[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Allah vs Jesus

From your use of English grammar I would say you have no knowledge of any classical languages, including classical Arabic, and therefore have no knowledge of the Koran.
Mufti A.H. Elias has both, and can also write English. He is unlikely to be a person whose opinions you would respect (even if you could understand them) but here they are anyway.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Allah vs Jesus

Mudhammer, why do you people strap bombs to yourselves and then blow yourselves up? I thought your false religion was all about peace. Why did you people steal Jet airplanes and then fly them into our buildings? Why did you murder 3000 peolpe? Are you related to Binladden?

[James Dewitt]

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Are all Mudsimes cowards? Why do you hide in buildings and shoot at Godly American soldiers? Real men stand in the open and fight. Why do you hide behind females and children? Why do Mooslims have sex with goats?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Your crusader Bush have been begging the protector of the 2 holy mosques for 8 months, begging for help and support!

Bush hasn't been in any position of power in the US for two years, dimwit.

Your Christian leaders keep begging us, and we keep taking jizyah money from you

Praised be Allah, we've been taking jizyah since the 6th century, it's a sign that Islam is the truth and everything else is hell.[/QUOTE]
That would explain why Saudi Muslims are destitute, uneducated, underfed, and live in a waterless, desert Hell on Earth.

And the minute Saudi oil runs out, which it will in the next couple of decades, Saudi Arabia's income will disappear. The monarchy will have no money to buy peace from the masses, and will be overrun by starving people who think the royals have food. There won't be any food, and the wealthy Christians will close the gates on God-mocking Muslim immigrants who come begging for assistance while insulting Jesus.

Why isn't Jesus smiting the victory mosque Allah's people are building in NY? everything happens is a sign of victory!

Let's see:

Park51 isn't a mosque, it's a community center open to the public that has a prayer room;

It doesn't exist yet, and in fact final design isn't completed much less permitting; and

The investors are considering relocating it.

Read the news much, dimwit? You obviously have access to the Internet, try using it for something other than pretending to be a Saudi Muslim.

Boring troll is boring.

[Muhammad bin Ahmad]

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Don't blame us for your shortcomings, in Iran they still stone. It looks like you have turned your back on Allie(piss be upon him). I suggest you go back and try for a theocracy.

When we came to Iran 15 centuries ago, we found them running around fire worshipping it, like those red Indians of yours. When we left them, nothing changed.


We might stopped stoning(hopefully not forever) but we definitely didn't go back to our old false rituals.

[Lisa H]

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When we came to Iran 15 centuries ago, we found them running around fire worshipping it, like those red Indians of yours. When we left them, nothing changed.


We might stopped stoning(hopefully not forever) but we definitely didn't go back to our old false rituals.

You do not even know your own celebrations. Looks like there is no place in paradise for you.

[James Dewitt]

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Why do Mooslims drink camel piss, that's nasty? Why do Mooslims eat camel dung, that's even nastier? Why do Mooslims have sexural relations with camels, that is just wrong? Why do Mooslims hate the entire world?

[Muhammad bin Ahmad]

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No, Jesus did all of those things. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created by Him and for Him. (NAS Colossians 1:16

How can Jesus create something before he was even born? Jesus never even claimed creating the world.

Well why does the Quran say this?

3:135 And those who, when they have committed Fahishah (illegal sexual intercourse etc.) or wronged themselves with evil, remember Allah and ask forgiveness for their sins—[dh-n-b] and none can forgive sins [dh-n-b] but Allah—and do not persist in what (wrong) they have done, while they know. (Hilali and Khan)

Because only Allah can forgive sins!

And why does the Hadith say Muhammad asked for repentance of his sins 70 times a day? How much sinning was he doing???

Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard Allah’s Apostle saying." By Allah! I ask for forgiveness from Allah and turn to Him in repentance more than seventy times a day." (Bukhari)

Asking for repentance is a virtue that pleases Allah, even if you did nothing wrong, Muhammad was guaranteed heaven, yet he prayed all night every night, when his wife asked him why is he wasting time since he already guaranteed heaven, he replayed with "I don't pray to go to heaven but to please and enjoy worshipping Allah"

Wrong, Jesus was always here. Allah was made up in the 7th century AD.

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8)

Alpha and Omega? What's that? A video game? I thought revelation was a science fiction book written by a Jew named Paul.

And Muhammad is a pedophile who likes raping babies.

A girl that reaches puberty, no matter what age, is not a baby, she become a grown woman, it's proven scientifically.

Allah is a false God who cannot even decide if he can have a son or not:

39:4 If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created.

6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?

You don't read what you cite, the first ayah says If Allah willed it, he didn't will it, unlike your trinity, Allah has a pride.

The second ayah is showing Allah's anger toward you, he's questioning you, how the creator would have a son? He will ask you the same question when you die!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Government soldiers and the Janjaweed (Sudanese nomads on the backs of horses/camels carrying gun/bayonet weapons; Janjaweed means “armed horseman” in Arabic) have been reported, also in Contemporary Review, to have gang-raped slaves (young boys and girls, especially) that were captured in the religious war of Sudan, and at their pleasing, kill them. That would make them violent fags, pedophile-rapists, and murderers. Under their own Islamic laws, these soldiers should have been put to death…but Sudan is full of oath-breakers and venomous liars, so why should they obey God?

Brother, this is something that has often bothered me. Gang rape.

No matter who is on the receiving end -- male or female -- how can it NOT be a homosexual act to want to put one's tallywhacker into another -- or several other -- men's seed for sexual purposes?

[Muhammad bin Ahmad]

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It appears that I know more about your Quran than you do.

I hope you have been following this;

"Salman reported that it was said to him: Your Apostle (may peace be upon him) teaches you about everything, even about excrement. He replied: Yes, he has forbidden us to face the Qibla at the time of excretion or urination, or cleansing with right hand or with less than three pebbles, or with dung or bone."

So how many pebbles do you use.

You fail to understand Islamic sharia, stones are only used if you have no water, and since toilet paper was invented, nobody needs to use stones.

[Meek and Humble]

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How can Jesus create something before he was even born? Jesus never even claimed creating the world.

John 8: 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Jesus says he already existed even before Abraham was alive, and Abraham was born around 2000 BC. "I Am" was the name of God revealed to Moses. Jesus is saying He is eternal and He is God.

Because only Allah can forgive sins!

Unless you're a prostitute?

Asking for repentance is a virtue that pleases Allah, even if you did nothing wrong, Muhammad was guaranteed heaven, yet he prayed all night every night, when his wife asked him why is he wasting time since he already guaranteed heaven, he replayed with "I don't pray to go to heaven but to please and enjoy worshipping Allah"

Alpha and Omega? What's that? A video game? I thought revelation was a science fiction book written by a Jew named Paul.

Oh dear, your ignorance is showing again. You don't even know that it was John, not Paul, that wrote Revelation? I am supposed to listen to you because...?

A girl that reaches puberty, no matter what age, is not a baby, she become a grown woman, it's proven scientifically.

Proven scientifically you say? Can you cite some research articles for me?

And I don't know many grown women who play with dolls...

You don't read what you cite, the first ayah says If Allah willed it, he didn't will it, unlike your trinity, Allah has a pride.

The second ayah is showing Allah's anger toward you, he's questioning you, how the creator would have a son? He will ask you the same question when you die!

Ok, so the first quote says Allah could have a son if he wanted. But the second says that it is impossible for the creator to have a son. Why would God be so offended by this, if it is indeed possible for him? It either is or isn't. Can Allah have a son?

[Muhammad bin Ahmad]

Re: Allah vs Jesus

From your use of English grammar I would say you have no knowledge of any classical languages, including classical Arabic, and therefore have no knowledge of the Koran.
Mufti A.H. Elias has both, and can also write English. He is unlikely to be a person whose opinions you would respect (even if you could understand them) but here they are anyway.

I know enough English to speak it, that Elias mufti of yours sounds like a westernized hypocrite, he's no different than Jews, I don't listen to any Elias, my teachers are real Muslims like Bin Taymiyah and Bin baz.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Allah vs Jesus

You fail to understand Islamic sharia, stones are only used if you have no water, and since toilet paper was invented, nobody needs to use stones.

Your modern corruption of the laws of God is offense. Allah never changes! Either clean with water or stones, blasphemer.

[Muhammad bin Ahmad]

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Mudhammer, why do you people strap bombs to yourselves and then blow yourselves up? I thought your false religion was all about peace. Why did you people steal Jet airplanes and then fly them into our buildings? Why did you murder 3000 peolpe? Are you related to Binladden?

Our religion is all about peace indeed, but once you cross the limits, an eye for an eye is what you shall get. Bin Laden is a false mujahid, real mujahideen like Bin Khattab don't murder Muslims, they only kill crusaders and commies, he's also my cousin!

[Bogdana Alkeav]

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Hey Muhammad. I'm fascinated by the Muslim religion, really. I wonder, could you answer these questions for me?

Muslims claim, that a proof the Koran was from God, is that it contains scientifically accurate information about Embryology before man discovered it for himself. However, all the information in the Koran regarding Embryology is copied from three sources, 1. A Greek doctor named Galen, who lived of 150 AD. 2. A Jewish doctor named Samuel ha-Yehudi who lived 150 AD. 3. the Greek father of medicine Hippocrates who lived 400 BC. My question is: in light of the fact that all the information contained in the Koran was already in print by these three doctors, will you retract the argument on Embryology? If not, will you supply one detail revealed in the Koran about Embryology, that was not already revealed or that was new?

Does the wine in heaven contain alcohol? What is the alcohol percentage? I might become interested in Islam after all.

When exactly do you believe that the Bible was corrupted and by whom? This question is important because it is actually quite easy to demonstrate to a Muslim that when Muhammad recited the Qur'an, he made clear statements which show that he did not believe that the Bible was corrupt at that time. The Qur'an calls on Christians to adhere to the Scriptures that they possessed. There are also verses in the Qur'an which state that John the Baptist and Jesus were taught the Torah by Allah. If this is the case, then the Torah was still intact (according to the Qur'an) during the first century. Add to this the fact that we have in our possession the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint which predate John and Jesus' birth by some 200 years. Thus it is easy to demonstrate (for anyone who is willing to examine the facts) that according to the Islamic worldview and the manuscript evidence, it is impossible for the Bible to have been corrupted. The logical questions go on and on here. See:
www.answering-islam.org/Bible/multi.html
www.answering-islam.org/Bible/Text/wijngaards.html
www.answering-islam.org/Bible/jrwhy.html


The Qur'an says "To those who believe and do deeds of righteousness hath Allah promised forgiveness and a great reward" (Surah 5:9).

1. Question: Are you doing enough good deeds to receive salvation on the Day of Judgment?
2. Question: Are you doing all you can or are you relaxing in your dedication to Allah?