because you "know" you're right. Damn whatever the science books say. Lots of people agree that Sasquatch exists, that they have been abducted by aliens, that the holocaust never happened, and that 9/11 was an inside job. I guess they're all right as well.

Look at who I was replying to. The theory that you didn't want to look at because of it being a theory. My theories to get around God not existing.

So you have proof that God doesn't exist. Amazing. Now why don't you contact Dawkins (who has admitted he's only 98% sure God doesn't exist) and let him know. I'm sure he'll be amazed by your proof.

Lets look at your little theory here scientifically, shall we?

Hypothesis: God does not exist
Create a way to disprove your hypothesis: uh.....
Test: Oops
Modify hypothesis according to your results: Well since you failed.

Now lets look at my side
Hypothesis: God does exist
Create a way to disprove your hypothesis: Create life, create a universe, prove that 10,000 coincidences "just happened"
Test: Yep, nobody been able to create life or a universe, also 10,000 from a 774,746 book is a pretty big coincidence.
Modify hypothesis according to your results: My hypothesis stands, God is the only way that these things could happen.

QUOTE=Can I justify that;609397]I did not "crumble like a six month old cookie," I displayed my theories and you simply ignored them because they were theories.[/quote]
You haven't displayed any theories, all you've done is come on here say "God does't exist so nyahhh

Nonsensical? Do you not believe in planets and your own Bible? Are you just too naive to understand what I've been saying?

We believe what the Bible says, planets were put in the sky for the telling of seasons as per Genesis.

Free lunch? No. I'm trying to have a mature, adult debate, while all you do is ridicule me. I love your "God exists because the Bible says so, but we're too scared to look at any other possibility" attitude, because it's not getting you anywhere with this. I've seen stats, and cities with less Christians are much happier. There's been surveys. Also, here, I'll return your immaturity:



There were are, it's about even.

Oh yes, mature use of smilies to mock our religion. Again, I would be surprised to find out your over 15.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hello.

Can you prove to me the existence of god then? The bible was made, sure. Can your prove god wrote it? Just because the bible says things, that doesn't prove anything. I could take somebody's story, and say I wrote it. Does it make it true? Not really.
It's impossible for anyone to prove God wrote the book, and his existence. You're blindly believing in a faith with no physical evidence to support it.

God did not write Bible. Everyone knows that. You do not see His picture on the jacket, no blurb telling you His History.
Are you really that out of touch that you thought He wrote the Bible?

Are you on drugs, son?

[Lisa H]

Re: Hello.

How naive of you.

How do you think predicting the weather works? How the fck do you think we have Google Maps? Google Earth? SATELLITES. GPSes? How do they work? SATELLITES. Open your eyes. It's all so blatant.

I have already discussed sattellites, GPS, Google Maps & Earth. They prove the earth is flat. To use your own words, "Open your eyes. It's all so blatant."

[Lisa H]

Re: Hello.

-I know exactly what I'm talking about, you are all just too stubborn to see my point of view and just revert to "Silly boy! God is reality!!! " and don't actually try to prove me wrong. Then you get other people to back up your worthless argument, saying "Oh you can't understand the bible because Satan is your father" or, "You're so naive, God most obviously created the universe."

-No one has proved me wrong yet, I made a derogatory remark because you do not understand any type of point I have been making about this, and you haven't even tried to. Like this. I wouldn't be having to explain all of this if you understood at all.

-No one has told me to act my age, they asked my age. Learn to read, really? That's not derogatory, that's pure worriedness from me to you since it's blatant that you can't understand context. I said it's irrelevant because what I said to him was rhetorical, and I wasn't purely asking his age.

-I have not been proven wrong. None of the points I've made have been proven wrong. The most I've been "proven wrong" ( if you didn't get it), is by you saying "OH THE BIBLE IS RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG THE BIBLE IS UTTER PROOF" though it could have been easily written without Jesus or God ever existing. It really could've.

If you know exactly what your talking about, then why do you insist on saying atheism has no rules, then say you there are rules you have to follow. Just admit I proved you wrong on this using your own words.

So you have to make yourself look better than me by making derogatory remarks about be. Is that how your atheists win arguments. Does it make you a bigger man.

Again you make more derogatory remarks about me by saying I cannot read and understand context. Really, if I could not read why am I able to read the Bible and this forum. Again you are proven wrong.

I proved you wrong about the bible being a reliable source. I have explained to you how it meets your "scientific multiple source" requirement.

All you seem to want to do is live in a world of theories. If I just sat around theorizing about how I would do something, then nothing will get done. How would you feel if your mother sat around all day theorizing about how to make your dinner. Come dinner time, she told you about her dinner theory, then went and watched television. Did you get any dinner?

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

No, you failed. You know it, I know it. Every person who reads this thread knows it and most importantly, God knows it. You said you could provide proof andf all you had were guesses, theories not a single fact. All you do is feebly attemot to spin your lies.

You look at the Earth and you see a flat (albeit with bumps/mountains) disk. You do not see a sphere.

No, Asphyxia and me agree with him completely. I'm afraid you sir, have failed. Maybe this whole community of naive Christians agree with you, sure. But if they didn't they'd be banned or isolated. That's how this forum rolls.

Atheists aren't "evil," "possessed by demons," they don't hate God or anything. Why else would we argue about this? We thought we could get some common sense out of this and see what you had to say about this. See if you could put up any defense other than "it's right because the bible says it is, or God is obviously real, all of this is stupid" and you don't even take the time to see our points of view. You're all so stubborn, you must be horrible people in real life, based on how judgmental you are. Would your God approve of this hate and judgement? I highly doubt that.

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

Do you have to see everything to believe in it? Can you see the air? can you see the warmth form the sun? Can you see electricity? NO, NO and no yet they are real . Can you see that God created everything ? Can you see His word? Can you see that we are right and you are wrong?
Yes, yes and yes.

Yes, you can see the air. See pictures of liquefied oxygen. Carbon. And in some temperatures you can see the carbon dioxide expel from your mouth. And with infrared goggles, you can see the warmth from the sun, yes. And you can ALSO see electricity. Maybe not flowing through water or metal, but you see lightning and static electricity, right? You can also measure volts.

So basically I just proved you wrong. Nice going.



No, you can't see that God created everything. I can create static electricity right now, with a balloon or a fuzzy blanket. He most certainly did not. Just because it's there, you have no proof God had anything to do with it. No, you cannot see his word. Sure, you can read and see the Bible, but again, that's just like a book like any other. No, Asphyxia, Moogitar and I can see that you are wrong and we are right.

GG.

[Moogitar (On Moderation)]

Re: Hello.

God did not write Bible. Everyone knows that. You do not see His picture on the jacket, no blurb telling you His History.
Are you really that out of touch that you thought He wrote the Bible?

Are you on drugs, son?

Haha, I am strongly against drugs. But I've heard people tell me god had wrote the bible. Why would an atheist study the bible anyhow?

[Lisa H]

Re: Hello.

Haha, I am strongly against drugs. But I've heard people tell me god had wrote the bible. Why would an atheist study the bible anyhow?

You might learn something and stop living a meaningless life.