[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Intro

I said that there is no contemporary accounts of his "tricks" and you have still to show any evidence of any, all you have mentioned so far are accounts of the myths of a minor cult written at least 60 years after the events where meant to have happened by people who where not there. If someone was to cast demons into 2000 suicidal pigs (Mark 5) would that not have had some disastrous consequences for innocent third parties leading to some record of it?

As Rev. Rodimer pointed out, it was due to a conspiracy by Rome to suppress information about it. Did you forget about the sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD?

If it should be quite natural to believe in the most fantastic, illogical and unsubstantiated claims unless there was evidence to the contrary. If this stance had any viability, why stop at Jesus? Why not believe in Zeus, leprechauns and the tooth fairy?

Because, much like your pasta-demon, they don't exist.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I said that there is no contemporary accounts of his "tricks" and you have still to show any evidence of any, all you have mentioned so far are accounts of the myths of a minor cult written at least 60 years after the events where meant to have happened by people who where not there. If someone was to cast demons into 2000 suicidal pigs (Mark 5) would that not have had some disastrous consequences for innocent third parties leading to some record of it?

If it should be quite natural to believe in the most fantastic, illogical and unsubstantiated claims unless there was evidence to the contrary. If this stance had any viability, why stop at Jesus? Why not believe in Zeus, leprechauns and the tooth fairy?

Pasta boy, I'm sure you will agree that Alexander the Great was an incredible leader who accomplished many great things, right?

Hmmm.

There are many ancient sources on the career of the Macedonian conqueror Alexander the Great: the Library of world history of Diodorus of Sicily, Quintus Curtius Rufus' History of Alexander the Great of Macedonia, a Life of Alexander by Plutarch of Chaeronea and the Anabasis by Arrian of Nicomedia are the best-known. All these authors lived more than three centuries after the events they described, but they used older, nearly contemporary sources, that are now lost.

Yep. The authors describing Alexander the Great's life wrote at least 300 years later, and the sources they used also weren't contemporary to Alexander's life.

So . . . How do you know Alexander the Great even existed?

[Jo Freddie]

Re: Intro

Pasta boy, I'm sure you will agree that Alexander the Great was an incredible leader who accomplished many great things, right?

Hmmm.



Yep. The authors describing Alexander the Great's life wrote at least 300 years later, and the sources they used also weren't contemporary to Alexander's life.

So . . . How do you know Alexander the Great even existed?

Scroll down the page you quoted and read the section "A contemporary source: the Astronomical diary"

[Jo Freddie]

Re: Intro

As Rev. Rodimer pointed out, it was due to a conspiracy by Rome to suppress information about it. Did you forget about the sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD?

Which would have destroyed Jewish records, not Roman ones.
Would you like some more

to clutch at?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Intro

Which would have destroyed Jewish records, not Roman ones.
Would you like some more

to clutch at?

Please, do show us the extensive Roman records from Jerusalem at that time.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Intro

Scroll down the page you quoted and read the section "A contemporary source: the Astronomical diary"

The astronomical diaries only offer a couple of references to Alexander. What about all the other stories of his complete life?

[Jo Freddie]

Re: Intro

The astronomical diaries only offer a couple of references to Alexander. What about all the other stories of his complete life?

They are contemporary records that show he existed, so far nothing has been cited that is a contemporary record to show the existence of Jesus, remember this topic when down this path with

Contrary to what you may think, I believe that Jesus was a real person, I believe that he did great things, perhaps even miracles, but I do not believe that he was the son of God or part of the Holy Trinity.

It is my contention that there is nothing to show he was a real person.

[landoverlover]

Re: Intro

I said that there is no contemporary accounts of his "tricks" and you have still to show any evidence of any, all you have mentioned so far are accounts of the myths of a minor cult written at least 60 years after the events where meant to have happened by people who where not there. If someone was to cast demons into 2000 suicidal pigs (Mark 5) would that not have had some disastrous consequences for innocent third parties leading to some record of it?

If it should be quite natural to believe in the most fantastic, illogical and unsubstantiated claims unless there was evidence to the contrary. If this stance had any viability, why stop at Jesus? Why not believe in Zeus, leprechauns and the tooth fairy?

I think this is the point in the pasta boy-meets-repentant girl story when they get a room....

[Jo Freddie]

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I think this is the point in the pasta boy-meets-repentant girl story when they get a room....