[Levi Jones]

Re: oh....

Your a fool! Foolish and unlearned. Whether I laugh or rage, at you. I'll have no rest. I don't care what you think. I believe the Bible. Goodbye!

Be careful, friend. You are in danger of hell fire with this statement.

Matthew 5:22 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

You believe what you want to out of the Bible and disregard that which is inconvenient, quod erat demonstrandum.

Whether you choose to hang around and learn something is completely up to you.

[handmaiden]

Re: oh....

Your a fool! Foolish and unlearned. Whether I laugh or rage, at you. I'll have no rest. I don't care what you think. I believe the Bible. Goodbye!

And I believe that you believe the Bible. You just don't want to know all of it. You want what you want. And you use the Bible to back you up. Just like just about every Bible believer that I ever encountered before I came here.

You have so much more in common with people who don't believe in the Bible than you realize. They too, want what they want. They pull together their arguments and rationalizations and support wherever they can find it. Some of what they say seems reasonable, some does not. But they are very sure that they are right. And quick to call others fools when someone disagrees with them.

Me, I faced up to the hard truths of the Bible long ago. I stopped questioning why God would personally send a bear to rip apart some little children just for teasing someone about their appearance. I also searched my heart and admitted that I wished God would send a large creature to rip apart the many people who have rejected and mocked me in the past.

I stopped questioning how an all-knowing God could overlook the fact that sometimes rapists cover their victim's mouths and then command, not allow, but command that a girl who didn't cry for help during a rape be found culpable to any degree. As one fine, Christian man struggled to explain those verses to me, maybe God meant it as a sort of warning or example.

Well, that was a weak explaination. What really matters when you have faith in an all-knowing God is not to question His commands. And when you read something that sort of sits uncomfortablely with you, you don't keep flipping pages until you find something that gives you a different answer that does feel comfortable. You obey God. You keep His commands. You worship Him when reason and rationality hints otherwise.

This is what Abraham did. I know very few people alive on this earth today who would obey God with such unquestioning faith.

Most of the Bible believers of my acquaintance manage to shut out God's voice and ignore His commands when they really, really want something. They come up with fascinating rationalizations when in pursuit of their desires. Occasionally, after things have run their course, they will then repent and accept God's forgiveness. Then, they will loudly condemn anyone who makes the same choices and insist that it is their "love" for others and Christ which compells them to prevent others from making the same mistakes.

At least, that's how most of them justified their abortions.

Somberly Yours,

Handmaiden

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: oh....

Judge not, lest ye be judged is one of the most often taken out of context passages in the entire Bible. If you continue reading Matthew 7, it is speaking about hypocritical judgment.

Christians are free to judge as long it is not hypocritically or merely by appearances.

Yes, I know this. What is right and what is wrong. You can judge if someone is a theif, but you can't judge their worth in the eyes of God. Is what I am saying.

We can look at God's Word, and what He says He will do with those who disobey Him (throw them in the incinerator). Do you throw things you value into the incinerator?

No, you throw garbage into the incinerator.

God goes one step further. He throws them into the incinerator, but forces them to live forever in that incinerator, so they may endure an eternity of agony.

Who do you know that you value that you would do that to?

Luke 14 26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

"Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murder hath no eternal life abiding in him."

Yes, your Scripture says something different than mine. He was talking about compared to the love we have for God.

Where did He say that? You are interpreting again.

You said:
Jesus calls someone outside of His own race a dog. Yeah, He heals her daughter, but only after she begs.

Yes, but you are not a Jew! Your a Gentile!

How do you know what I am?

My mother's mother was a Jew, thank you very much for dredging THAT heartache up again. (And yes, under Jewish law, that makes me a Jew.)

Yes I did. I explained to you that it was within the eyes of God. Paul speaks often on the differences in status within this lifetime.

Women aren't allowed to speak. Slaves obey your masters.. etc.

Only in the church and, woman can come equally to the throne of God, just like men.

Women are told to remain silent in the church. In the church, women are NOT equal to men. Only in Heaven are women equal to men in their worth as God's eternal servants.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us

Again, that's prior to salvation. John goes on to write in the exact same epistle that we are sin free and blood bought.

And that those who are saved cannot sin, and that those who sin have shown that they are not saved.

Your a fool! Foolish and unlearned. Whether I laugh or rage, at you. I'll have no rest. I don't care what you think. I believe the Bible. Goodbye!

You will believe the dribs and drabs that make you feel good, and that make you believe that "nice people" and sinners and dogs and kitty-cats will all be joining True Christians(tm) in Heaven.

You want to believe that you can keep on disobeying any of God's 600+ COMMANDS -- not requests, not suggestions, but COMMANDS -- that you don't like, and then you can say, "Gee, Jesus, I'm sorry, I won't do that again until next time" and still get into Heaven!

The Bible tells me what Jesus will say to people like you.

Matthew 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: oh....

Wow, that's quite the wall of text, I'll have to go through it bit by bit, and may end up splitting it. I'm not sure how big our postings are allowed to be.

Okay, here are my Scriptual problems with you! (some...)

Yes, we know that you have problems with the scripture. I just wish you would read what we are trying to tell you instead of pushing your fuzzy bunny stuff and telling us to ignore parts of the Bible.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Firstly it is not Biblical to call someone "unsaved *trash*".

It isn't? Would you prefer to be called an unsaved dog? That's what Jesus did.

Mark 7:27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.

Have you noticed the number of trolls that we get on this board? Although I understand that you are a confused Christian who has been spoon fed the soft stuff and doesn't truly understand what the "FEAR OF GOD" truly means, look at how many garbage posts we get on here. We bang our heads against walls trying to get through to them, but most are too far gone.

"And the servant of the lord must not strive; but be gentle to all men, apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to acknowledging the truth:" II Timothy 2:24-25

That's not gentle, or meek, and it causes strife.

We tried the meek approach, face it, it just doesn't work with this hip "in your face" generation. No we have to get as much in their face as MTV and video games.

I don't like how you insult people who don't agree with you.

We rebuke, we don't insult.

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

But we do love our enemies, that's why we rebuke them. Again I ask, if you love a child, would you let him walk out into traffic? Or would you grab him harshly? Again, we must rebuke sinners.
2nd Timothy 4:1-5 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

It is also unwise:
"A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger." Proverbs 15:1

Unfortunately you have to match the tone of your audience. I am sorry that you find God's word so disturbing that you would consider it grievous.

Galatians. 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

You're disobeying Jesus, by cursing me. Somebody also said that I hate baby Jesus.

1. Jesus isn't a baby. He was in his early thirties when He died on the cross.
2. The Bible says what it means to love Jesus. "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15 To those of you who would insult me: I do keep Jesus' commandments, not that you would know that. I just don't believe, that these are Jesus' commandments; I believe you made them up. I came on here looking to keep His commandments, and inquire further. But all I seen people doing on here was insulting other people, who questioned that they were the ultimate authority on the matter. My Dad always told me, that if you cannot or not are allowed to even listen to something that contradicts what you believe, then what you believe is not worth believing in. The truth is not like that, it can stand all attacks. Jesus can stand up to all attacks because He is the truth. (the way, and the life, John 14:6) Why would I come to you then?

So according to you, because Jesus died in his early 30's he's stuck at that age? Why do you put such limitations on God? As for the baby Jesus, you're the one that said we should soften up, well isn't a "baby Jesus" a lot softer than a Man coming back on a horse with a sword sticking out of his mouth? Is that the Jesus we should present to the world?

Revelation 19:11-16 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

As for keeping the commandments, I don't see how that can mean anything else other than following ALL of the rules in the Bible. My wife shows that she loves me by following my rules, why would loving God be any different.

I

cannot believe that you think that Jesus' precious blood is somehow not pure enough that it couldn't save an Ethiopian, or someone from Denmark. You are insulting my Lord! That they could do something so wrong, or be so evil that Jesus righteousness couldn't exceed it! That is blasphemy! Blasphemy makes me sick!

You're not reading our posts are you. We never said that they couldn't be saved, we even have Negro members of our church and Dutch members on our board. My wife is working very hard on our Negro kennel manager to bring him into the folds of God. It's just unlikely that a Negro or a Denmarkian will be saved because their culture/society is so sinful that in order to become saved they must walk away from everything they grew up believing.

Also the statement that I don't love Him is just foolish. To say it you must believe that I have some love toward Him, because it wouldn't matter to someone who was say...a self-proclaimed satanist or something. It would be like me saying, "You don't love satan!" Obviously, that wouldn't bother you. Actually, it doesn't bother me either that you say I don't love Jesus, because it is not up to you to decide. And your bearing false witness against me, which is one of the ten commandments.

Yet you're telling us that we don't love Jesus, why does it not bother us? Because we know it's not true and that we are right with the LORD. Also, why would we love Satan? Do you love Satan? Was that a Freudian slip? We're also not bearing false witness against you, we are trying to point you onto the narrow path into heaven.

An Ethiopian was saved In The Bible!


"And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? And he said, How can I, exept some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come and sit with him. The place of the scripture which he read was this, HE WAS LED AS A SHEEP TO THE SLAUGHTER; AND LIKE A LAMB DUMB BEFORE HIS SHEARER, SO OPENED HE NOT HIS MOUTH: IN HIS HUMILIATION HIS JUDGEMENT WAS TAKEN AWAY: AND WHO SHALL DECLARE HIS GENERATION? FOR HIS LIFE IS TAKEN FROM THE EARTH. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? Then Philip open his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And they went on their way, and came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Acts 8 27-38
The Holy Spirit guided Philip to this man, an Ethiopian and He was saved.

What is your obsession with Ethiopia?

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 Every kid in Sunday school believed that if you just believed on Jesus that you would be Saved, so that is a child's interpretation of the Scripture. It doesn't say anything about your race.

Again with the race card. Really, give it a rest, we're not racists. There was even a Nigerian kicking around here a couple of months ago, not sure why he left.

Oh, but you may notice that that quote says that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, The issue is getting people to believe. Shall we continue with what that chapter says?

John 3:17-21 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God
So again, you cannot sin and be a part of God. Yet you fluffy bunny Christians tell drug dealers that it's okay to hook kids as long as they sit in a pew every Sunday. Twice Jesus told people to go and sin no more, that's part of what being saved means!

John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Now why would Jesus tell two different people to go and sin no more if he didn't mean it.

"AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT WHOSOEVER SHALLL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED." Acts 2:21 Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be Saved. It doesn't say except those who are black or are from Denmark... None of the children draw that away from it. I don't know of where the Bible specifically mentions that. I know that it does have alot to say about only marrying your own race...

Again, you're reading stuff into what we are saying. We have True Christian(TM) members from Denmark, would we allow that if we didn't think they could be saved? We have Negro members, would we allow that if we didn't think they could be saved? Just because a culture is damned, doesn't mean that every single person is.

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will no wise cast out." John 6:37

Yes, all that the Father giveth me, not everyone in the world, not everyone who thinks that a prayer for forgiveness is nothing more than a get out of Hell free card, you have to feel it in your soul for the words to mean something.

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." Mark 16:15 It doesn't say, "...save Denmark. I hate Denmark, so you guys make sure you spit on people who are from Denmark." The Bible doesn't mention Denmark. It says preach the gospel to all of the world to every living creature.

Again, you're beating a dead horse.

"For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:11 Mmmm?

No respecter of persons, except women should submit to their husbands and fathers, and slaves should submit to their masters. You seem to be incapable of understanding that.

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Colossians 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;

Jesus never called anyone a "slut". Even when He ran into what you would call one.

Would you prefer that we used the more Biblical term "whore"?

Biblical Examples:

In John 4:13-27

"Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.
The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly. The woman said unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?"

She had 5 husbands, exactly what happened to those husbands? Was she a widow 4 times? Was she a concubine to #5? Doesn't exactly explain that, does it. Anyway, I don't get what you're trying to say with this scripture.

More explicit in John 8:1-11:

"Jesus went unto the mouunt of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultry; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the groudn. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She saith, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemnt thee: go, and sin no more." Did Jesus condemn her? No. What did He do? Tell her to go and sin no more.

Yes, you seem to be having a problem with the "go and sin no more" aren't you. What do you think Jesus (who could read her heart btw) would have done if she was brought before him a week later for the same sin?

It also says in Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of
the glory of God;" It says, all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (*ALL*)

Again, that is before you are saved, are you not reading any of the responses? Or are you just going to keep parroting your memorized out of context scripture without bothering to understand?

1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

From only 3 chapters ahead of your quote
Romans 6:6-8 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

I really don't understand why you are having an issue with this, unless of course you want to live in depravity and hope for the good old death bed conversion.

I have ought to say with you those who say Christians are better than other people: those of you that glory in yourself and not in God. I also have ought to say to persuade you of thinking sinners are trash.

So you think sinners are okay? You think child molesters should be patted on the head and left to their ways, because "that's the way God made them"? Well good for you, me, I'll keep my children safe.

1st Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

I John 1:7-10, "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

Find me one True Christian(TM) on here that says they have "never sinned". What we tell you is that we no longer sin. We live a righteous life as we are commanded to by the Word of God.

David said, in Psalm 143:2, "And enter not into judgement with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified."

Isaiah 64:6: "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind have taken us away."

Job 25:5-6 "Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea the stars are not pure in his sight. How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?"

"For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:11

Well now you're basically just ranting, since David, Isaiah, and Job were not covered in the blood of the Lamb.

I Corinthians 1:27-30 "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things that are mighty; And the base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are nt, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sactification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He THAT GLORIETH, LET HIM GLORY IN THE LORD."

What do you think we are trying to do here? We are trying to Glorify God! Not that we get a lot of time for it.

Also the Bible says that Jesus did not come to save the righteous, but sinners! It says so in the Bible. Also, He ate with sinners and not with the Jewish religious leaders known as Pharisess!

Matthew 9:10-13 "And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Maser with publicans and sinners? But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I WILL HAVE MERCY, AND NOT SACRIFICE: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

He ate with people who were willing to listen to his message. Do you not realize what he said about those who disregarded his message?

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Does that sound like Jesus was "cool with sin"?

Jesus didn't damn "unsaved trash" to Hell. He left His Heavenly throne and gave up his life, for not the righteous, but sinners!

Yes, yes he does damn unsaved trash to hell. Really, you think that meth heads are getting into heaven, but True Christians(TM) are going to Hell? What kind of screwed up church do you belong to.

And some of you think genecide is all right. But Jesus commanded us to:

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

Dealt with above, you're just rambling now.

One of the Ten Commandments is "...Thou Shalt Not Kill..."

However, God did tell people to kill people for certain things. Adultery, is one of them. But Jesus didn't condemn the adulteress in John 8:1-11 Scripture doesn't contradict! God also told Israel to kill alot of people in the surrounding countries, when they went to possess the promise land in the Old Testament. But the Bible tells us not to kill. You either believe that the Scripture contradicts itself, or that there is an explaination. They *were* at war. We *are* at war also. We *are not* the kingdom of Israel. We *are* the Kingdom of God. Who is *our* enemy? God tells us, in Ephesians 6:12, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Thus, we don't wrestle with flesh and blood, but against the Devil, and his devils. Also, if adulterers, were to be stoned, why then didn't Jesus stone her? I always told that they were in the Age of the Law and when Jesus came, we entered the Age of Mercy and Grace, and that God deals with people differently now. "...But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I WILL HAVE MERCY, AND NOT SACRIFICE:..." I was told things are done differently now than in the Old Testament. Do we still sacrifice animals? Or was Jesus' sacrifice enough? I surely, hope so because no flesh is justified in His sight.

So because Jesus didn't stone one adulteress (because the stoners were as sinful as she was) that means adultery is okay? The reason he didn't stone her was because he was MAKING A POINT!

I'll let someone else deal with the rest, I have to go.